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*** Well Jiraiya is a Kage level ninja he had more important things to do (getting info on another Kage level ninja Orochimaru and a Kage level "group" Akatsuki), it's only when Akatsuki starts going directly after Naruto that he decides to train him (before Naruto annoying him into teaching him how to walk on water, then he thought him summoning jutsu to defend himself a little since he was the Kyubi vessel) and Kakashi doesn't teach anyone who doesn't pass his test of approval.
*** Actually Jiraiya was Konoha's spymaster. He was too important to be chained to Konoha and raise a kid. He was needed on the field not only to keep an eye on Orochimaru and eventually Akatsuki, but against all other potential threats as well. Kakashi on the other hand doesn't really have an excuse as he could have been there and would have had help looking after Naruto if he had to go on a mission. Heck, Sarutobi himself could have adopted Naruto as he would have had help from not only Asuma, but Konohamaru's parents as well. Leaving Naruto to fend for himself is one of the biggest face palm -moments in the series.
*** I agree that leaving baby Naruto alone with no parental guidance/family etc was a bad move, but in the case of why Kakashi did not look after him, he does have a small excuse. When Naruto was born, Kakashi would have only been 14-1614–16 years old, and there is the chance that he was at the time, a bit of an emotional basket case (what with the memories of his father and Obito's death, and the recent death of his sensei). He may not have been capable of looking after Naruto full time, however he could have at least fostered some sort of relationship with him (as a friend or older brother figure even!)
**** Kakashi also entered into the ANBU sometime after Obito's death. Between his emotional state just after said fact and then becoming an ANBU, he has well enough of an excuse to not have been looking after a child.
* Why has it occurred to no-one to tell Naruto who his father is? Don't they think he might want to know - hell the kid was seriously depressed and acting out half his life - what's wrong with giving him someone to look up to?
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*** He resembles the former leader of the village, has the last name of the leader's wife, is an orphan, should be pretty obvious who he is, and has Jiraaya as his godfather, shouldn't that get them to be a bit nicer to him.
*** The common fanfic explanation is that the information is clasified to protect Naruto life, as being the son the yellow flash would surely put him on the to-kill list of at least Iwa. And even considering his similarities to the fourth (which in this tropers opinion is little more than eye and hair colour), a bit of sealing jargon by the third could easily make most ignore the similarities.
*** It's the human nature obscuring their vision - his name was not Namikaze, and thus any potential relations to Minato were instantly outed because "how could a daemon be related to one of the greatest ninjas ever". Yes, [[Humans Are the Real Monsters|Humans Are Bastards]], but that's hardly different from real life (other than the fact we don't have daemons and such), and it's proven that people are less inclined to search for additional information on someone they hate (even if they have no justification for that), because that would mean caring about the existence of the hated thing.
* Still, consider this. Nobody apparently made the plans to tell him at some point. Its like all those who did know were just sitting on their asses talking and reminiscing about Minato and Kushina without even thinking; "Hey wait a minute, we need to tell their son about them."
** Look no further than Tsunade and Jiraiya's last meeting before Jiraiya leaves for Amegakure. Jiraiya knew he might not come back, and as a last request he could have said: "Tell Naruto the truth," or even Tsunade or Kakashi could have taken the initiative on their own, (Remember that at this particular point its essentially common knowledge that Naruto has the Kyuubi, and that Akatsuki is after him, and he's now able to take care of himself).
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*** It's never outright stated that he doesn't know, but there's plenty of circumstantial evidence that he doesn't know. First of all, Naruto is probably the least subtle person ever. He'd probably be shouting from the rooftops, "My dad was the Yondaime and you guys better start respecting me!" Then there's the whole Tsunade deal where she basically insulted the Sandaime and Yondaime. Naruto never said anything about not disrespecting his father.]
**** That falls flat though considering how its common knowledge that Konohamaru practically runs around screaming "I'm the Hokage's" grandson, and yet nobody goes around chastising him for it.
***** That is because Konomoharu's extremely dangerous relative against whom people would hypothetically want vengeance is ''still alive''. (And of course by the time he actually dies, the cat is already out of the bag so moot point.) The reason young Naruto's true identity is a security risk is because people can not only kill him to get revenge on the Yellow Flash, they can do it without the Yellow Flash then immediately teleporting over to chainsaw murder their entire village in retaliation due to his currently suffering from a slight case of dead. Sure, every Hidden Village on the continent knows that that annoying kid is 'The Professor's' grandson. They also know exactly what Sarutobi will do to them if they start deliberately targeting him. Normal battlefield risks is one thing, deliberate political assassination of children is another thing entirely.
** Well considering how recently Naruto put on a longcoat very reminiscent of the Fourth's I wouldn't be surprised if Jiraiya told during the timeskip. Naruto had by then matured enough not to go on about it. He'd probably just feel sad from never knowing him...
