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{{quote|''But Jesus said to them, "Only in his hometown and in his own house is a prophet without honor."''
|[[The Bible|Matthew 13:57]] the official [[Trope Namer]].}}
When [[Germans Love David Hasselhoff]] is applied to the protagonist in his world.
So you've saved the universe many times, taken down many multi-dimensional threats, and have generally done lots of good stuff. [[
At least, in places other than the town or world you came from.
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Note that this does not apply to heroes with a [[Secret Identity]]. Their normal persona maybe be unknown, but their alter-ego is clearly famous to the locals. However, a [[Superhero]] who is looked down upon in their hometown, but is widely regarded as a hero everywhere else, does count.
The temporal version of this trope is [[Dead Artists Are Better]] or [[Vindicated
Compare [[All of the Other Reindeer]], [[Ungrateful Bastard
{{examples|Examples:}}▼
== Anime and Manga ==
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* X-Men from [[Marvel Comics]]. Now worldwide famous; their every move on the news. Known for general superheroics, hated for being mutants. Massive protests right on their front gate all the darn time.
* Spider Man still can't catch a break from J. Jonah Jameson at the Daily Bugle.
* Guy Gardner, Kyle Rainer, John Stewart, and Charlie Vickers are all legendary members of the [[Green Lantern|Green Lantern Corps]]. They are clever, they are capable, they are fearless, and they have all saved countless millions of lives across the Galaxy, including many of their fellow Lanterns. Despite this, the general opinion of humans among the alien members of the Corps begins at "uncouth, primitive barbarians" and descends from there. [[Heroic BSOD|Hal Jordan]], [[Heroic Team Revolt|on the other hand]], [[Face Heel Turn|isn't appreciated by the other Lanterns]] [[Welcome Back, Traitor|for entirely different reasons]].
== Film ==
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* Humorous example in ''Zoolander'': Though he's a successful fashion model, the title character gets no respect in the mining town he grew up in. Especially after claiming he has black lung... after maybe a few hours of mine work.
* ''[[The Hebrew Hammer]]'' saved Hannukah from an evil replacement Santa. His mother complains because "it's not even one of the High Holidays!"
* One of the stories in [[Heavy Metal (
* This isn't a saving-the-world example, but in Miss Potter (about Beatrix Potter, who wrote and illustrated children's books) her family never took her painting very seriously, her mother especially (she persisted in scoffing at it even after Beatrix's work was published); so much so that at one point rather late in the movie, when Beatrix is buying a house, her mother disapproves and frets about how she'll pay for it. Her father dryly points out: "Our daughter is famous, Helen. You're the only one who doesn't know it." And she continues to not know it for the rest of the movie.
* In ''[[Million Dollar Baby]]'', despite becoming a rising star in boxing, Maggie is told by her selfish and money grubbing white trash family that back home "everyone is laughing at her". After Maggie had just offered her mom a ''house'' (which she rejected, since it endangered her welfare and Medicare benefits).
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* ''[[Harry Potter]]'' certainly counts, as he grew up in the [[Muggles]]' world where he's practically unknown. A sharp contrast to his celebrity status in the world of wizards.
* In ''[[The Hobbit]]'',
** Bilbo Baggins participates in events of legend, then comes home to learn they've declared him legally dead, sold his house and don't believe a thing he's got to say.
** Similarly, in ''[[The Lord of the Rings]],'' Bilbo's nephew Frodo carries the [[Artifact of Doom|One Ring]] across half of Middle-Earth at great cost to his body, mind, and soul, destroys the [[Evil Overlord]] and ends the endless battle between good and evil, but when he returns to the Shire, his cousins Merry and Pippin are the ones who get the respect, due to becoming warriors and leading battles against the brigands who had taken over the Shire.
* In the ''[[
* In the famous [[Sherlock Holmes]] pastiche, ''The Seven-Percent Solution'' has Holmes and Watson in Germany with Sigmund Freud pursuing a villain. During the chase, the German police meets them and immediately announces that the constables are to be put at Holmes' disposal to catch the criminal and the Detective quietly mutters "No prophet is accepted in his own country."
* [[Mercedes Lackey]]'s ''[[Heralds of Valdemar]]'' series:
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** ''By The Sword'' features another example: the story of "Kerowyn's Ride" achieves remarkably widespread popularity across a number of countries, but the events of the eponymous ride - in which tomboy Kerowyn set out to rescue her younger brother's fiancee after her home was attacked, her father killed, her brother gravely injured and his fiancee kidnapped - are a source of some embarrassment to the rest of that end of her family. It's not good when your older sister has to rescue your bride for you, after all.
* The above Talia's story resembles Menolly's story in Anne McCaffrey's ''Dragonsong'', wherein the protagonist is a girl who dares to perform and even compose music in a fishing village of a practical and pragmatic (and repressive) sort. In the course of the novel, Menolly injures herself cleaning fish, and her own mother deliberately stitches her palm up wrong, crippling her hand so she can barely perform routine household tasks (making her even more despised), let alone play any instrument. Meanwhile, the Master Harper Robinton and his faithful have been searching for the "anonymous" author of the fine music mailed to him by a rural harper, and take her away from all that to make her as much a star as a Medieval setting permits.
