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== Literature ==
* In [[Dan Abnett]]'s [[Gaunt's Ghosts]] novel ''His Last Command'', Gaunt and Wilder know that someone will have to [[You Shall Not Pass|make a last stand]] to give the rest of the regiment a chance to escape. Gaunt lays it out and offers to do it. Wilder refuses, points out that Gaunt does not have a command position, and orders him to take the regiment to safety.
* In William King's [[Warhammer 4000040,000]] novel ''[[Space Wolf]]'', Sergeant Hengist sends Ragnar and some other young Marines to [[Bring News Back]] (of Chaos Space Marines) while Hengist and others [[You Shall Not Pass|hold them off]]. Ragnar wants to protest, and Hengist tells him that being a Space Marine is not easy, and sends him off. When one of the other Marines is injured during their escape, Ragnar sends the others on [[No One Gets Left Behind|while he tends the injured]]—over their objections, succeeding when he threatens them, and they leave only with the comment that next time, it will be their turn to tend the wounded.
* ''Red Seas Under Red Skies'': {{spoiler|Locke and Jean have both been poisoned, and there's only enough antidote for one. Each one wants the other to take the antidote. Jean threatens to physically force Locke to take it, but [[Magnificent Bastard]] Locke reveals that he's already slipped the antidote into Jean's drink.}}
* In [[C. S. Lewis|CS Lewis]]'s ''[[The Voyage of the Dawn Treader]]'', when invisible beings threaten to massacre them unless Lucy goes into a magician's tower to cast a spell, Lucy agrees to do it, and the boys argue with her that they want to defend her. Only when the fearless Reepicheep refuses to try dissuading her, observing that she is being brave and doing a heroic act, are they convinced to let her go.
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** In ''Small Favor'', Michael and Harry argue about who gets to be the last one on the helicopter. Harry, having [[I Gave My Word|promised his daughter]] and having seen a Valkyrie eye him, wins. {{spoiler|Michael ends up shot and very nearly dead while dangling from the helicopter.}}
** It is worth noting that if Harry had gone first, {{spoiler|both would have died}}. According to Uriel in 'The Warrior'.
* In [[Ben Counter]]'s [[Warhammer 4000040,000]] [[Horus Heresy]] novel ''Battle for the Abyss'', when {{spoiler|Cestus}} asks for the bombs, {{spoiler|Brynngar}} punches him instead, on the grounds that it's a one-way trip. {{spoiler|Cestus does make it to the escape pod, to find that the traitor captain is also there. He kills him and dies himself, for a full [[Kill'Em All]].}}
* In ''[[Outbound Flight]]'', the last surviving Jedi and the brother of the man who caused all this try to put Outbound Flight into a stable orbit over a planet, only to find that the drive is too damaged. It shuts down, and they see that Outbound Flight will crash. They and the Dreadnaught where the fifty-seven survivors went to were on opposite sides, and the only way that the other survivors could live through the crash would be if the side the two of them were on hit first.
{{quote|'''Thrass''': "There's still time for you to leave, you know. You may at least be able to get to the core before we hit, perhaps even all the way to D-Four."
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** A lesser version in ''The Half Blood Prince'', when Dumbledore and Harry are breaking into Voldemort's cave. A hidden door requires a sacrifice of blood, as deduced by Dumbledore; Harry offers to provide it in his place, but Dumbledore insists that Harry's blood is more valuable and takes the initiative to cut his own arm open with a knife (and promptly heal it back up again with magic).
*** Later, when they're leaving, it's Harry's turn to pull this, using the valid argument that he's already bleeding anyway.
* In [[James Swallow]]'s [[Warhammer 4000040,000]] novel ''[[Blood Angels|Red Fury]]'', Dante tries to get the Chapter Masters off-planet when the mutants attack. One is offended at the thought they would run away from mutants, Dante says that they did not bring about the problem; Blood Angels did, and another says they will nevertheless help fight it, because the first was right, it could be construed as an insult. Dante says he is honored.
