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Much like the jewels and gems inches below the soil, the land itself is filled with rumors and mysteries. If you have guesses on anything else then:
 
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I question why Celestia is only a "Princess" and my theory is that the Princess' parents are King and Queen of a greater nation (or Equestria IS that greater nation, ponies just call whatever the Princess' rule Equestria just like humans call the USA America even though it's one country on the Super-Continent America). The Royal family is either the last living family to express genetic markers of Alicorn (see my above theory of Alicorns being Progenitors of all Ponies) OR they are the only family to ever HAVE expressed all the Genetic Markers.
 
This helps with the sort of demi-god / quasi-god status they have, especially if you consider the possibility that the Sun and Moon can "rise" without Celestia and Luna, but they have the magical power to do it and it's simply become a symbolic thing / they have sort of become venerated as Gods and thus need to act as if they are. This Troper subscribe to the theory that Celestia, Luna, Discord, and other "demigods" were the original controllers of the elements of Harmony, and this still works with that. Being a quasi-god is basically no different from being extremely powerful in magic. The Alicorns are really power magic users, Discord was a really powerful magic user among Dragonequus. Celestia and Luna's parents are even more powerful, but delegated the use of the Elements of Harmony to their daughters and others.
 
== The reason for the [[Schizo -Tech]] is because Equestria is way behind the tech level of other nations ==
And is trying to catch up by importing some of the more advanced stuff.
 
== Equestria is actually an abandoned amusement/theme park. ==
Specifically, an amusement park world, created countless ages ago by human or human-like (let's not necessarily preclude elves or fairies) magical beings as a place for them and their children to vacation.... and the ponies--- Earth, Pegasus, Unicorn and Alicorn(winged unicorn)--- were created as the entertainment and maintenance staff (along with perhaps the other intelligent creatures such as the cows, mules, buffalo, etc). Untold ages later, the original builders of the amusement park abandoned it and left the live-in staff to their own devices.
If you think about it, it all makes tremendous sense. Where else would everything-- the plants, the animals, the climate, the seasons-- be so micromanaged? Where else would you see such surprisingly tame "wild" animals? (Even the "monsters" are a relatively minimal threat.) If the ponies were the genetically established head caretakers, it only makes sense that the other species would have an obedience instinct implanted in them (diluted over the millenia, but still effective enough for Fluttershy to cow a Cockatrice, a Manticore and a dragon.) It also explains the [[Schizo -Tech]] (crank Victrolas next to modern turntables, candles and lanterns next to electric lights, medieval armor, wild west outfits, victorian wigs, fashions from the 80's, etc) as the sort of thing one would need on the "backlot" of an amusement park, where themed performances of every possible culture and era would be likely. Why else would the ponies be using musical instruments with keys for HUMAN fingers, cups with handles, tools with hand grips, etc-- save as a racial memory of doing things for the convenience of human guests? It would explain why the ponies were PULLING the train engine rather than RIDING it; they have an instinctual memory that trains should be pulled, and should have an engine up front... but the recollection of how it all works is screwy after so much time. It even explains why gemstones are scattered so prolifically around Equestria that Spike can casually snack on them, and Rarity thinks nothing of digging up four WAGONLOADS of gemstones, out of loose topsoil, just to decorate a dress.... part of the fanciful setting, the ground is "salted" with heaps of prefabricated gems for any children who wanted to play at "treasure hunting."(or perhaps are coaxed into growing, like crystals...)
* Celestia and Luna are AI constructs or uploaded humans who have the access codes necessary to command and reprogram the sufficiently advanced technology of the park, their original jobs being dealing with any situations the ponies couldn't handle themselves. Their falling out a millennium ago was really over what to do now that the park had been abandoned.
** That theory goes better under the "matrix" WMG further up this page.
* This would explain even more about Ponyville in Generation 3. Perhaps the G3 cartoons portrayed Ponyville the amusement park in its early stages of abandonment, and the reason all the ponies kept throwing parties, putting on shows, redecorating the place, and serving desserts with such frequency back then was that they still expected guests from the outside world to show up and wanted to stay in practice. Like Disneyland, they had a castle that was mainly just for show, and there were even a rollercoaster and Ferris wheel, free to ride, right in the middle of town!
 
