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*** "Desolation Row" is child's play compared to "Changing of The Guards", "Brownsville Girl" and "Highlands", all written and recorded long after Dylan's most reputedly mind-screwy era.
* [[Leonard Cohen]]'s early songs (late 60's early 70's) top Dylan's by far!
** There have been many analyses of this classic song. One of the best is one of the earliest, [https://web.archive.org/web/20100620122810/http://sparkbbs.dreamwiz.com/cgi-bin/rbbsview.cgi?section=WAREHOUSE&start=3&pos=288 by Bob Dearborn]. One of my favorites is the very Mind-Screw-friendly site [httphttps://wwwweb.archive.org/web/20140110040638/http://imissamericanpie.com/ IMISSAMERICANPIE.COM].
* The [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqnlIR3AG7g music video] for Neo-Prog group IQ's ''Drive On'' is more than a bit odd...
** The one for ''[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGs8HUMow74&feature=related Promises (As The Years Go By)]'' is probably weirder...
* Many people have put forth their theories on The Eagles' "Hotel California," particularly regarding "the beast" that the residents just can't kill. Others just figure it's about a guy who does a bunch of drugs in a cheap hotel.
* [[Queen]]'s "Bohemian Rhapsody". Especially the part right after the guitar solo.
** Making a mockery of their boast (on the earlier [[L PsLPs]]) "No Synthesizers", Queen were notorious for employing over-the-top studio trickery. The vocal effects were achieved by using an astonishing number of overdubs, often well over 100. For each little snippet, not the entire "operatic" passage.
** "39" from the same album is also like this (they set off in '39, travelled for a ''year'', and ''returned'' in '39 -- [[Writers Cannot Do Math|WTF?!?!]]), unless one realises that {{spoiler|this is a [[Filk Song]], which like many folk songs is an ''allegory'' about a voyage (this one being a space voyage, so one year of ship time is 100 years of Earth time)}}. Watching the video on the DVD version of the album makes it suddenly make sense.
* ''[[Nightwish (Music)|Nightwish]]''. What a grand old time it is to figure out what half of the lyrics are saying, especially since half of them are of [[Word Salad Title|word salad]] quality. Stargazers, The Poet and the Pendulum, and Ghost Love Score are all huge mind screws, especially the second one with all of its [[Mood Whiplash]].
** Most of their other songs have quite straightforward lyrics, though.
* Most of the output of [[They Might Be Giants]] falls into this territory. Especially ''Particle Man'' and ''Doctor Worm''.
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*** Enough to keep Mr, Lucassen afloat, at least. It's [[Crowning Music of Awesome|damn good music]].
* The Dropkick Murphys (!) song "State of Massachusetts" seems like a straightforward song about a single mother, until you pick up on the clues (the title being the most obvious) that the whole thing is to be taken as an allegory, at which point it becomes an incomprehensible meditation on the SJC, the academic élite, the "culture wars," television's influence on society, and Boston's place in history.
* [[David Bowie]]'s 1995 concept album ''1. Outside'' is a story told in anachronic order of a 25-year-long investigation into illegal trade in body parts harvested in ritual murders centered in [["London, England" Syndrome|Oxford (NJ) and London (OT)]], which also seems to be a metaphor for Bowie's own career, including an apparent disco/industrial elegy to Major Tom. The fact that it was planned as part of a [[Aborted Arc|scrapped 5-part cycle]] does ''not'' help.
** Let's not forget "Life on Mars", which has been described as "a cross between a Broadway musical and a Salvador Dali painting." A girl leaves her house as her parents fight, goes to the movies, and then there's something about fighting sailors, corrupt cops, and Mickey Mouse.
** Heck, a lot of David Bowie is like this, and that's not even counting ''[[Labyrinth]]''.
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** Special mention to African Night Fight which has an entirely new sound and parts of it are sung in a Kenyan dialect and bizarre lyrics describing some kind of fight and stuff about a baby being born silent and hardships.
** [[Did You Just Romance Cthulhu?|"Width Of A Circle".]]
* The music video for [[Genesis (Musicband)|Genesis]]'s "Land of Confusion", which involves puppet-version of the band, as well as [[Our Presidents Are Different|the Reagans]], a [[Body Horror|swamp with heads instead of plants]], and [[I'm a Humanitarian|the keyboardist using his own tongue as a hot dog bun]].
** ''[[Concept Album|The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway]]'', anyone?
** A lot of the mind-screwiest stuff was never recorded (or sung). In the early days, the arrangements and effects were quite complicated and the equipment was fairly primitive, so there would often be long breaks between numbers at concerts while the technicians frantically rejigged the equipment for the next song. Peter Gabriel took to filling these gaps with mind-screwy narrative pieces which he usually made up on the spot. Some of them have been transcribed on the sleeves of early live albums and literature. ''The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway'' is basically an extended one of these, with some of the scenes set to music.
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* [[The Beatles]]: "Number nine, number nine, number nine, number nine..."