** Moot point as of [https://web.archive.org/web/20110820163516/http://read.homeunix.com/onlinereading/index.php?image=Naruto/Naruto%2FNaruto%20c439/17%2F17.png=nas%3Dnas.html Chapter 439.]
*** It had been etsablished that Naruto kind of looked up to the fourth anyway, even after finding out the fourth sealed the kyuubi within him.
** I think the reason why he wasn't told he's the Yondaime's son was to avoid awkward questions about how the Yondaime got rid of the Kyuubi, which I'm sure Naruto would have been eager to know had he known he's the hokage's son. They couldn't have refused to answer, either, since he could say that as his son, he has a right to know.
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*** It is an explanation, true, but there is a hole in it still. Kiba wouldn't really care about Naruto for real because they were only ditching classes together, and his family's training would probably incline him not to associate with Naruto seriously because of his low strength. Shikamaru would be too lazy to care, too. But wasn't the Akimichi clan supposed to really care about their acquaintances, even if they weren't exactly friends? Unless that was an anime-only thing, that is (it was a long time since I've read the early chapters of the manga, and anime added a lot of things that don't exactly make sense).
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=== Naruto's Techniques and Abilities ===
* Naruto and how he learnt the mass shadow clone technique. Let's see, Naruto is presented to have low intellect, the jutsu requires a lot of chakra, and its forbidden (with the connotation of being [[Story-Breaker Power|lethal/godly/powerful]]). What intrigues me is Naruto just learnt this technique by simply reading a big scroll. So would all the forbidden techniques can be learnt at Matrix-download-speed just from a fricken' scroll??
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* How did Naruto's summoning of some clones,then dispelling them,give him some chakra back? It's explicitly stated at the very start that any energy used in creating the clones is ''lost''. Oh, and the first poster's very negative views of the main character and his rival just bug me. Most of the serious hardcore yaoi is timed in Shippuuden, whereas fluffy PG crap is pre-timeskip. She would also like to direct the poster to chapter 431. Yes, the impulsive retard taught Konohamaru the Rasengan, and is badass enough to earn his right to scream [[Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann|GATTAI!]]
** Naruto didn't actually teach Konohamaru the Rasangen, just some striptease or something with the Sexy no Jutsu, that Konohamaru used to teach himself the Rasangen, in less than a minute.
*** Yes he did. Konohamaru has a flashback where he remembers Naruto tells him he's going to teach him a jutsu and begins describing the various stages of the Rasengan training and Konohamaru, having only learned the sexy jutsu from Naruto assumes that it's a variation of that. It's explicitly stated ('I wonder what kind of pervy technique it is https://web.archive.org/web/20100728003755/http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/428/04/ )and starts imagining what it is. Naruto thinks he's being weird and says 'What are you talking about, this is a difficult A rank attack jutsu' or something like that.
**** Okay rereading that I'll withdraw my last statement.
** My understanding with Naruto's clones is that he divides his chakra out evenly among them when he creates them. If he manually dispels them, he can reobtain that chakra. If the clone is killed, he does not reobtain this chakra. But, knowledge/experience is transferred to Naruto from a clone in either situation. As to Naruto losing chakra during clone creation, he (the original) naturally regains it with time/rest, like stamina. So creating clone "chakra batteries" is plausible.
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**** It isn't at all noticeable compared to Sasuke's [[Super Speed]] and Sakura's [[Super Strength]] but Naruto's taijutsu improved a lot skill-wise. Compared to part 1 where he easily got overpowered by Kakashi to his performance again in Part 2 where he actually was able to hold his own against Kakashi. From what I figured Jiarya noticed Naruto's crappy Taijutsu and figured that since Naruto already had two strong offensive jutsu's he might as well improve his Taijutsu.
**** But two years to improve just Taijutsu? Okay, first, Naruto has huge chakra reserves, so it should make sense that Jiraiya should have trained him in ninjutsu more. Second, Naruto has been shown to be a quick learner when given the right motivation and teacher. Why didn't he improve all three jutsu aspects, instead of a barely noticeable just-one?
**** He did go from a crappy barely graduated genin taijutsu level to being capable of fighting on somewhat equal grounds with Kakashi taijutsu level. It's pretty noticable. He's just [[Overshadowed Byby Awesome]] because Sasuke and Sakura improved so much.
** He learned A LOT with regards to using his [[One-Winged Angel|Kyubbi powers]]. He can now go up to 4 tails, while before he could only use 1. Also at 3 tails he is still partially in control - compare this with Sora, who was a mindless beserker it at 1 tail. I know [[Super-Powered Evil Side|his 4 tailed form wasn't meant to happen]], but at 1 tail he was equal to Cursed Seal Level 2 Sasuke - factoring in Sasuke's improvement Naruto might then equal him with 3 tails. Also, it's subtle, but he uses the Rasengan more often - in part 1 he usually only used it once per fight, while in say, his fight against Itachi he uses it 3 times, and one was a uberpowered version. And as for his larger Rasengan, it's insanely powerful, and it's not Jiraiya's fault he only uses it once (or just found no relevent situations to use it in). Overall, he actually improved to about the same extent as Sasuke and Sakura.