== Hoofington doesn't exist. ==
{{spoiler|If Trixie had claimed to have saved a real town from an Ursa Major, eventually she would have run into somepony from that town who would know that her story is a lie. So she make up Hoofington to prevent this.}}
* Alternatively, it's one of those town names that you see pretty much everywhere you go. Like say, Springfield in the United States. That way Trixie doesn't have to specify which Hoofington she's talking about.
 
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Of course, this is just an extremely tiny example of what kind of "people" exist on the planet, and wouldn't really represent the entire population as a whole. They may also have their own brands of magic (distinct for each nation/species) that they use to keep the laws of physics and the planet as a whole running. The only odd duck character is Gilda the Griffon.
* The cows we have seen live in barns and are clearly under the rule of and dependent upon the ponies. If they were ever a separate nation, they appear to have lost their independence and their liberty at some point in the past.
** Or their families immigrated into Equestria at some point in the past.
 
To an extent proven true via "Hearth's Warming Eve". Equestria is a region of land, not the entire planet. What lies outside of Equestria's borders, we don't know yet.
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== Equestria entered a technological dark age after the imprisonment of Nightmare Moon. ==
Equestria was once MUCH more advanced, but the war between Nightmare Moon and Celestia a thousand years ago ruined the infrastructure of society, the [[Schizo -Tech]] we see all the time having been scavenged and refurbished from the ruins.
 
== Cloudsdale first existed as a Weather Factory, not a town. ==
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Really, "magic talking equines who have a society based on friendship" is a pretty strange concept. Discord created a servitor race to be an audience to his madness, as well as a planet for them to stand on. He messed with this race constantly by changing their form and mashing them up with other creatures (thus all the hybrid races). Ponies were just the form they happened to be in at the moment that someone managed to use another magic source to put an end to his "creative" spree.
 
== The play in [[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic (Animation)/Recap/S2 /E13 HearthsHearth's Warming Eve|Hearth's Warming Eve]] is not historically accurate. ==
Pretty much [[Exactly What It Says Onon the Tin]]. However, rather than it being [[Future Imperfect]] at work, it's due to different influences from [[Values Dissonance|a changing culture]] to [[Acceptable Breaks From Reality|the fact that the ponies have to work with a physical stage and a living audience with the typical attention span]].
 
Some of the changes are as follows:
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** After Pegasopolis, Unicornia and [[Bread, Eggs, Milk, Squick|Dirtville/Earth/Terra/whatever]] were properly founded, ''then'' the leaders, and their governments, moved to the settlements. Only then do they start to notice the others there as well. This was due to each having small numbers, being widely spaced, and more interested in internal affairs for years rather than in what was going on outside of the settlements. With the governments relocated and booming populations, the three settlements could afford to send out scouts further afield. This period probably lasted a good ten years or so.
** There was a full blown war. Either as a [[Melee a Trois]], or between two tribes (If the speculation on Pansy is true, Daddy Commander Hurricane found out?) with the other joining into the fray soon after.
** The leaders and their aids get stuck in the cave and the events happen more or less as portrayed. However, outside their forces learn the lesson of Friendship earlier. Due to the cold, ponies start freezing to death. Realizing that they have all lost their leaders in the confusion, and that if they all freeze to death they won't be able to kill each other, a truce is called, and all the ponies become friends, singing songs, dancing, playing games and shareing what little food they have, much like the [http://en.[wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_truce:Christmas truce|1914 Christmas Day Truce]]. This was left out due to time.
 
== The Flag shown at the end of the [[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic (Animation)/Recap/S2 /E13 HearthsHearth's Warming Eve|play]] is not an anachronism ==
At the end of the play, a flag is raised showing what looks to be the modern Equestria flag, which plainly displays Celestia and Luna as Alicorns. While this may seem out of place if the events take place before their births, it would make since if the idea of an Alicorn, all three breeds in one pony existed before them as a Heraldric symbol (see the entry in the Equestrian Culture Folder). So, the flag for Equeatria is more or less the same flag as designed by the founding ponies. To put this in perspective, think of it being if the Founding Fathers kept the [http://en.[wikipedia.org/wiki/Gadsden_flag:Gadsden flag|Gadsen Flag]] as the United State's national flag.
** Hmm... does that mean Celestia and Luna were [[God Needs Prayer Badly|created by the will of their people?]]
 
