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Line 18: # Soft rock. A lot of early rock is here; if you're not really sure if they're using an acoustic or an electric guitar, this is probably where you want to put it. # Rock sans intensifier. A bit faster/louder/darker than 2, but still pretty soft. The heaviest soft rock and the softest hard rock can both be found here. # Relatively harder rock. This is about where you can start finding punk, as well; lighter than this and you can't usually muster the kind of anger you need for punk. This is pretty much as heavy as Rock n' Roll got. # Hard rock that is definitely still rock. The love songs start thinning out here, but lyrics at this stage can be about just about anything. The very softest of [[Alternative Metal\|alt-metal]] can also get this low, but it is very rare. # Difficult to tell if it's rock or metal. This is pretty much as far as you can get on just an acoustic guitar. Most [[Glam Metal]] and softer [[Post-Grunge]] can be found here. This is where you'll also find softer [[Alternative Metal]]. Line 24: # Most [[Thrash Metal]], and heavier forms of [[Power Metal]] along with some classic metal. Lyrics are usually very dark at this point. Vocal style is usually a snarl, but clean singing is also common. Occasionally [[Harsh Vocals\|growls]] and [[Metal Scream\|screams]] will be employed. The harder side of hardcore punk is here, and [[Metalcore]] (fusion of thrash metal and hardcore punk) starts to predominate. Whether purists want to hear it or not, the lighter and more atmospheric side of [[Black Metal]] also starts here. You'll also find yet more viking/folk metal populating this region. Most Groove Metal is here. This is pretty much as heavy as you can get with radio airplay (with a few exceptions). # Lighter [[Death Metal]] (especially [[Melodic Death Metal]]) or harder [[Thrash Metal]]. You'll also find a lot of the less abrasive 'true' [[Black Metal]] here. Here is about where you start to get singers [[Harsh Vocals\|growling]] or [[Metal Scream\|screaming]] for most of the song (This is also probably the highest level that can be attained with only clean singing). Lyrics may be very violent or just generally extremely dark. This is the last zone where you are likely to find hardcore punk that doesn't have a substantial metal or noise infusion. This is also about where [[Metalcore]] starts to transition to [[Deathcore]] (which also begins around this level). Most viking/folk metal that has a significant infusion of [[Black Metal]] or [[Death Metal]] falls here. A lot of the heavier side of [[Groove Metal]] is found here. # Most [[Death Metal]] and [[Black Metal]]. Lyrics start to get positively [[Nightmare Fuel\|disturbing]] and/or [[~~Gorn\|gorny~~gorn]]y and the singer will always be growling or screaming. The hardest variants of [[Thrash Metal]], [[Melodic Death Metal]], and viking/folk metal can hit this point, but that is quite uncommon. At this point hardcore bands become indistinguishable from metal to anyone who's not a loyal fan of both genres. Grindcore starts here. While it is possible for a metalcore band to get this high, it's very rare. [[Groove Metal]] at this level usually has a lot of Death Metal influence. # [[Up to Eleven]]: [[Anal Cunt]] is here, along with the harder side of [[Grindcore]] especially the subgenres of pornogrind, noisegrind and goregrind. The most extreme [[Death Metal]] (a good portion of the brutal death metal and slam death metal subgenres end up up here) and [[Black Metal]] also lies here. The very heaviest mathcore (technical, chaotic hardcore) can also reach this level. Growling or screaming will start sounding almost inhuman, and often pitch-shifting or other computer-aided effects are used to drive the vocal range beyond what could normally be sustained during singing~~[[hottip::~~<ref>(astoundingly though, [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ObHhRnvCqk not always]</ref>). Significant elements of this class are [[True Art Is Incomprehensible\|experimental]] in nature, although [[Stealth Parody\|Stealth Parodists]] commonly make their way up here as well. Notes: A [http://m-ex.deviantart.com/art/Devio-Evolution-of-Metal-Fans-234264835 very well exemplified illustration] of different levels of metal heads and the most stereotyped opinions. * ''Lower hardnesses are not bad''. Remember, [[The Beatles]] come in at 2-3, and 10 (or above) [[Your Mileage May Vary\|can be unlistenable]]. Likewise, ''higher hardnesses are not bad''. Remember that even though it may sound like impenetrable noise