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=== This is a page for wild mass guesses from the series ''[[Naruto]]'' which have been [[Jossed]] by the series or [[Word of God]]. If a WMG on one of the [[Naruto
''Please add new Jossed entries to the bottom of the page''.
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== Kurenai will have twins of opposite genders ==.
Doesn't seem that far-fetched to me. Seems like something Kishi. would pun.
* According to [[Word of God]], her child will be a girl.
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*** But that's just it. So far the Gedo Mazo has shown only a two abilities, stealing souls (when Nagato summoned it against Hanzo) and acting as a bijuu pokeball. You're trying to turn it into a time machine when such a thing has never been implied. It's also been stated that it's the act of removing the bijuu that kills the jinchuriki, hence why the Sanbi was loose in the wild and Yagura is nowhere to be found.
*** Okay, the part of where it was stated that the act of removal kills the jinchuriki is something I didn't see. So X that part of it out. As for Gedo Mazo being effectively a time machine, that's just my way of tying up the plot thread of where the Juubi came from up. There's really nothing left to substantiate that part of the WMG other than the lingering plot hole. It most easily explains why the Juubi comes from nowhere: It just appeared out of nowhere / the future.
**** The Juubi did not come out of nowhere just in time for the Sage to "stop it." Madara: [https://web.archive.org/web/20140421012540/http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/chapter-467/page015.html "As the man who freed the world from the terrible Juubi, the Sennin was worshipped like a god by the people."] Unless something has been lost in translation, this very heavily implies it had been around for a long time before the Sage came along. This whole theory rests on a plot hole that is not a plot hole.
**** The implication was understood and accepted. The Juubi had been around for a while. However, unless the Juubi is some form of a primal force of the Naruto-world that has always been, it can easily be changed to say that the Juubi did NOT appear ''just to fight the Sage'', but Juubi/Madara instead appeared earlier. The Plot Hole of where exactly the Juubi came from is still present.
**** You just provided a perfectly good answer right there. The Juubi being a primal force that has always existed or even that it came from Hell/another dimension/space/the evil in people's hearts/what have you a long time are much simpler and more likely explanations than this convoluted theory that tears down a lot of established canon.
**** Even if the Ten-Tails's origin is never explained [[You Keep Using That Word|that literally is not what "plot hole" MEANS]]; unless some part of the plot flat out ''contradicts'' some other one it isn't a plot hole, it's just [[What Happened to
**** A Plot Hole is a point in the canon that contradicts itself, as you said. It goes against what we know (or has been outright stated) about the powers of the Tailed Beasts so far who, as mere ''descendants'' of the Juubi, are massive threats to the villages, to say that their powers-combined Juubi form didn't/couldn't destroy the world. If the Juubi couldn't destroy the world, then it's at the very least poor and inconsistent writing. If the Juubi didn't destroy the world, then it's pretty powerful evidence that it was not around long enough to do so... the Sage was the creator of ninjas.
***** All right, let's assume for a second it was strong enough to destroy the world, or even just strong enough to wipe out humanity. There's nothing to suggest it had the intelligence to put its power to that kind of use. The only instance of a tailed beast attacking a village that we know of was the Kyuubi attack on Konoha, and that only happened because Madara forced it to do it. The Sanbi was out in the wild for some time, years likely, but there's no evidence it actually attacked anything in that time. The way I see it, it's much more likely that it was a roving natural disaster (as suggested by another troper above). Sucks if it happens to walk on your village, but it's not going to affect you if you're on another continent or if it's out in the unihabited wilderness.