== The historical events depicted in "[[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic (Animation)/Recap/S2 /E13 HearthsHearth's Warming Eve|Hearth's Warming Eve]]" occurred ''after'' Celestia and Luna overthrew Discord. ==
After they overthrew Discord, Celestia and Luna saw no reason to assume political control of pony society. Why would they have? They probably thought that everything would be fine now that Discord was gone. After the founding of Equestria, however, the conflicts between the three races of ponies flared up again, and so Celestia and Luna took over because, as Alicorns, they represented all three races. We know that Celestia and Luna were around at that time, because Clover the Clever mentioned that her mentor had been Starswirl the Bearded, whom Luna mentioned, in "Nightmare Night," having met personally. Since it is likely that Starswirl was either already dead by the time of the events depicted in "Hearth's Warming," or at least rather old (after all, Clover was already a chief counselor to Princess Platinum, suggesting that she was already a mature adult by that point), it follows that Celestia and Luna must already have been around. In fact, it's even possible that the ending depicted in 'Hearth's Warming" is inaccurate, and that the conflict actually ended with Celestia and Luna taking political control of all three groups, but that they've given out that the ponies managed to settle their differences themselves for propaganda purposes.
** Luna never said she knew Starswirl personally, she only recognized Twilight's costume and said she got the bells right. Luna might have known that for the same reason Twilight did, because Starswirl was an important historical figure who anypony versed in magic would have studied.
 
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It's quite possible the main characters of the play, or their immediate ancestors, brought all of this to pass.
* That'd make for an interesting fic...
* Given the cautionary tale behind [[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic (Animation)/Recap/S2 /E17 Hearts and Hooves Day|Hearts and Hooves Day]], perhaps the Love Poison was the cause of the decline of the old pony kingdom. The Earth Ponies became mistrusting of the pegasi, since it was most likely one of their number who stumbled upon the Love Poison recipe that required all sorts of things only a pegasus would have easy access to, the Pegasi declared martial law to prevent their own society from crumbling, and Princess Platinum was thrust into power at a younger than expected age as she was the only other heir to the Unicorn throne.
 
== The alicorns on the flag in "Hearth's Warming Eve" are not Celestia and Luna. ==
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== Though united, the uneasy tension between the three races after the founding of Hearth's Warming Eve is what sets the stage for Discord to be created/arrive and take over Equestia. ==
While there's certainly friendship between the three races following the thawing, years of disdain between themselves is not going to evaporate overnight. One can imagine that there will be heated discussions for how to wrap-up winter properly, etc, as they learn to work together and not in the former tithing situation prior. And then consider how little it took for Discord to escape from the statue: the little spat between one filly of each species. Imagine that at a much much larger scale. Whether Discord existed before and could only take power upon such conflict, or that the strength of the conflict created Discord, it's hard to tell, but certainly he would easily conquer the land in such a case.
* I kinda like the idea that Discord was the result of ''ALL'' the races bickering, including non-ponies. That's why he's a mishmash of so many different creatures. But he enjoys tormenting ponies particularly, possibly due to the [[Stalker Withwith a Crush]] fanon toward Celestia (You won't love me? Say goodbye to your precious ponies!)
 
== Building off the "Hearth's Warming play isn't historically accurate" WMG above: ==
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== Another timeline. ==
[[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic (Animation)/Recap/S2 /E13 HearthsHearth's Warming Eve|>>]] The Fire of Friendship and the founding of Equestria.<br />[[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic (Animation)/Recap/S2 /E17 Hearts and Hooves Day|>>]] The original alicorn princess and the love poison.<br />[[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic (Animation)/Recap/S2 E1/E01 The Return of Harmony Part 1|>>]] Our lord and master Discord, the great draconequus.<br />[[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic (Animation)/Recap/S2 E1/E01 The Return of Harmony Part 1|>>]] The Elements of Harmony and the sister princesses.<br />[[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic (Animation)/Recap/S1 E1/E01 Mare in Thethe Moon|>>]] The Mare in the Moon and the long lonesome reign.<br />[[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic (Animation)/Recap/S2 /E11 Family Appreciation Day|>>]] Ponyville, a tale of timber wolves and zap apples.<br />[[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic (Animation)/Recap/S1 /E23 The Cutie Mark Chronicles|>>]] The [[Meaningful Name|Twilight]] [[Gotterdammerung|of the Gods]] and the [[Dawn of an Era|dawn of a new era]].
 