to you, that doesn't mean in principle it isn't enjoyable, nor that it doesn't contain real musical sophistication and talent. * As time goes on, those metal bands at the top of this chart go to increasingly insane lengths to top one another or themselves, which causes the chart to compress itself to accommodate the new hardness. So a 6 now could be a 4 or 5 ten years from now. Line 37: * Interestingly enough, a live performance, remix, or reissue of a song can actually be a different level than the original studio version, especially if an extended solo(s) or guest musicians are involved. [[Loudness War\|Volume compression]] (which is frequent on recent remasters of old material) may arguably contribute to different hardnesses between releases as well. * [[Christian Rock\|Christian Metal]] is usually as heavy as its mainstream counterpart; however, in most cases, Christian metal '''lyrics''' aren't as dark as secular metal. So, a song could be a 10 or 11 in musical heaviness, while the lyrics could be about the power of God's love for the world. Obviously not all Christian metal songs are like this, but it's a common part of the genre, and the point still stands. As mentioned above, the lyrics are only indicators and don't play a direct part in the song's hardness, so you don't need to place Christian metal songs at a lower hardness just because of the lyrics. ** Similarly, many of the more [[Technical Death Metal\|progressive, technical artists]] who reside at the hard end of the scale (Augury, Death, Neuraxis, and Cephalic Carnage, to name a few) generally write lyrics which, while certainly quite [[Sliding Scale of Idealism Versus Cynicism\|cynical]], and [[Darker and Edgier\|darker]] than most at the soft end of the scale, [[Lyrical Dissonance\|aren't especially graphic or disturbing]]. Their lyrics are often highly philosophical, reflective, introspective, or merely less visceral as opposed to the outright [[Gorn]] written by many of the other bands residing at the top of the scale. Such exceptions also apply to bands such as [[Napalm Death]] and [[The Agonist]] which write politically or socially conscious lyrics. * Sometimes, songs with symphonic elements can be at a lower level of hardness than they would be without the symphonic elements. It depends on how the elements are implemented in the song, however; some more extreme artists use symphonic elements to provide a contrast between blast beats and the like, and manage to be just as heavy as other conventional death/black metal bands. Similarly folk elements work much the same way. Sorting these songs out on a case-by-case basis is the best solution. * Melodic tendencies can play a part in the song's hardness. Similar to the above note regarding symphonic elements, melody can decrease the hardness of a song, but it depends on how it's used, and as such the songs will be handled on a case-by-case basis. * [[Your Mileage May Vary]]: What's extreme to you may sound accessible, even ''catchy'' to the next person, so level assignments are highly subjective. For example, many tropers place metal ballads in level 6. On the other hand, seeing as how metal ballads typically interconnect softer acoustic/piano passages with harder electric guitar/percussion driven passages (that may otherwise reach into 8 to 9 range), one could just as easily assign them to level 7 or 8, depending on how far one felt certain passages removed the music from a level one felt was enjoyable. This is especially true in the case of [[Technical Death Metal\|progressive death metal]], where extended [[Symphonic Metal\|symphonic]], [[~~Jazz\|jazzy~~jazz]]y, [[Progressive Rock\|proggish]], or [[Folk Rock\|folkish]] passages are commonly interlaced with full-on level 10 blasting. Consider [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DlWQr8wYvY The Lair of Purity by Augury] and [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvVf1C8tGlc&hd=1 The Lotus Eater by Opeth] by way of example: are these songs brutalising extreme metal, or are they lighter and gentler progressive metal? * Even within each level, there are varying degrees of heaviness. For example, [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMCLXZJc8Uk Voices of the Dead] is ''definitely'' a heavier and more aggressive song than [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94bGzWyHbu0 Nightmare]. But "Nightmare," thanks in no small part to lines like [[Precision F-Strike\|"Your fucking NIGHTMARE!"]] and brief moments of Metalcore screaming, is ultimately heavy enough to be an 8. While "Voices Of The Dead" is