** Which is nothing compared to what John Lennon said about the song later:
{{quote| '''John:''' I thought I was painting in sound a picture of revolution, but I made a mistake, you know. The mistake was that it was antirevolution.}}
** Also, "I am the Walrus." Reportedly, John Lennon commented, "Let's see the fuckers figure that one out," after recording it.
** All of these have the disadvantage that they [[The Walrus Was Paul|don't really give a sense of expecting to make sense]]...unlike "Eleanor Rigby," probably their most effective [[Mind Screw]].
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** All three tracks on ''Close to the Edge'' are like this: they seem to make sense, but actually don't. Although "And You And I" could be interpreted as being based on [[Isaac Asimov|the Foundation trilogy]].
** Jon Anderson, frontman of Yes's collaboration with Vangelis produced ''The Friends Of Mr. Cairo''. 12 minutes of nothing but [[Mind Screw|Minds Screw]]
*** It's rather [[Exactly What It Says Onon the Tin]]. The song is a homage to the classic 1930's and 1940's movies, and the lyrics are either quotes or references from them. The title directly refers to [[The Maltese Falcon]]; the sampled dialogues are, among others, from [[The Thief Of Baghdad]]; the song ends with a sound of an old movie projector shutting down; and at one point, Anderson references Clark Gable, (Douglas) Fairbanks and Maureen O'Sullivan by name.
* Devin Townsend, a Canadian musician, has distilled this into the purest form possible with his album "Ziltoid the Omniscient". Beginning as a somewhat lighthearted tale of the titular Ziltoid invading Earth demanding coffee, it ends with {{spoiler|him questioning the state of the universe, the creator revealing that they're all 'just puppets' and it finally turning out that it's all a daydream in the mind of a coffee shop employee}}. Not even mentioning that it tends to shift from speedy metal to weirdly dissonant ambient music seemingly at random, and EVERY SINGLE VOICE on the album is the same man singing, up to and including whole choral arrangements of just his voice. {{spoiler|Oh, and he made the puppets he mentions in the story. In fact, THAT'S THE INSPIRATION FOR THE WHOLE THING.}}
** According to [[Word of God]], it's supposed to symbolize how the [[Misaimed Fandom|fandom misinterprets]] the messages of his songs.
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** "Black Flame", where the only thing that's certain is that the singer has been somehow taken over by a 'black flame' that now has full control of her, feeds off her, and apparently hurts. There's a lot of weird imagery of being mouth sounds "I am words, I am speaking", "I'm just a sigh, just a crying" and in the bridge the singer is talking to someone as though she is inside them, while still telling them to try and escape.
** "Running Hard", where someone just seems to be slipping through a world of weirdo nightmare images and metaphors, and the more they try to escape or find reality, the freakier it gets.
* [[Dream Theater (Music)|Dream Theater]]'s ''Scenes From A Memory: Metropolis Part 2'' Album definitely has some mind screwing going on. It tells the story of Nicholas, who has visions of a girl. He visits a hypnoterapists and under his guidance realises that he is just a reincarnation of Victoria, a girl that was murdered by The Miracle, one of her two lovers, the other one being The Sleeper (and The Miracle and The Sleeper are brothers, too!). However, in the last song on the CD Nicholas is {{spoiler|shot by the hypnotherapist, who, in turn, is actually a reincarnation of The Miracle.}}
** On the topic of DT, there's also the video for "Forsaken." [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XcWeB5oohY See for yourself.]
* A number of [[The Birthday Massacre]] videos fit this trope. For example, "[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBmDgtJyc1U Blue]" and "[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SREZ-ggSDjM Looking Glass]."
* I don't know if this would count, but perhaps [[Rammstein (Music)|Rammstein]]'s music video for "Mutter". Features Till Lindemann, with hair and fully dressed, going on a seemingly very long journey, on a rowboat through a swamp, in order to bring a bowl of drinking water to another Till Lindemann, bald and naked, living in concrete hole in the ground. The song is anti-cloning/genetic engineering, so it's possible that the bald/naked Till could be a clone, being kept in a hole and perhaps only to be used to harvest its organs in case clothed/hairy Till needs them. {{spoiler|Or the mind screw interpretation could be that the bald/naked Till is the REAL Till, and the clothed one is the clone who has taken his place as Doppelganger, but still retains some guilt, and keeps his true self safe and alive.}}
* Just try to figure out the plot of any [[Coheed and Cambria]] song without the comics. Especially anything from Second Stage Turbine Blade or Good Apollo, I'm Burning Star IV, Part one. Go on, I'll wait.
** Some of their songs are fairly comprehensible on their own, but others are just bizarre. Like ''Ten Speed (Of God's Blood and Burial)'', which is about a possessed, talking bicycle. For example.
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** In both lyrical ''and'' musical terms, any of their collaborations with horror author [[Thomas Ligotti]], especially ''I Have A Special Plan For This World''.