== Hearts and Hooves Day accidentally revealed Discord's origin story to us. ==
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My theory: Platinum, Hurricane, and Puddinghead founded Equestria. A prince--possibly Commander Hurricane, for reasons that will be stated later--fell madly in love with Princess Platinum, and used a love potion to entrance her. Until then, Discord had felt intimidated by the great powers of the three windigo-slaying leaders, and didn't think he could successfully pull a coup. However, when the prince (again, possibly Hurricane) and Platinum became entranced with each other on the first Hearts and Hooves Day, Discord rose up and overthrew the last remaining leader, Puddinghead. He is referred to as a "dragon" in the myths because he's mostly dragon, and it's possible that "draconequus" had not been scientifically named yet. He then began the reign of chaos. However, during their obsessive romance, Platinum and the prince (possibly Hurricane) mated--without breaking eye contact, of course--and Platinum gave birth to twins Celestia and Luna. (The reason I suspect the prince is Hurricane: Celestia and Luna got their horns from Platinum, but had to get their wings from elsewhere.) Celestia and Luna discovered the Elements of Harmony and banished Discord for the first time. Somewhere in all this, someone broke Platinum and prince/Hurricane's eye contact, and that was when they figured out the antidote to the love poison.
 
== The name of the titular contraption from [[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic (Animation)/Recap/S2 /E15 The Super Speedy Cider Squeezy 6000|The Super Speedy Cider Squeezy 6000]] gives us a hint about Equestrian calendar. ==
Just like there was a tradition in 20th century to give cutting-edge stuff [[Trope 2000|names that end with "2000"]] in order to make them look more [[Zeerust|futuristic]], the same thing works for Equestria. And since 6000 seems to be their equivalent of 2000, it would indicate that the show takes place in 5900s according to the local calendar. The event from almost six thousand years ago that marks the beginning of the era (many millenia before Nightmare Moon rebellion) was probably the founding of Equestria as told in [[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic (Animation)/Recap/S2 /E13 HearthsHearth's Warming Eve|the holiday episode]], or maybe [[After the End|the overthrowing of the former human overlords]].
* Alternatively, it's like in the Dilbert cartoon, where the 6000 is just tacked on to make it sound more marketable.
 
== The accounts of the founding of Equestria were [[WrittenbytheWritten by the Winners|written by the second in commands]] ==
From the episode, the three tribe leaders were hot-headed, ignorant imbeciles that needed [[Hypercompetent Sidekick|the second in commands]] to function. [[Alternate Character Interpretation|But from another point of view]] the SIC could have written the accounts with [[Character Exaggeration]] or made themselves look like they were unappreciated hard workers who worked for idiots. Take the "Fizz-Ed" ep of [[Daria]]. It pointed out that just because your the only sane man and smarter than people it doesn't excuse you from just being in the shadows, snarking or plotting how to make things better or mock others who are higher authority than you. If under more extreme circumstances, Smart Cookie could have lead a revolution or become [[The Starscream]], Privet Pansy could have let her nerves lead a battalion to their deaths or let another army take victory and Clover the Clever could just wallow about always being in second place to the princess or unintentionally harm Princess Platnium.
 