** He did learn quite a lot, but the problem is that it was a misplaced training. Naruto learned something that was useful for him, but quickly became obsolete/too dangerous to use/something Naruto didn't want to use/whatever. Granted, what Naruto had learned was still too little, seeing as there were things he should've been taught then, but maybe Jiraiya decided that instead of teaching Naruto subtlety, it's better to give him a training that will reinforce his current, pure-power-based style of combat (which would be still a mistake, but understandable at least).
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**** It's not a surprice that Killer Bee was able to beat Sasuke with ease seeing how he's a shinobi veteran. It doesn't matter that Sasuke has the sharingan, is an Uchiha etc. He's still only 16 years old. Bee has got way more experience than Sasuke and is the hachibi's host aswell.
** It has octopus tentacles because it is an [[wikipedia:Ushi-oni|Ushi-Oni]], a creature of Japanese folklore that is basically a bull with sea creature parts.
*** Alternatively, it's just another [[Ranma One Half½|very tragic story]].
* How come Naruto used Kagebunshin - and not just any Kagebunshin, but Tajuu Kagebunshin - while in frilling Chakra Mode? Me thinks it was expressedly stated by the Hachibi that he shouldn't do that because the Kyuubi would suck his chakra dry in absolutely no time?
** Correction, what the Hachibi said is that Kage Bushins increase the rate the chakra can be consumed by the Kyubi. However, Naruto spent several hours training to see the limits of his mode, remember. And when he did Tayjuu Kage Bushin, he created what 12 clones. When he normally makes a hundred or a thousand.
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** Well, the jumpsuit is just his normal clothing, what he wears everyday anyway. Would you change your entire wardrobe just because you graduated middle-school? And the genin all wear casual clothing anyway, versus the higher ranked shinobi that wear the full uniform(with the vest and all.)
** Genin ninja and lower are not even suppose to go out on C missions and even if they did for exceptional reasons (post war crisis) they are accompanied by a Jonin (who could do a mission of that level alone). Chunin and Jonin do have to wear a uniform that blends with their regional surrounding (green for leaf village, white and light brown for the sand village, dark and bluish for the mist(water) village) then there are people like Jiraiya, Minato and Akatsuki who are so strong they don't need to worry about hiding and that in fact wear clothing that reveals their identity to others, most who stand back. That's also why I don't like the fillers sending Genin (youth) on dangerous missions who only survived due to plotjutsu.
** It's also a [[Shout-Out]] to [[DragonballDragon Ball]].
** The real question is, why do any of them dress distinguishably at all? Not only does the orange make him easy to spot, but it makes him easy to identify. In a world where every shinobi seems to have their own special ability, why would any famous ninja (i.e. Kakashi, or Minato) want their opponents to be able to identify them and thus be prepared for their attacks? Every ninja should be wearing the exact same hooded, masked uniform.
** Originally, all ninjas were supposed to wear masks, but Kishimoto found it too hard to draw expressions that way and it became only a few characters' (example: Kakashi) main feature.
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** Technically the stereotypcial "black ninja gear" sprung from Japanese portrayals of ninja in theatre. Ninja usually just wore normal clothing, which was what made them so terrifying - unlike the obvious samurai, the ninja could be ANYONE. So naturally, whenever Japanese plays portrayed ninjas... they dressed like the stagehands. Now, you'll notice that just about everyone dresses garishly in Naruto-land. So they're blending in just fine! ...and they can always stealth it up with, like, magic, I guess.
*** Actually ninjas did wear black, on night related missions, but they also wore whatever color or color pattern blended more with their environment, black got more popularize by the media because after all, black is cool, but imagine being on a snow field or a sandy field or in plain daylight wearing black, black is not an all time cover color, I'm looking at you Kankuro of the "sand" village (at least his puppets have the correct color).
**** Black isn't even the best color to wear on night missions; unless you are in ''total'' pitch darkness, can't-see-your-hand-in-front-of-your-own-face darkness, it still contrasts too much with even a dimly lit background. If you can't get an actual camouflage pattern, the best color to wear for night work is dark blue.
** Naruto's main techniques consist of creating multiple copies of himself (bad for stealth), making a bright swriling energy ball (very bad for stealth), and summoning a toad the size of a mountain (the exact opposite of stealth). I think it's safe to say he's abandoned the idea entirely.
** Also, orangutans are orange as well, and they are actually pretty well camouflaged in jungle terrain. And [[Fridge Brilliance|where]] is the village hidden in the leaves again?
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** Naruto's initial design had him wearing boots, but it was changed because Kishimoto likes drawing toes. Take that as you will.