* In ''[[The Bartimaeus Trilogy|Ptolemy's Gate]]'', Bartimaeus and Nathaniel lie to Kitty, telling her that they will be able to escape alive when she can't, to persuade her to leave. {{spoiler|Then Nathaniel, at the very end, dismisses Bartimaeus against his will, so he alone has to die.}}
* In [[J. R. R. Tolkien|JRR Tolkien]]'s ''[[The Lord of the Rings|Fellowship of the Ring]]'', Boromir thinks this is his motivation for wanting to take the Ring away from Frodo (self-deception, since the Ring is clouding his mind). Frodo concludes he must go off alone, without telling the others, to forestall their willingness to come with him. Sam deduces this and threatens to prevent his leaving if he doesn't take him—but Sam's actions aren't More Hero Than Thou because he doesn't want to be the hero himself, just go along..
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* In the Chinese tale of the "righteous stepmother of Qin", her son and stepson were found near a murdered body. Both men confessed to the crime in an attempt to shield the other. (When the stepmother recommended the execution of her son, not her stepson, and explained that he was the junior, and she had the duty to look after her stepson, the king pardoned them both for her devotion to duty.)
* In Andy Hoare's [[White Scars]] novel ''Hunt for Voldorius'', Jhogai demands the right, [[Combat by Champion|as company champion, to face off against the Chaos champion Nullus]]. {{spoiler|He loses}}.
* In the [[Isaac Asimov]] collection ''[[I, Robot (literature)|I, Robot]]'', the story "Runaround" features Powell and Donovan arguing over who should risk their life to rescue a malfunctioning robot. Powell proposes a math contest: whoever can solve a difficult math problem gets to go. Of course, he has already solved it in his head before he proposes it, and immediately solves it and runs off before Donovan can stop him.
* In [[Adrian Tchaikovsky]]'s ''[[Shadows of the Apt|Dragonfly Falling]]'', Salma tries to tell Totho he can't sell himself to the Wasp to save him, but Totho informs him that he has already done so, and if Salma doesn't take the escape he did it for, Totho has done it in vain.
* In [[Terry Pratchett]]'s ''[[Discworld/Moving Pictures|Moving Pictures]]'', Laddie and Gaspode set fire to the Odium to destroy the film-creature. When Gaspode's leg goes, Laddie [[No One Gets Left Behind|picks him up and carries him]], despite Gaspode's [[I Will Only Slow You Down|protestions]] that there's no time, and he's just going to get them ''both'' killed.
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== Live-Action TV ==
* ''[[Star Trek: The Original Series|Star Trek the Original Series]]'': when aliens offer Kirk the choice of sacrificing McCoy or Spock, McCoy takes out Kirk with drugs. Spock is glad; being in command, he can make it himself. Then McCoy takes him out to make the sacrifice.
** Several more canon Trek examples, such as "Once More Unto The Breach" and "These Are the Voyages", and ''Nemesis''.
*** Also an unsuccessful attempt in "Obsession".
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* ''[[Breath of Fire II]]'': Nina goes through a personal quest to acquire an artifact that will allow her to become The Great Bird. Unfortunately the process is permanent and she's basically sacrificing her humanity and sentience for the good of the group, and the world. Her sister Mina has other ideas and steals the artifact so SHE can sacrifice herself instead.
* In ''[[Mega Man X]] 5'', in order to stop the [[Colony Drop]], one of the heroes has to maneuver a shuttle into crashing into it. Zero volunteered himself, as he stated that, whether or not he (Zero) survives the crash, the world is still in danger, and X is needed more than he is.
* At the end of [[LAL.A. Noire]] {{spoiler|Cole and Jack argue over who will boost the other out of the sewer before the water rushes through. Cole maintains that he has a better chance to make the jump without any help, as Jack had been shot in the arm. ("You're wounded, Jack. Let me help you.") He then [[Heroic Sacrifice|lets himself die.]]}}
* After Arthas is killed in [[World of Warcraft]], {{spoiler|Tirion and Bolvar}} have a minor disagreement over who should be the next Lich King. The latter wins out.
* At the end of ''[[Baten Kaitos]] Origins'', {{spoiler|Sagi is grabbed by a machina as the party flees Tarazed's core. Milly realizes the control unit doesn't have enough power to override the machina and prepares to power it herself, which would kill her. Before she can do it, however, Guillo rushes past her and powers it up, sacrificing itself.}}
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