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== The Everfree Forest causes the ponies to have an existential crisis. ==
So the ponies are obviously afraid of the monsters in the forest, but they've also expressed fear at the very idea that the forest can operate autonomously. Now, imagine that you're job is, say, controlling the weather. You spend years and years learning, training, and improving your craft. You get to be pretty good at it, maybe the best like Dash claims to be. And then, you find out that there is a place that does it without your help. Suddenly, your life is cast into doubt. If the Everfree forest doesn't need the ponies' help, who's to say the rest of Equestria does? [[Total Recall|Perhaps your job is nothing but a lie, meant to keep you busy.]] Maybe you've wasted your life learning a handy but ultimately unnecessary skill. What if the world ''just doesn't need you?'' The forest would probably freak you out too.
* Seeing how a major city (Cloudsdale) is built around the fact ponies can control said clouds this would also cause an economic crisis.
* Um... "Control the weather?" Believe me, that is the ''last'' thing anypony would let go of. Sunshine and rain ''on demand''? Perfect weather for growing apples at any time? Never overly long winters (assuming they got it done in time) that would decrease crop yields? Existentialist crisis maybe, but definitely not out of a job.
** It's not being out of a job that scares them, but the idea that they're job is largely unnecessary in the grand scheme of things. Incredibly helpful the job may be, but it'll still get on without them, if in a more chaotic way.
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== The show takes place [[After the End]]. ==
Considering that there are no humans and the Ponies live in houses and do other human things we can only assume that humanity was wiped out and hyper-intelligent Equines just moved right in. Or possibly, as revenge for years of mistreatment, they took out the humans themselves!
{{quote|"Could it be? In a bizarre twist, a horse is abusing a jockey! Might this be the start of a terrifying [[Planet of the Apes|planet of the horses]]? In this announcer's opinion, almost certainly yes! And away I go!" |'''[[The Simpsons (Animationanimation)|The Simpsons]]'''}}
* This makes even more sense when you realize that ponies know what human skull (AB's costume in "The Show Stoppers") and hand (Pinkie's foam hand in "Sonic Rainboom") look like , make references to France and Netherlands, dress up as Statue Of Liberty, use tools clearly designed for human hands (snow shovels in "Winter Wrap Up") and are able to see themselves as saddle animals (Applejack in "Bridle Gossip", Spike in "Dog And Pony Show", Twilight saying "gift horse" - how can horse be a gift in world like Equestria?) [[Fridge Horror|The more you think about it...]]
** The gift horse thing isn't that hard. Perhaps Equestria abolished the slave trade only a generation or two ago.
*** It could have been even longer, we still use the term "Cakewalk" despite it's origins in US slavery. Alternatively it could be an example of linguistic shift, meaning "Gift (giving) Horse", sort of how we use the term "Sleep tight" despite it not making sense in modern English except in that context.
** Don't forget Twilight's saddle for "Winter Wrap Up". The real question is, what catastrophe caused the whether to stop changing everywhere but the Everfree Forest?
*** Perhaps it started by using magic to force the seasons to change when they wanted, which destroyed the season's abilities to change on their own with the exception of a few areas around the world?
* Judging by the fact that according to Twilight the same constellations visible from Earth are also visible from Equestria (Orion, Canis Major and Canis Minor are mentioned and she has Rarity sew them into her personalized dress in an episode), wherever they are would have to share a location with Earth.
* This could explain why the train in "Over A Barrel", complete with locomotive, was ''pulled'' by horses. It is a leftover relic of human civilization that Equestrians have utilized as best they can.
* And "Manehattan" is just Manhattan. The buildings were still standing after the humans died off, so the ponies moved in. And in an attempt to erase all signs of humans, the Statue of Liberty was remodeled into a pony.
** [[Planet of the Apes|GOD DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!]]
* There is actually a [[http://ponibooru.413chan.net/_images/0a5767780a07fcf26218eb4723357ccf/7487%20-<!-- 20blood20celestia%20blood%20celestia%20luna%20Ottanta.jpg picture]]{{Dead link}} floating around suggesting that. Be careful. It comes from a booru, so NSFW is a given/ -->
*** Here's another picture with Lyra Heartstrings discovering something's [httphttps://gavalancheweb.archive.org/web/20191216073625/https://www.deviantart.com/gallerygavalanche/gallery?q=lyra#/d3czqct not right.]
* Dogs exist, and dogs were domesticated by humans; without us, they wouldn't exist. Either humans live somewhere on the planet, or they died out (or moved?).
** Or ponies domesticated dogs themselves, the only one (besides the Diamond Dogs) we've seen was a herding breed.
*** Ponies.. Domesticating dogs.. That induces [[Fridge Logic]] and [[Furry Confusion]].
*** Wait a second, Diamond Dogs is a song about an apocalypse. [[David Bowie]] knows the future!
* France is mentioned several times too.
* As for why no one remembers anything about humanity beyond abstract concepts, a ruthless, [[Secret Police]]-styled sect of the Equestrian government works in the shadows to systematically hunt down and destroy every remaining trace of human presence, in the name of preserving the "paradise" that the ponies were able to build once they were freed from the destructive influence of men.
** So, Equestria is secretly harboring a [[Nineteen Eighty-Four|1984-like]] network? That ''needs'' to be addressed in a fanfic.
* What ever cataclysm wiped out the previous inhabitants also rendered the planet uninhabitable and tidally locked. The reason that ponies control the weather and care for the animals is because the ecosystem that once supported them no longer exists. This is why Celestia and Luna are required to keep the planet rotating.
* From the clues we have in-universe, it would appear that whatever planet Equestria is on is geocentric. Luna refused to lower the moon, and is able to make it remain night for extended periods of time, Rarity literally gets too close to the sun and her magic wings turn to ash, it all points to a small sun and moon close to the planet.
** A planet without a solar orbit would also at least partially lack dynamic weather and distinct seasons, which would explain the Winter Wrap-Up and the pegasi having to schedule weather. Areas that have weather that changes 'on its own' could very well be due to the side effects of the ponies locally created weather affecting surrounding areas.
** Perhaps Friendship is magic takes place REALLY FAR into the future, after the sun has burned out, the sun and moon are magical or otherwise artificial, and it is literally the ponies' magic that is keeping the planet alive at all.
*** From the orbit of Pluto, most of the constellations we know would be exactly the same, but a burned-out red giant of a Sun would be just one more star in the background...
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* Hoity Toity also mentioned that he was craving Dutch apple pie after seeing Applejack's outfit in "Suited for Success"
* Photo Finish is clearly German, even using a few German words. And in that same episode we see a pony with asian slanted eyes...
* Of course France exists: that's where Mareseilles and [http://en.[wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Havre:Le Havre|Le Hoovre]] are located. And the Netherlands exists too: that's where Trotterdam is.
 