* Why does the Naruto CCG classify Naruto as a Lightning-element ninja? He's been classified in-story as Wind-type.
** Someone's been playing too much ''[[Chrono Trigger (Video Game)|Chrono Trigger]]''?
** He wasn't classified until long after the CCG came out. They didn't have a clue what his element might be, so the gave him the element that most closely matched his hyper personality.
*** There's also the issue of balancing the elemental natures of the cards and getting them to work well together, in cases when some characters like Sakura have no determined elemental nature, and some elements are more common than others (for example, more than a few characters have Lightning affinity, but hardly any have Earth affinity).
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== Sasuke ==
 
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=== Sasuke's Revenge ===
* Wouldn't killing Sasuke end the cycle of revenge, seeing how there's nobody left who cares about him to avenge him should he ever die?
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=== Sasuke's Techniques and Fighting Abilities ===
* How does Sasuke expect to take on Kakashi in this latest setup? I mean, let's face it... He just offed Danzo. He's exhausted, while Kakashi is fresh. Even if Sasuke were to assume that Kakashi hadn't gotten more powerful over the three years since they'd last seen one another, why is he assuming that he can take out his former teacher? This isn't about revenge, either. It's not like his fight with Danzo or Itachi, where he went in with a strong emotional backing to want to push the fight to the limit. The sum total of Kakashi's offensiveness to him is Kakashi's association with Konoha. [[Wild Mass Guessing|I assume he's going to split]], because if he actually fights Kakashi at anything but a major disadvantage it'll be a huge [[Ass Pull]].
** Several reasons:<br />1 - He at least has some of his energy back from biting Karin, though admittedly not all of it.<br />2 - He has the stupidly overpowered Susanoo, which as far as he knows Kakashi has no hope of penetrating (just look at the effort it took Danzo to do it).<br />3 - Amaterasu fire eyes, which people can't really dodge (unless you're [[Memetic Badass|the Raikage]]).<br />4 - He's an over-confident, self-absorbed asshole who by this point thinks he's the greatest fucking thing on Earth. The ten-tailed beast could break out of the moon and he'd probably think he could win.<br /><br />As for the actual result, here's how I see it. First, he isn't going to run, not until he gets some blows in at least:<br />1 - He fights and loses, but either runs or Madara grabs him. It's not like Madara's that busy at the moment.<br />2 - He fights and wins, killing Kakashi, then Madara shows up to grab the eye. <s>Kubo</s> Kishi seems to be going to a lot of effort to make Sasuke a monster, and killing Kakashi would do it.<br />3 - He fights, nearly wins, but Kakashi is saved by Naruto. Then he retreats.<br />4 - Same as above but without the retreating, and gets his sorry ass handed to him by Sage-powered Naruto, as a reminder to both the author himself and the audience who the goddamned protagonist of this story is (admittedly, this is wishful thinking on my part).
 
As for the actual result, here's how I see it. First, he isn't going to run, not until he gets some blows in at least:<br />1 - He fights and loses, but either runs or Madara grabs him. It's not like Madara's that busy at the moment.<br />2 - He fights and wins, killing Kakashi, then Madara shows up to grab the eye. <s>Kubo</s> Kishi seems to be going to a lot of effort to make Sasuke a monster, and killing Kakashi would do it.<br />3 - He fights, nearly wins, but Kakashi is saved by Naruto. Then he retreats.<br />4 - Same as above but without the retreating, and gets his sorry ass handed to him by Sage-powered Naruto, as a reminder to both the author himself and the audience who the goddamned protagonist of this story is (admittedly, this is wishful thinking on my part).
*** When did Kubo become the [[Mangaka]]? Most likely result, in This Troper's opinion: Kakashi roughes him up, they both try to deal a killing blow, Naruto comes in and saves both of them, then Sasuke does something stupid and ''evil'', which gives Naruto all the reason he needs to beat the tar out of him. Then Sasuke pulls some hax and escapes, or Madara comes in and saves him.
**** Damn you Bleach and your author with a K-sound name! That could work too.
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=== Misc. ===
 
* When Sasuke meets Itachi the first time since the anime/manga started, he gives that speech. "In order to defeat you..." after which he charges up his Chidori. After charging up, though, he looks at Itachi, screams the last line of his speech, and his left hand ''[https://web.archive.org/web/20160109125242/http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/146/12/ pulls the collar of his shirt down]''. WHAT. THE. FREAK. That just took much of the awesomeness out of their meeting, since there is no reason why he'd want to do that. If it's to show his curse seal, that's on the back. This is just... odd.
** I figured it was either so he would be easier to hear or to keep the collar out of his face when he's charging.
** Fanservice? (I get the feeling that if it ''had'' been the curse seal, Itachi would have been really, really pissed off with Orochimaru. Like, 'I know you lack hatred, but I'm still killing whoever molested my foolish little brother.')