ultimately too melodic for a 9. Line 76: == Level 2 == * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfWEPu0w-7w Nowhere Man] ([[The Beatles (band)\|The Beatles]]) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0 Never Gonna Give You Up] ([[Rick Astley]]) Line 117: == Level 3 == * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOUqRZkR8dE Pinball Wizard] ([[The Who]]) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hc9k3-fwwYM Everywhere] (Michelle Branch) Line 129: * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBszC40uvdQ Black Hole Sun] ([[Soundgarden]]) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuP8VBroyyg B.I.T.C.H.] (Meredith Brooks) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oi8XTvhwF1U Stirb nicht vor Mir] ([[Rammstein]]}) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btEpF334Rtc Combine Harvester] (The Wurzels) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYEfyk2SMx0 My Love is a Stapler] (Afterschool Tea Time; ''[[K-On!]]'') Line 142: * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gw7BO__feBM Action & Action] (The Get Up Kids) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYMCLz5PQVw Space Oddity] ([[David Bowie]]) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7UrFYvl5TE Since U Been Gone] ([[Kelly Clarkson]]) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMFqh_tiHoQ Hotel California] (The Eagles) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Itv6Kt8M-v4 Turn To Stone] ([[Electric Light Orchestra]]) Line 162: == Level 4 == * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3a7cHPy04s8 Satisfaction ] ([[The Rolling Stones]]) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJsQSb9RFo0 Hound Dog] ([[Elvis Presley]]) Line 199: * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIHZZXrMsuI Auctioned] ([[Dark Tranquillity]]) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srffAv9Rves Swanheart] ([[Nightwish]]) * [https://web.archive.org/web/20090509203851/http://www.tu.tv/videos/the-firm-midnight-moonliht Midnight Moonlight] (The Firm)- not a youtube video * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ztwENiiS98 Ready, Willing, and Able] ([[Petra]]) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHxqhlgxvGw Get Thru This] ([[Art of Dying]]) Line 217: == Level 5 == * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDhTumGxB2w Now I'm Here ] ([[Queen]]) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arpZ3fCwDEw Smoke On The Water ] ([[Deep Purple]]) Line 271: == Level 6 == * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQEgZNqa8jE 2112: Overture/Temples of Syrinx] ([[Rush]]) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3szPRF3gaM The Hitman] ([[Queen]]) Line 289: * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvknOXGPzCQ Be Quiet and Drive] ([[Deftones]]) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_Cv1QmZ_ks Hell's Kitchen] ([[Dream Theater]]) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTWKbfoikeg Smells Like Teen Spirit] ([[Nirvana]]) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-r-V0uK4u0 Bullet With Butterfly Wings] ([[The Smashing Pumpkins]]) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCUD52feOmg Getchoo] ([[Weezer]]) Line 310: * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiPFttKbSiI Mutter] ([[Rammstein]]) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPbYEeCLB-Q Consequences] / [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQ6hG7XX6zI The Melancholy] ([[Iced Earth]]) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGmAmJFUvzM The End] ([[The Doors]])<ref> Pretty hardcore for 1967.</ref> * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1IReGYKsyM God Save The Queen] ([[Sex Pistols]]) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsONzEqrr6w I Wanna Be A Drug Sniffing Dog] (Lard) Line 321: * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lZgHdOU-ko Wicked Garden] ([[Stone Temple Pilots]]) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-NLa1K7Dj8 Rapture] (Hurt) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyFgDYoEMMA Misery Business] ([[Paramore]]) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFBIr3Vx16w To Holmgard and Beyond] ([[Turisas]]) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHfY6VTRUFk Self Esteem] ([[The Offspring]]) Line 353: * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=semzRrVqiMg The Czar] ([[Mastodon]]) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhci-MG4DNE Dead Star] ([[Muse (band)\|Muse]]) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPULEde8Tw8 