== The show is foreshadowing the end of OUR Earth and what it'll look like in the future. ==
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== In Equestria, a lunar or solar eclipse would be a mind-blowing cosmic horror. ==
In the real world, the moon can be out at any time of day. Sometimes it only appears with the sun and isn't visible at all at night. But Nightmare Moon's backstory implies that in Equestria, the moon and the sun are mutually exclusive. Why? Because Luna and Celestia arranged a fixed cycle of moon and sun in order to more effectively manage the tides. Maybe they even worked out the interactions of gravitational pulls to reduce natural disasters like earthquakes or tsunamis. Maintaining the sun and moon's relative position is of the utmost importance.
 
Alternately, the Equestrian solar system is not heliocentric, but has spheres like Ptolemy theorized. But rather than the sun and moon being embedded in one sphere, they are both set onto a fixed path in the same sphere and circle around it like race cars on a track.
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== Four Stars are ponies who served Nightmare Moon for thousand years or they got awaken before series pilot. After Nigtmare Moon gone they got transformed or turned back back to more normal ponies. ==
Now they wander aroud Equestria, confused and trying to make something from rest of their powers or fit in. They are not evil, but still little jerkass, they strong powers (depending what pony species). And they have Cutie Mark related to stars, moon, night, sparking or magic.
* The Great and Powerful Trixie?
** Of course!
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== Related to above. Four Stars are now normal ponies, nothing indicating their hidden power and role as NM servants. ==
They propably have normal life before NM return and after her defeat. They don't know anything about their hidden personas. They may turn into Four Stars if other evil force show up. And anypony minor or background can be one of them.
* [[Paranoia Fuel]]?
 
== Also related to the above. The four stars are Pestilence, War, Famine, and Death. ==
The four horses of the Apocalypse. They are working in secret to rally all those who are faithful to Nightmare Moon, and one day raise her again.
* [https://web.archive.org/web/20130105211112/http://www.aorange.com/?p=1137 You] [https://web.archive.org/web/20130105210808/http://www.aorange.com/?p=1145 mean] [https://web.archive.org/web/20131023094842/http://www.aorange.com/?p=1147 like] [https://web.archive.org/web/20130105211117/http://www.aorange.com/?p=1158 these] [https://web.archive.org/web/20121027234030/http://www.aorange.com/?p=1163 fillies?]
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIY41LrvMFQ My Little Pony, Apocalypse Pony, Punish mankind for their sins!]
 
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== The thing behind the creation of Nightmare Moon was also responsible for the destruction of whatever came before Equestria. ==
In keeping with the {{[[After the End}}]] theory, before Equestria another species, be it human or something else, controlled the planet. Eventually some evil force, potentially another species, came and destroyed "Equestria". At this point, the pony species were already evolving or were spontaneously mutating due to the weapons used by this evil force. Recognizing these new species, the current holders of "Equestria" created the Elements of Harmony to give the ponies one hope should the evil return. A considerable time later, the planet has regrown under the guidance of Celestia and Luna. Evil force returns, gets fucked when it finds everything happiness and rainbows. Somehow corrupts Luna into Nightmare Moon, but this plan of course fails. The stars that aided in Nightmare Moon's escape? This evil force.
 