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** Oh, yes. I'm sure he'd be perfectly happy having his family dragged from the afterlife to become zombies bound to Kabuto's will, that doesn't sound incredibly disturbing even to a mentally sound individual at all! Also, Kabuto hasn't exactly been subtle about his intention to gut Sasuke and research his remains the next time he sees him; they're not allies, Madara sold Sasuke out to Kabuto in order to get Kabuto to work with HIM.
** As we saw with Deidera Kabuto doesn't HAVE to have control over the ninja if he doesn't want it. Also he presumably wouldn't have control over them if he was dead and it's been stated that killing him would not end the jutsu. I don't know how happy they would be about it or what other disadvantages there are to the Edo Tensai as it currently sits it wouldn't be a bad idea to bring back your best ninja and have them as the primary defense of your village. Can you imagine anybody taking out Konoha if it had immortal Uchias as the defense force. Especially if you keep it a secret that they are immortal?
*** One problem with that- he'd still need to sacrifice one person for each Uchiha he wanted to revive. Just who is going to be the sacrifice? [[PO Ws]]POWs? Congratulations, you just made Sasuke complicit in an atrocity that is going to prevent reconciliation from being viable.
 
 
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**** She's sixteen.
** One could say the same about Naruto.
* [[Fridge Logic]] moment: Discounting the vicious cycle angle, considering Sakura was bullied in her youth, why on earth is she so abusive of Naruto (at least earlier on; she is--foris—for the most part--gettingpart—getting better, though she's still dismissive and downright manipulative--ormanipulative—or so she ''attempts'' to be--atbe—at times)?! You'd think she'd have more empathy.
** People often like to bully the people they consider below them. It sucks, but they just take it as the natural way of life. I knew plenty of people in my school who were bullied by someone, only to turn and bully the kid that has an even more noticable flaw (for example, like stuttering) and considered below them. Also, keep in mind that Sakura was constantly trying to be one of the cool kids so Sasuke would like her (or did she like Sasuke because it was considered cool?), so since Naruto was the pariah, that made him a target for her.
** It is a Japanese thing. Sakura thumping Naruto is played for laughs. Notice she rarely does any serious damage to him. Moreover, she gets Flanderized in the anime and punches Naruto far, far more than she does in the manga. As for her behaviour towards him in Part 1, she's grown up a bit since then and is beginning to understand him.
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** Third option: as the saying goes, "There's old pilots, and there's bold pilots, but there ain't no old, bold pilots." They're old soldiers; they know their limits and what will get the job done.
*** Most of the fighting we've seen has shown the situational nature of any jutsu. Even if Kakashi remembers every technique he's seen, can use all of them, and has the understanding to apply them sensibly, he hasn't lived long enough to have experienced the kind of fight each one ''leads'' to. It could be the same reasoning which leads chess players to specialize in two or three opening combinations, even if they've studied a couple dozen. Kakashi's style is effective, and he does use his knowledge to predict what an opponent is likely to know for strategic or intimidation value (such as that copy-the-jutsu-before-it-starts trick he used on Zabuza). Given how intellectual his combat tactics really are, it might be very difficult to integrate random jutsu into his style... and certainly not a thousand of them.
** Keep in mind that Jiraiya has ''never'' been seen fighting at his true potential, against an opponent who seriously threatens him. His appearance during Destruction of Konoha is extremely brief, he's drugged by Tsunade at the end of Search for Tsunade, and Itachi and Kisame try deceptions and flee rather than directly fighting him, and he's off gathering intelligence about the Akatsuki for almost the entirety of part two. Itachi -- whoItachi—who is no pushover -- pointspushover—points out that if he and Kisame had tried to go toe-to-toe with Jiraiya, there would have been no doubt about the outcome. The Akatsuki leader, Pein, is supposedly going to attack Jiraiya soon in the manga, so we'll probably see the true extent of his abilities then.
*** That was what i was about to point out, we will be able to see his power soon. What worries me is that this is going to be [[The Worf Effect|a worf situation]] since he has already set up plans in case of failure and he doesn't know they know he is in the country. At the very least he can't ''win'' this battle.
*** He puts up a pretty damn good fight, and apparently manages to kill one? of Pain's 6 forms. We still have no idea what on earth those freaky eyes do, but Jiraya apparently knew something before his death, and sent off a messanger. Count me as confused.
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*** [[Most Fanfic Writers Are Girls]] lets them do MMF threesome shipping.
**** Other than aesthetic reasons, probably not, unless it just happens that kunoichi are better at medical ninjutsu and all the teams have to have a medic nin. As to why teams always have more males than females, I'd say chalk it up to [[Most Writers Are Male|good old fashioned sexism.]]