* On a related note, the particular strain of [[Industrial|Post-Industrial Music]] that Current 93 emerged from is known for its mind-screwiness, with frequent collaborators Nurse With Wound and Coil quite often taking the cake.
* [[Phil Ochs]] was known as a protest singer who dealt with fairly straightforward subjects (anti-Vietnam War, workers' movement, civil rights, etc.) so his eight-and-a-half minute long allegory of ultimate mindfuckery known as "Crucifixion" [[What Do You Mean It Wasn't Made Onon Drugs?|seems even more crazy in comparision.]]
** He named one of his relatively-later albums ''Rehearsals for Retirement''; it had [[Creator Breakdown|his own gravestone]] as the cover photo.
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=In3fgGPADAI It must have been the evil sausage!]
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* [[The Melvins]]! How could they not have been mentioned yet? Many, many songs by them are just plain odd. Their whole style is pretty bizarre.
* The lyrics to "the Riddle" themselves are quite unclear about what they are supposed to mean, but then watch [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ehHOwmQRxU the music video to them and try to understand what's going on].
** [httphttps://web.archive.org/web/20050305171404/http://www.nikkershaw.net/theriddle.shtml Nik Kershaw himself confirmed it didn't mean anything]
* The infamous [[Vocaloid]] PV ''Tower of Sunz''. Just try to explain [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6P7uUlQOENA this] load of bull honkey. ''You can't.''
** Anything by the Vocaloid producer Hachi is almost certain to [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSCnsTGuroM mess] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEeb9rOKn3Y with] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JGaQ3g8WU4 your] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZQ2tvqLgok head]. Not to menton their videos, also made by him.
* If you start analyzing "[[Journey (Musicband)|Don't Stop Belivin']]" instead of [[Ear Worm|singing it]] ([[Crowd Song|along with everyone else around]]), you'll notice that the lyrics are a bunch of stories that may not have any connection.
** The stories are related by a theme running through the stories. The theme is that all humans search for love in any way they can. The song further exhorts us, "Don't Stop Believin'" in our chance at finding love.
* Dan Deacon's [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1cA1E_BN5c Lion with a Shark's Head].
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* Shortly before their first hiatus in March 1980, post-punk band [[Wire]] became especially fond of doing this to their audiences when playing live. See [[True Art Is Incomprehensible]] for details.
* The videos to 'The Riddle' and 'Bla Bla Bla', both by Gigi D'Agostino.
* [[Lady Gaga]] increasingly seems to be aiming for this. The best examples being her music videos for Alejandro and Born This Way.
* ''Soundtracks for the Blind'' by [[Swans]]. This double-CD behemoth basically [[Trope Codifier|codified]] the [[Post Rock]] genre [[Unbuilt Trope|before there was a "Post Rock" genre to codify]]. It is also probably one of the greatest continuous Mind Screws in the history of rock music, as well as being a nigh-bottomless well of High Octane Nightmare Fuel. It is best explained as being a kind of [[Exactly What It Says Onon the Tin|soundtrack to an imaginary movie]]. A very long, very weird movie. Directed by [[David Lynch]].
* Finger Eleven's 'One Thing' music video. That is all.
* Much of the Bonzo Dog Doo-Dah Band's work; particularly "My Pink Half of the Drainpipe" and "Rhinocratic Oaths" which feature extended spoken sections which require several listenings to even begin to visualize, let alone understand.
* [["Weird Al" Yankovic]]'s "[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05av9iJvgiQ Everything You Know Is Wrong]", among others.
* Many of the works of modern classical composer Giacinto Scelsi can be just a tiny bit confusing. Take "Uaxuctum," a piece based on the legend of a Mayan city that ritually destroyed itself. His music has been described as "all transition."
* The music video (not the song) for [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-diB65scQU Bobby McFerrin´s Don´t Worry, Be Happy].
* Everything [[New Kingdom (Music)|New Kingdom]] ever recorded.
* Divine Styler's second album, ''Spiral Walls Containing Autumns of Light'' makes roughly as much sense as the title would imply. Musically it's a mixture of hip-hop, jam band like improv sessions, funk, and spoken word. Lyrically it makes very little sense, Styler's bizarre delivery (on this album, anyway) doesn't help.
* Some of the music videos for [[Poets of the Fall (Music)|Poets of the Fall]] are really weird, but the best example has to be "[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKk1u5RMTn4 Carnival of Rust]", where a woman with a gas mask and a lollipop visits a dilapidated [[Circus of Fear|Carnival of Fear]].
* Kyary Pamyu Pamyu, while only debuting in late 2011, is certainly in this section. Her first song is PONPONPON (meaning "clap clap clap") has [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzC4hFK5P3g this] video, though the [http://superhappyawesome.wordpress.com/2011/07/21/hengao-pon-pon-pon-lyrics-and-a-chance-to-meet-kyary-pamyu-pamyu/ lyrics] make slightly more sense.
** Her second song was called "Tsukema Tsukeru" which is about putting on false eyelashes. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLy4cvRx7Vc Video makes... sense..]
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