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== Sakura will gain some Super Special Awesome Clan Power ==
Think about this. EVERYONE in the Naruto world - or at least a good portion of them, and the Konoha 11 - has some powers that come descended in the family. The Yamanaka clan has the Mind-Switch Jutsu, the Nara clan has Shadow Possession, and Rock Lee has epic determination (The fact that he was born WITHOUT any ninjutsu at all indicates he may have some super special powers he can't use), Choji's clan has the Expanding Body tech, Kiba's clan has all their dog jutsu, the Aburame clan has the bugs, the Hyuugas have the Byakugan, Ten-Ten has her special Twin Dragons and the Uchiha of course have the Sharingan. And everyone who doesn't have some special ability from their family has something living inside of them or has invented their own technique. Naruto has the Nine Tails. Sakura is the only 'normal' member of the 11. It would be incredibly strange that Sakura woudn't have one, especially as she's part of the Konoha 11. What if the Haruno clan has some special ability that can only be awakened under certain circumstances?
Naturally, this ability will be revealed when she confronts - and is nearly brutally murdered by - Sasuke. She will then discover this power and kick some serious ass.
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Yes, assuming Sakura ''has'' betrayed the village, Naruto will probably fight both Sasuke and Sakura to take them back.
Unfortunately for Naruto, since two Sannin apprentices vs. one will be a bit much, even given his recent [[Took a Level
Then Hinata will arrive and side with Naruto, causing it to split into A) Naruto Vs. Sasuke, and B) [[Designated Girl Fight|Hinata vs. Sakura]].
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== The man who claims to be Madara is really Izuna ==
When Kabuto {{spoiler|threatened him with a certain body}} it was {{spoiler|the ''real'' Madara}}. In Itachi's version of Madara's story [https://web.archive.org/web/20140420230527/http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/chapter-386/page008.html we only saw Madara take out Izuna's left eye and use his Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan with his left eye], while the mask only shows "Madara"'s ''right'' eye and the part of his face which he showed would be indistinguishable since they're brothers. We saw Izuna losing both and Madara using both in ''his'' flashback, but consider we already knew he was lying about causing the 9-Tails attack he could have been lying about that as well. So it's possible that Izuna only lost his left eye, lived on until Madara died, then took his right eye from his corpse, giving him half the Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan (and probably couldn't take back his own eye for whatever reason). Thus explaining why "Madara" only shows his right eye because he only ''has'' his right eye.
* Unless Kishimoto is a [[Lying Creator]], this would be {{spoiler|false, as Izuna is stated to have died in battle according to the Third Databook.}}
** {{spoiler|Well, he's already "died" and remained alive even if he really is Madara. Plus, it could be interpretted as "[[Killed Off for Real|Izuna is dead]]" or "[[That Man Is Dead|'Izuna' is dead]]".}}
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== Naruto's going to become Hokage thanks to Danzo's stunt at the Kage Summit. ==
Because Danzo {{spoiler|used his stolen Sharingan to manipulate Mifune}} the other countries will complain to the Fire Daimyo. Once suspiscion of Danzo {{spoiler|controlling the Daimyo to become Hokage}} is raised, he'll likely be booted from his position. Since Kakashi won't be recognized by the other countries out of concern for his Sharingan, Naruto will be given the position as the best available candidate.
** Unfortunately, Naruto's probably not well suited to handling the Day-to-Day work necessary for being Hokage, like Paperwork, and Konoha. When this comes out, Shikamaru will wind up Hokage, since he's the only character who stands a chance at actually running a village.
* {{spoiler|Tsunade woke up from her coma and took back the position.}}
== Tsunade will give her life to resurrect Nagato... ==
So he can defend the Hidden Rain from Danzo's attempt to destroy it. This is mostly rooted in this from chapter 449: https://web.archive.org/web/20100727161629/http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/449/05/. Old Elder Frog clearly states that both Naruto and Nagato were the Children of Prophecy to lead the revolution in the Ninja world. If that was so, was Nagato's sacrifice part of it, or is there something else? Kishi's just put Tsunade into a coma, allowing Danzo to take over Konoha, if not politically then by force, due to {{spoiler|recent events at the Confrence of the Five Kages}}, so it wouldn't make sense if she just pops out of the coma, and takes over Konoha again just like that.