**** To quote [[Ghost in Thethe Shell|a certain other action anime]], "A system in which all the parts react the same way is a system with a fatal flaw." Sexist or not, the fact remains that most girls are still raised differently than most boys, so a lot of them end up with a thought process that's totally different. And as much as the two twelve-year-old males on a kunoichi's team may grumble about the "stupid girl who doesn't 'get it' or make any sense", the fact that she's on the team at all means that the administration takes into consideration the fact that successful brainstorming in a group is a hell of a lot easier when there's three people who think nothing alike in the first place; you've got the [[Cold Sniper]] guy, the [[Hot-Blooded]] guy, and a girl, who no matter what her personality seems to be able to keep the other two focused on the task at hand simply by telling them in various ways to get a grip. As for the reason we never see the reverse, if Naruto's class is anything to go by, a lot fewer girls attend the Ninja Academy than boys (probably due to over-protective parents - and considering what these kids get up to, can you blame 'em?). Plus, y'know... consider the personalities of the young lady genin. Can you imagine a productive team in the first season with both Ino and Sakura on it? Or Hinata and Ino? Or Sakura and Hinata?
***** Sakura and Hinata is plausible to this troper, especially with Sakura post-time skip. They could have some nice bonding scenes together.
***** You just know someone stole that line and used it to write a fanfic.
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=== Danzo ===
Danzo is desperate for power and control of Konoha. Okay. He's struggled for years, hidden out of sight, to develop the power and resources to take control when the time comes. Pretty standard fare so far. Except...he has a mind control eye. He has had a mind control eye for something like ''seven years'' by the start of the series. In all that time, did he never realize he could just walk up to the third Hokage and say "Sup, dude? You should totally work to make myme the Hokage from now on."
** It would be terribly inconsistent with the Third's known personality or what have you. He suddenly decides to elect Asshole [[Mc Douchebag]]McDouchebag as his replacement, even though he's passed the guy over ''twice'', first in favor of Orochimaru, then Minato. His jonin would say "Gee, that's sorta weird. Let's check to make sure he's not being genjutsued or anything. Plus, Shisui's eye jutsu isn't permanent, so Hiruzen would realize the second it was over that Danzo had put the wammy on him.
*** If Danzo could have gained the Hokage's seat at any point in time through his mind-control jutsu (even to the extent of fooling all the Kages) and the only reason anyone ever found out was because someone with a Byakugan had fought Shisui before and the fact that Danzo had a Sharingan was a secret, why didn't Danzo become the Godaime in the weeks it took for Naruto and Jiraiya to go on what was thought to be a wild goose chase to find Tsunade?
**** Because Ao found out only because he had a Byakugan eye implanted, and the Hyuga's are from the Leaf, he probably would had been found out, plus he was probably still making preparations with the Senju DNA since that's what made it possible to be used once a day instead of once every decade.
***** Why would there be a Hyuuga present when Danzo was influencing Homura and Koharu into making him Hokage? It only had to be done once and it's not like the Byuukagen allowed Ao to be check after the fact to see if someone had been manipulated by the Sharingan...which no one knows Danzo even has.
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* Is Orochimaru really dead?
** Given how we're not definitely told whether Sasuke managed to kill him before he completed the soul transfer, just given strong hints, the possibility of an "Orochimaru all along" reveal is strong.
** There's also Kabuto, whose body is being taken over by the piece of Orochimaru he implanted into himself. Not quite the same -- yousame—you'd be left with a copy with Kabuto's memories of ol' Snakey; natural ability only; none of the thousands of jutsus he's supposed to have learned.
*** And yeah,I thought that was strange and out of character for Kabuto too.
** The way i see it, Orohimaru is dead, his power and personality are infecting Kabuto, his abilities have been absorbed by Sauske.
*** I'm betting on alive. Look at the fifth panel [https://web.archive.org/web/20121127031346/http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/393/ here] to see the snake slithering away.
**** And then [https://web.archive.org/web/20100730122344/http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/394/03/ burning alive]...
*** While there hasn't been an update on Kabuto!Maru, Sasuke!Maru is definitely dead. At least he died by one of the few techniques that he couldn't master.
* Why didn't Orochimaru just have his arms amputated after Tsunade refused to heal them? They were causing him intense pain and he couldn't use them anyways.
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** The Brothers recovered from Sasuke "shaming" them like bosses, and would have accomplished their goal with very little trouble were it not for Kakashi stepping in again.
* Is it just me, or is the Fourth appearing in Naruto's mind remind this troper of Peter's battle against the Symbiode in The Spectacular Spiderman, when Uncle Ben appears in his mind?
** This kind of thing is pretty common in a [[Journey to Thethe Center of Thethe Mind]]. The key difference though, is that that Ben was a manifestation of Peter's memories, but the Minato that is appearing her is some remnant of his mind/soul the actual person left behind as Naruto has no memory of him and he's stated that he was always there as part of the seal and was happy to meet his son.
*** This troper is pretty sure that the Minato seen there is the real one, and that his soul was sealed with the Kyuubi's.