== The Equestrian world is flat. ==
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Everfree Forest covers the land on which Celestia doesn't suppress the nature. An example would be the castle ruins from the second episode, which clearly used to be a part of Equestria, but was abandoned by Celestia, probably because of ill memories connected with that place.
 
== The collective [[Painting the Frost Onon Windows]] society that the ponies have in Equestria came about after the Princesses defeated Discord. ==
There are two ways this could work, either the Princesses decided to make everything as un-discord-like as possible meaning nature itself would be made to run on a schedule. The second is that before and after Discord's defeat the underlying reality of the kingdom had been stretched, damaged and chaotic that the ponies needed to "do things by hoof" so plants would grow, the sun and moon would move across the sky and the weather would be actual weather. It can be a combination of both points as well.
 
The end result is the present day where guiding nature is the [[Status Quo (band)]] and the Everfree Forest where nature can run itself is deemed creepy and just ''[[Eldritch Location|wrong.]]''
* It does make sense. We've seen a small taste of Discord's idea of "fun". Yes, candy weather is funny and tasty, but it'd also reek havok on the environment. We know Discord threw ''everything'' into chaos over 1000 years ago and doesn't give a darn about any kind of order, natural or otherwise. Probably before he appeared, nature worked fine, but after he showed up and threw everything into chaos, ''nothing'' made sense anymore. He destroyed natural order because it was order and he wanted chaos. And after his defeat, there was no way for the princesses to fix a great deal of what he'd done, so the only choice was for everyone to begin doing things themselves to have any semblence of natural order. It honestly sounds like something the [[Chaotic Evil]] Discord would come up with to do, doesn't it?
* Unless the history has gotten convoluted in the intervening years, "Hearth's Warming Eve" pageant explains that unicorns ran the day/night cycle, pegasi the weather, and earth ponies the crops and food, all before Celestia's rule.
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== The ponies no longer need to manage nature ==
Regardless of why they started in the first place, nature in the ''[[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic (Animation)|My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic]]'' setting can handle things like weather, animals, and the turning of the seasons on it's own. It's just that managing the seasons by hoof is so much more convenient that the ponies have gotten into the habit of doing it themselves.
 
== The whole REAL story behind Equestria ==
Equestria is a country, the planet it is on is very similar to [[Neopets|Neopia]], but the only sentient species are ponies of three(possibly four) races, dragons of several races, zebras, sea serpents, buffalo, Diamond Dogs, and griffons. The sea serpents, as well as sea ponies if they exist live in an underwater country very similar to Maraqua, zebras come from an island country similar to Mystery Island or a desert country on the other side of the Everfree Forest similar to The Lost Desert, griffons come from a country similar to Altador, Diamond Dogs come from an island similar to Krawk Island. Equestria is similar to Meridell mixed with Neopia Central, and buffalo are native to the far side of Equestria, and The Everfree Forest is similar to The Haunted Woods.
 
Two thousands years or so ago there was a land similar to Faerieland, Cloudsdale was once part of it, but was separated. The Faerieland like country was home to the Alicorns and Draconequi who lived in peace with each other. At this time no country had a ruler, and this cloud country was under famine. Discord created an inmortality potion, he, five other Draconequi, and six Alicorns, including sisters Celestia and Luna took it. They all left their homeland and the rest of the Draconequi and Alicorns soon died out, which caused the cloud land to disappear except for a town sized piece which floated over to Equestria and became Cloudsdale. Each country got two leaders, one Alicorn to control harmony, and one Draconequus to control chaos. Equestria got Discord and Celestia.
 
Luna was selected to be the Alicorn ruler of The Everfree forest. However the Draconequus who was chosen to rule with her had somehow been immune to the affects of the immortality potion and died from an illness. So she came back to her sister and they both tried to rule Equestria along with Discord. Before this, the cloud country was the only one inhabited by sentient beings, so the two rulers of each land created a species, buffalo had originally been created by Luna and her mortal Draconequus friend to inhabit The Everfree Forest, but when she came to help rule Equestria she brought the buffalo with her and they began to live on the far side of Equestria. Celestia and Discord had created the ponies, which came in three races, earth, unicorn and pegasi.
 