Last Before The Storm] ([[~~Gamma Ray (Music)\|~~Gamma Ray]]) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBm_fuIeQL0 Zero] / [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoUVCMx7RWM Fuck You]([[The Smashing Pumpkins]]) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Lg2AAXaWCU The Curse Of Feanor] ([[Blind Guardian]]) Line 365: * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKhfkfnbAMQ Pull Me Under] ([[Dream Theater]]) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUJQ5Kngw8g Guardian] (Fates Warning) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32GsPfUnsRk I Don't Believe in Love] ([[~~Queensryche~~Queensrÿche]]) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4h1wciz45o Our Solemn Hour] ([[Within Temptation]]) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zb1Wghne1w The End of Heartache] ([[Killswitch Engage]]) Line 394: * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5y9m0XEtIE Breakfast of Champions] (Comadre) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rltcohCUwY Hole in the Sky] ([[Axel Rudi Pell]]) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEzXFuYN89k Open Your Heart] ([[Crush 40]]) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCbvDPSBBD4 Prepare For Oblivion] ([[Universe At War]] soundtrack) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTlhUfBLKlM Riding the Storm] ([[Running Wild (band)\|Running Wild]]) Line 411: * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYTzcubws7Y Assistant to the Regional Manager] ([[The Devil Wears Prada (band)\|The Devil Wears Prada]]) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmvj96NyVN0 Replace Me] (Family Force 5) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_jj5bzkBQ0 Life After Death and Taxes] ([[Relient K]])<ref> Would be bordering on 8 if not for the soft sections.</ref> * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vAtLMyba5 Treason] (Kutless) <ref> If the instruments were any lighter, it would border on a 5 or 6.</ref> * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kTBbTSjZpI I Am (All of Me)] ([[Crush 40]]) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdmhFhxJIXQ&feature=related Ultra] ([[KMFDM]]) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ien0GEn2Bio Criminal] (Attack Attack!) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aN0SNk3P3a4 Ride] (Presence) <ref> Ignore that bit at the beginning, obviously</ref> * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UW8UIW8eXCk California Uber Alles]<ref> LP version</ref> ([[Dead Kennedys]]) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYpWjaCdsPs Yours] (Toby Mac) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_UwEap5TDA Carry On, Wayward Son (Kansas Cover)] (The Showdown) Line 429: * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MmQcPRZaVE What Doesn't Die] ([[Anthrax]]) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdWVjXvFgU0 Family System] ([[Chevelle]]) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSaBveD7zvA&ob=av3e Unholy Confessions] (Avenged Sevenfold) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUb0TmXuECM Écailles De Lune Pt. 2] (Alcest) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-S9ErhqPSo Not The American Average] (Asking Alexandria) Line 441: == Level 8 == * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faJdBl0_e-I Endless, Nameless] ([[Nirvana]]) [The quiet parts keep it from earning a 9 or 10] * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksutNW3HFT8 The Donkey-Headed Adversary of Humanity Opens the Discussion] (Sleepytime Gorilla Museum) Line 448: * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xyxtzD54rM Given Up] ([[Linkin Park]]) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcXSj8QeL70 Among the Living] ([[Anthrax]]) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULXT9xgSsDs Striker] (Annihilator) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGthXdVWaNQ Firestorm] (Earth Crisis) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGywo81G6lk Trollhammaren] ([[Finntroll]]) Line 465: * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9fSgUvT5iw Evenfall] (Tristania) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJE6CSPkgT0 At the Gallows End] ([[Candlemass]]) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7Zo3FmtVJ4 Forests in Fire and Gold] (Drudkh) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cliTbuXF26g Depth Charge] ([[Devin Townsend]]) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lDcp_vD6HI Land of the Dead] ([[Summoning]]) Line 511: * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZG7aDAPBCwY Birdo] (Horse The Band) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoxXnEdZA6o Acidhead] (Tourniquet) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Vnf0McFrgg Into The Storm] ([[Blind Guardian]]) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJtDD9UMDBo Remnants/Asylum] ([[Disturbed]]) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tA2n-o7jms Live at the Sandopolis] (Braincells) Line 539: == Level 9 == * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6_zsJ8KPP0 Angel of Death] ([[Slayer]]) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTrevt0rP74 Beneath The Remains] ([[Sepultura]]) Line 569: * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZ6b4DrMz2g Piece of Time] ([[Atheist]]) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_09IAg12q8 Veil of Maya] ([[Cynic]]) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IetyQQgJOFM The Air that I Breathe] (All That Remains) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cn9ezlUZgsQ Feed the Gods] ([[Rob Zombie\|White Zombie]]) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJiOFu5nZ5o This Darkened Heart Steeped In the Abyssal Void] (He Who Bathes In The Black Sun) [The soft guitar tone prevents this from scoring an 11] Line 588: * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-506_jiYkA Deeper Down] ([[My Dying Bride]]) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBXBnpiMuqA Drawn to Black] (Insomnium) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBWC4JU8szU Wreath] ([[Opeth]]) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWEvDS0UNsk Axiom] (Akercocke) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrAHhZuSeSY Skyless] (Augury) Line 638: * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EbkKnkMnmA Killing You, Killing Me] ([[Ill Niño\|Ill Nino]]) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLk75fFXqH4 Under and Over It] ([[Five Finger Death Punch]]) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfvRzJY6a7E Eyes of a Criminal] (Chimaira) <ref> The clean vocals before the bridge keep it from getting a 10.</ref> * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEvMWirqRQ0 Evil in You] (Kalmah) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y693S_DI-PY D.O.A.] (The Haunted) Line 656: == Level 10 == * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ktps-BGhKw0 Rape Song] (Strapping Young Lad) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r97e1ooniyI Becoming God] (Augury) Line 716: * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e47AI83sdo0 Enjoy the Violence] (Massacra) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oey85FGHOHc Slaves Shall Serve] (Behemoth) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6e0Nrlr_jg Ritual] (Blasphemy) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn0iY1RbXnA Plague Rages] ([[Napalm Death]]) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57pPK9LIa34 Of Wolf and Fear] ([[Ulver]]) Line 738: * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhY9bEj2H2g Carving a Giant] (Gorgoroth) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb68WxGRIaQ My Nemesis] (Impending Doom) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbyw_mOcMe0 Eye of the Tiger] (Ten Masked Men) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ua9vDbgHxzE War Ensemble] ([[As I Lay Dying]]) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjKyzwqIT7s The Violation] (Fleshgod Apocalypse) (where the symphonic elements help the heaviness) Line 753: * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGo5MBAiwaE Agitated Screams of Maggots] ([[Dir En Grey]]) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McJnf8J85EU Climactic Degradation] (The Black Dahlia Murder) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm3sroX2I2M Comatose] (Chimaira) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PdBpuF-IjE Self-Pity Human] (In Thy Dreams) Here because of the sheer aggression of the music, in contrast to most of the Melodic Death Metal out there. * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksx_n43TipM Terminal Liberation] (Mors Principium Est) Similar to the case above. Line 766: == Level 11 == * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mx5aaDbKi6I Skinned] (Mortician) * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8yjFSjcCb0 You're Pregnant, So I Kicked You in the Stomach] ([[Anal Cunt]]) Line 810: [[Category:Sorting Algorithm of Tropes]] [[Category:Music Tropes]] [[Category:~~Mohs Scale of Rock and Metal Hardness~~{{PAGENAME}}]] ~~[[Category:Hottip markup]]~~