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=== The Senju Clan ===
* Whatever happened to the Senju clan? From what we've seen, it most likely consists of a grand total of three people. The Shodaime, the Nidaime, and one of Tsunade's parent. I doubt they managed to completely die off in less than three generations, and you'd think that Tsunade would remember the murder of her entire clan. Which means that, essentially, that the Uchiha clan's greatest nemisis was three guys. And only one of them could use mokuton jutsu.
** [https://web.archive.org/web/20100723195106/http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/399/06/ There were more than three guys.] But yeah, it doesn't make sense that such a powerful and important clan would disappear in less than 80 years. Maybe Kishi will tell us what happened to them later.
** I thought what happened to the Senju clan was that after the village was founded they split apart and are the ancestors of Konoha's current clans besides the Uchiha (and probably most of the village, unless they allow immigration). Though you're 80 years is a pretty short time for that to happen. Perhaps they disbanded as a formal clan at some point for some as of yet unknown reason to simply become the citizens of the village (non-clan members like Sakura, Rock Lee, Tenten, and Naruto), and the non-Uchiha clans were pre-existing and choose to join the village for stabler lives. Or may some combination of the two
*** Perhaps adding support to this we know that the Uzumaki clan was an offshoot of the Senju clan (the manga just says that they are related, but it also clearly calls Naruto a Senju, which could mean a few things, but probably means that the original Uzumakis and the Senju interbred to the point that all Uzumakis share Senju blood, though not the reverse).
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== Misc ==
* Okay, so Tayuya is apparently 38.2 &nbsp;kg. Sasuke is 43.5 &nbsp;kg. Tayuya is able to catch the barrel containing Sasuke in midair and also run through trees with it held in front of her. For just about 8 hours. And she still has enough power in her hands left to play the flute and wrestle with Shikamaru... How's that for superhuman strength?
** Dude, they're magic ninjas and that's hardly the most surprising thing we've ever seen anyone do in the series.
** Alternatively focusing chakra in ones limbs is a standard technique used by all ninjas explaining the many feats of strength we've seen, Sakura and Tsunade just use it to a much greater degree.
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**** Umm... An elemental system is supposed to be based on what happens when two elemental bodies/attacks/manipulations of EQUAL STRENGTH interact. I'm pretty sure your "powerfull enough" description means it would take the jutsu user in question WAY more power to use the obliterating lightning attack than the one who put the rock/earth object in its path.
**** The Magnetism bloodline limit would have made more sense if he had explained it as being, say, an elemental combination of earth and lightning. Running electricity through metal would create an electromagnet, so it would be fairly logical.
***** Being able to use two or more elements is a [https://web.archive.org/web/20090119222117/http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/316/07/ Kekkei] [https://web.archive.org/web/20090122115420/http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/316/08/ Genkai]. And is apparently the most common one.
** I don't get why fantasy seems to think that because something conducts electricity that electric attacks hurt it more. Think about lightning, when lightning strikes a lake the lake doesn't get hurt because it just channels the electricity into the ground, but when lightning strikes a brick the brick F*** ING EXPLODES! Thus supporting the theory that lightning beats earth
*** The amount of energy it would take to conjure said lightning bolt FAR outclasses what would be required to conjure the brick... Enough to make it more of a case of overpowering the elemental weakness rather than taking advantage of it.
**** Actually, the brick could be more advanced than the lightning bolt. Think about it: a lighning bolt is pretty much the most basic form of lightning you can get, but brick could be seen as a ''very'' advanced form of earth. In this way the scale holds true. If you think of a "blast" of ecah element the scale holds true e.g. If a blast of water hits a blast of earth, the earth would overpower it easily. Earth v. lightning: the earth would explode, as was said. It actually works for every element (except maybe wind v. lightning, but that's already plausable).
** To be fair, the whole 'Which Element Beats Which' thing is obviously done in order to preserve the balance between them all. Earth features most of the best defensive techniques, so only an element that can straight up overpower it, like Lightning, makes sense to be its counter really, otherwise it'd pretty much be a [[Game Breaker]]. Then of course, Water HAS to beat Fire. So you end up with pretty much two possibilities: 1. Fire->Wind->Lightning->Earth->Water~^ (Canon), or 2. Fire->Lightning->Earth->Wind->Water~^ (Not canon). Trouble is though, you don't tend to see anywhere near as many Lightning techniques as Fires ones in the story, so the 'Not canon' option I listed would result in Lightning users getting [[Curb Stomp Battle|Curb Stomped]].