Because there were three rulers watching over two species, the sisters decided to take care of the buffalo and trusted Discord to take care of all three races of ponies(there was only one buffalo race, but there were about as many buffalo as there were all three pony races combined.) Over time Discord got bored and began to torture the ponies, and treat them like puppets. The sisters hated this so they created the Elements of Harmony which turned him into a statue. Because there was no Draconequus helping rule Equestria there was no chaos. This meant nature couldn't take care of itself in Equestia, so the sisters had to make the sun and moon appear here, and the ponies had to help change seasons, take care of non sentiment animals, grow all plants, and pegasi had to change weather on schedule.
 
It was right after Discord was gone that the sisters created cutie marks for ponies, when a pony was around tween age, and found something they were very good at, they received a cutie mark that represents it, and makes it what they must do for the rest of their life. This helped keep the ponies in harmony. Soon after Discord was statufied, Luna was naturally altered with the powers of a Draconequus, and was going to slowly turn into one, but Celestia banished her.
 
When Discord was temporarily free his powers had build up too long so it caused everything to go much crazier then it used too, and if he had been out long enough and learned to rule with Celestia again it would have smoothed out.
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* If the girl is [[Lauren Faust]] from when she was younger, then I'll agree with this 100 percent!
 
== The entire setting is the future of [[Peace Onon Earth]]. ==
In keeping with the "Equestria is Earth [[After the End]]" theory, either a cataclysmic conventional war or a nuclear holocaust (based on whether you're counting the 1939 or 1955 versions as canon), humanity was wiped off the face of the Earth, leaving the animals to emerge from their hidey-holes and take up residence in the former human dwellings and form a new society from its remnants ("Ye shall rebuild the old wastes", says the Bible-reading owl). Fast forward through a few millennia of animal-rule and [[The Magic Comes Back|the magic coming back]], and boom, you have My Little Pony. Equestria merely happens to be a settlement where horses are the dominant animals.
 
== It's [[All Just a Dream]]... ==
...Of a poor [[Real Life]] mare mistreated by her owner, made to live in squalor, perennially sick and dirty...
 
...Her only escape being her dreams of Equestria, a place where horses run free with no oppressive humans in sight, and she herself is a beautiful princess.
 
* This is probably one of the most depressing WMGs ever.
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* The strong emphasis on friendship and cooperation: While individual ponies are varied in temperament and personality, the main drive of pony society seems to be the development of one's character, and the importance of sharing and beneficial relationships with one another. Such a society is bound to have far fewer conflicts then, say, a society that is devoted to acquiring wealth and material goods, or one that believes it is their right to rule the world. While we have yet to see any direct examples of pony society laying out it's beliefs, it is fair to assume that Celestia encourages all ponies in her dominion to focus on friendship.
 
* Hints as to previous events in pony history: Based on Pinkie Pie's party cannon, as well as Rainbow Dash naming her pet turtle, "Tank," it is reasonable to guess that ponies are aware of instruments of war, which suggests that, at certain points in Equestria's past, there were armed conflicts using weapons of war. While the combatants in these conflicts are anyone's guess (pony vs. pony, pony vs. dragons, etc.) the mere mention of these items suggests that the history of Equestria is not as idyllic as it would first seem. One would think that the three tribes of ponies engaged in armed conflict, but considering the level of technology they seemed to posses, it would be reasonable to assume that they would use cannons, and were not technically advanced enough to use tanks, suggesting that there were armed conflicts with 21rst century weaponry between then, and the era of Twilight Sparkle and friends.
 
With the sun and moon being physically moved, the existence of magic, hints to a darker past in Equestria, and the drive for friendship and cooperation in pony society, the true nature of Equestria can be theorized as thus:
 
At some point in the far distant pass, all the nations/cities/etc. in Equestria were at war with each other, possibly due to pony society being in a state similar to many countries today (with the mindset to obtain wealth and material goods, and less on personal growth). As a result of the warfare and fighting, Equestria was devastated, possibly beyond it's ability to heal or be repaired, resulting in a wasteland in which little to no life could live. Celestia and Luna, being the only survivors of the royal family (theorizing that their parents had been killed in the conflict, which would explain their absence), saw the ruins of their kingdom, and realized that they could not return life to the planet. Thus, combining the might of their powers, they were able to create a pocket dimension, and created a copy of Equestria. The two worked to perfect it, creating weather, physics, etc. as well as the illusion of the stars and the universe, working hard to erase every trace and hint that could reveal to the ponies that they were living in a simulated reality.
 
During this time, Celestia and Luna also created the elements of harmony, intending to use them as a safety device, should either of them ever fail in their tasks, ensuring that there would always be a powerful force for good within the dimension.
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