== Kushina moved to Konoha because she was persecuted in the Whirlpool Village. ==
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Cause honestly who else could scare the shit outta Madara and Sarutobi?
** Damn near proven, considering Minato is the only person we've seen actually hit Madara '''on-panel''' at this point (Hashirama Senju doesn't count). Given that Madara can control space-time and phase in and out of attacks, it wouldn't be surprising if Madara shit his pants upon seeing Minato being called upon by Kabuto.
** But Minato's soul's been offered to the [[Buffy-Speak|death god... thing]] that appears during the dead demon sealing technique, and the Third Hokage said that [[Deader Than Dead|souls consumed by that can't be resurrected]]. Of course, [[Took a Level
* No, he's been consumed. I doubt even kishi would bypass a rule like that.
* It turned out to be the {{spoiler|real Madara}}.
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EDIT: Why did he choose to use the Yondaime as the gift's avatar? I would guess to obfuscate his involvement, or possibly so that Naruto could know who his father was and think well of him (an earlier theory posited that Itachi, while dying, pretended to be a caring older brother to Sasuke one last time - the whole poking his forehead bit - as he took pity on Sasuke in his last moments; Itachi seemed to know he was not long for this world. Perhaps this choice of incarnation served as an analogue to that act of pity)
* [https://web.archive.org/web/20140420230606/http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/chapter-439/page016.html Minato didn't appear sooner because he designed the seal so that he wouldn't appear until Naruto reached the eight tailed state.]
** the theory acknowledged the stated explanation - but the point of this is that ''it makes no sense to do that''. Disregarding the likelihood that such a mechanism would be harder to create in the seal (it seems more complex than a simple presence), it hinders Minato's objective of having Naruto master the Kyuubi's power and preparing to beat Madara. Someone with the apparent planning to put in a failsafe would be better served by simply having that sentience ''be'' there.
* Jossed: Completely unrelated.
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Madara should have had no idea that Sasuke would win - Orochimaru hid from Akatsuki and it's unlikely that Sasuke would have gotten much training for Kirin in afterward. And Itachi is likely Kage-level... so why should HE be the underdog?
Now I know that Zetsu said it was due to the Sharingan - lacking any other explanation, that's the only thing he could think of. But with Madara being a century (centuries?)-old immortal with a lifetime of pre-village training behind him, isn't it more likely (or at least more awesome - this IS WMG after all) that Madara ensured Sasuke's victory?
(PS. As to why he would do this, Sasuke has been shown to be really easy to manipulate. Also, were Itachi to win, he'd also have the Eternal Mangekyou... and that would be too much an issue.)
* Madara had to have known that Itachi was no longer taking his medicine to counteract the effects of the Mangekyou Sharingan and we know that he knew Itachi would never actually kill Sasuke. Itachi didn't want to win, so there's no way he could have won.
** This theory follows the theory that Madara was lying about Itachi's motivations... probably should have stated that.
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He is also the real leader of the Akatsuki, Madara was an illusion (which would explain his intangibility). Itachi was the real winner of the Sasuke-Itachi fight, he faked his own death and then put Sasuke into a genjutsu. He then fed Sasuke a completely bogus story about how the Konoha leaders were responsible for wiping out the Uchihas and how he, Itachi, was really a good guy, driving Sasuke into even deeper despair (he's just "killed off" his beloved brother, fellow Uchiha, one of the series' biggest [[The Woobie|woobies]], how would you feel?). This was all in order to manipulate Sasuke into achieving Itachi's true goal, which is to destroy Konoha.
* But, why didn't he just order Akatsuki to destroy Konoha? Hell, Deidara could've done it easily.
* He could need the rest of them to do something else, maybe the Tailed Beasts collection will be important for something else later. Alternatively he's doing all of this specifically to screw with Sasuke.
* Itachi has been confirmed dead due to being revived by Edo Tensei.
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