** I myself thought that it's how it's used, take for example {{Pokemon}}''[[Pokémon]]'', water is weak to lightning because Pokemon are not ''made'' or water so they take the amplified lightning to their physical bodies, kinda why lightning was never used against sloth in [[Fullmetal Alchemist]], or how in [[Zatch Bell]] the lighting protagonist had a hard time fighting against the water enemy because she was savvy enough to never come into contact with the water that was electrified. In the Naruto universe Earth is used mostly as defense and the basic attacks are akin to the ones used by earhbenders in [[Aang The Last Airbender]], so it makes sense that it's weak to lightning, who's basic power is enhancing the piercing capabilities, a great example is Sasuke with Chidori, his lighting enhanced blade, his lighting spear attack, etc. this still poses the problem of why lightning prevents Deidara from activating his explosions.
* So how does wind trump lightning exactly?
* Okay I keep seeing a theory banded around as fact, the Sharingan "evolved" from the Byakugan. I don't remember that being covered in the Manga at all, so I'm a little confused as to where this came from. Is it an Anime deal, or did I just miss that page in the manga?
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** Sneezing in East Asian Culture was suspected to mean someone`s talking about you.
* Does the Transformation Technique physically transform you into a duplicate of the person you're copying or is it merely an illusion? I ask because this presents problems on both fronts: if it changes your body physically then this jutsu rates as one of the most horribly underused jutsu's in the entire series. Why would someone who was as weak at part 1 Sakura not go into battle with the physique of someone like Bruce Lee? why wouldn't this be a completely standard method of defence given its many advantages? (makes the entire battle in the Forest of Death during the Chunin Exam laughable as instead of just pathetically plopping to the floor when Kin Tsuchi grabbed her by the hair, she should have given herself a male body and actually ''punched'' Kin Tsuchi in the face). How about age? is Tsunade genuinely reducing her age by using her advanced form of this jutsu? because if she ''is'' what exactly was stopping Hiruzen Sarutobi, who is explicity stated to be as strong as Tsunade and weakened by age, becoming a young man in his fight against Orochimaru? and couldn't we take this concept further and say that someone who was ''truely'' powerful (for the sake of argument the 4th Hokage) couldn't he transform into Kakashi and use his Sharingan? If, on the other hand, it's simply an illusion doesn't that make it nothing more than a simple genjutsu? if Deidara can train his eyes to see through ''Sharingan level'' Genjutsu surely anyone above Genin should be able to see through a technique so simple a ''child'' can perform it.
** Neither. It does'nt just let you transform into a ''person'', it lets you transform into ''anything'',the only limit being the size of what you transform into. In other words, it's [[It Got Worse|even worse]]. Heck, Naruto transformed into a ''Rasenshuriken'' against Pain. It never actually hit, but still, how hard is jumping onto someone and transforming into an [[Anvil Onon Head|anvil]]? So the ''entire'' shinobi world is [[Too Dumb to Live]], for not using an Academy-Level technique, to its logical, ''beyond'' Kage-Level results.
** Assuming Sakura had turned into Might Guy or something during the Chunin Exams, she wouldn't have had any of his training or techniques, plus having to move around in a body she isn't used to. Not sure how much of an advantage that would have given her.
** It must be a physical transformation; otherwise Sasuke couldn't have thrown shuriken-Naruto like he did in the Wave Country arc (surely Naruto's not that aerodynamic naturally). But then, the fact that he knew it was really Naruto as soon as he grabbed the shuriken is evidence that the transformation does have limitations. Unfortunately, we don't know exactly what they are.
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* Was the manga always supposed to be written the way it was now? Looking at the early artbooks and such, it seems like it was supposed to have a completely different feel and plot. It seems like the manga changed midway when Sasuke left. Or was this all according to Kishi's plans?
** Well, this is Kishimoto's first big work. Everything is very rough in the first ten manga volumes, because as a starting manga artist with a huge storyline, it takes awhile for someone to get the hang of drawing so-and-so and to draw this body pose or movement like this. Looking at the early artwork, it was pretty simple and a little amateurish, but with time, Kishimoto stepped up to the plate and developed his own style. That's what happened; Kishimoto finally grabbed hold of his own style of manga drawing when the story was getting serious. Because it takes skill to properly execute the pages upon pages of future unavoidable skirmishes and plot development. If the art sucks, then the story, no matter how good or well-thought out, will suck.
* Ino's eye color. [[Blue Eyes]] or [[Green Eyes]]? The anime has her with blue, and originally the manga did too, but in mid Shippuden (manga-wise) they changed to green. [http://images.wikia.com/naruto/images/3/3f/Ino_Yamanaka_Part_2.png Blue]{{Dead link}} to [http://images.wikia.com/naruto/images/f/fc/Yamanaka_Ino_at_the_war.png weird]{{Dead link}}, glowy [[You Gotta Have Blue Hair|green]].. Why do her eyes have a glow effect now anyway?
* I understand that Gai and Lee commonly refer to themselves as "The Green Beast" in the anime, and are often shown to wear green in the colored pictures that come in the manga. So why does Lee call himself "Blue Beast" in the manga? I think Gai does it earlier, too. Is this some strange translation error?
** Green is sometimes referred to as blue in Japanese. In traffic lights, for example.
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