* In the [[Young Wizards]] books, wizardry has to be kept a secret. So after saving the earth and {{spoiler|''relighting the sun while rewriting who the Lone Power is so he is can be redeemed''}}, Kit and Nita go back to school to get bullied. Granted, they can stop the bullying now but... Later, in the fifth book, Nita at least is still without friends at school
* [[A Dog of Flanders]] by British author Ouida takes place in Flanders, Belgium. But both in Great Britain as in Belgium this children's novel is totally forgotten and not popular at all. In Japan, however, it's a massively successful children's classic.
* In the Russian book series ''[[Alice, Girl
== Live Action TV ==
* ''[[
* ''[[Stargate SG
** Cameron Mitchell returns to his hometown for one episode. While no one thinks he's evil or a criminal or anything, no one really knows what's going on at the SGC, and they basically remember him as the football player who came back with a weird girlfriend and is the reason they all have to sign confidentiality agreements.
** This happens a bunch in the [[Stargate Verse]], since they can't tell anyone about their planet/galaxy-saving adventures. Before Jacob Carter becomes a Tok'ra host, he disparages Sam's work with "deep-space radar telemetry" and tries to get her into NASA. Similarly, when [[Stargate Atlantis|Rodney McKay]] returns to Earth for a scientific presentation by an old colleague, he is repeatedly criticized for not publishing in a couple of decades since no one knows about all his top-secret work with the Stargate program.
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== Mythology and Religion ==
* [[Older Than Feudalism]] examples from ''[[
** In Matthew, Jesus goes back to Nazareth, where he grew up. His frigid reception causes him to [[Lampshade]] this trope. ''But Jesus said to them, "Only in his hometown and in his own house is a prophet without honor."'' Things don't go so well, because, honestly, how seriously would you take your old neighbor if he suddenly showed up after years of living out of town, going on about how he's the son of God and the new age is at hand?
** In the long run, averted: Christianity eventually became the dominant religion in
** Also, to this day, Nazareth itself is just under 32% Christian, making it one of the largest if not the largest Christian population in all of [[Israel]].
* Just like Jesus, [[
* The majority of India did not take after Siddhartha's message, either, but he was very popular in most other areas of Asia.
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* In ''[[Secret of Mana]]'', the Boy is banished from his hometown after the residents learn he has disturbed [[Only the Chosen May Wield|the Sword in the Stone]]. Though possibly recognized as the [[Chosen One]], the elder correctly deduces that trouble will inevitably follow him around. He remains exiled even after becoming a hero, but at least he's allowed back in during the ending.
* In ''[[Fallout]]'',
** The Vault Dweller, having saved the area from a BBEG and saved his vault in particular with the recovery of the water chip, is promptly banished from his vault forever because he's been changed too much by the outside world.
** Returned to in Fallout 3, in which the Lone Wanderer (optionally) rescues the vault and is then kicked out because the residents unfairly blame him/her for the problems existing in the first place (with a [[Call Back]] to the speech in the original ''Fallout'' to boot).
* ''Zelda''
** Link suffers from this in at least one installment of the series. In ''[[The Legend of Zelda:
** This gets worse in ''[[The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
== Webcomics ==▼
* ''[[Tales of the Questor]]'': Despite impressing the notables in the big city and in the swamp territories, Quentyn's hometown of Freedom Downs considers his chosen calling as a Questor a joke and can only see the bad side of his successful adventures. However, when the town is threatened to be repossessed because of an old debt concerning an old Questor's abandoned quest, Quentyn volunteers to resume it to cancel the town's debt even though he may never be able to see home again. The town, stunned at this sacrifice, finally realize that their current Questor is a hero and hail him as such.
* [
* [[Erfworld]]'s Sizemore the [[Dishing Out Dirt|Dirtamancer]] is something like "rockstar" in the Magic Kingdom, where all the other magic users appreciate his abilities and willingness to lend a hand to anyone. Back home in Gobwin Knob, his boss refers to him "as the shit guy" and his job is basically taking everyone's waste and making terrible smelling golems out of it. He starts getting more respect at home once Parson takes over as Chief Warlord, but that comes at the cost of his popularity in the Magic Kingdom (as more and more people become unwilling to associate with him due to his side's actions and expansion)
* ''[[Schlock Mercenary]]'': Schlock is considered an abomination by other carbosilicate amorphs on his home planet, due to the peculiar circumstances of his "birth" resulting in [[Ambiguous Innocence|an adult specimen lacking the necessary intellectual maturity to develop a proper moral compass]]. He got recruited by Tagon's Toughs at a time when they only accepted humans, and has since fit nicely in the crew; although his immaturity makes him hard to work with at times, he is on good terms with grunts and officers alike.
== Western Animation ==
* In the live-action TV movie of ''[[
* In the ''[[Shadow Raiders|War Planets]]'' series, Graveheart is the leader of the Alliance, brave, honorable, and has largely saved the day on more than one occasion. However, he was declared an exile by the leader of planet Rock (his home planet) and remained banished despite being a decorated (if retired) soldier and having destroyed two Beast armadas that had managed to invade the planet after his exile. He only is allowed to officially return at the end of the series {{spoiler|after the ''new'' leader of Rock, his ''girlfriend'', pardons him}}.
* In ''[[Transformers Animated]]'', Optimus Prime and his crew, although they became heroes to the people of Earth for defending them against criminals and the Decepticons, are in fact deemed outcasts on Cybertron due their initial position as a [[Almighty Janitor|Space Bridge repair crew]]. This changes, however, once they return to Cybertron as heroes after defeating [[Big Bad|Megatron]], returning the [[McGuffin|Allspark]], and saving the stolen protoforms.
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* Irish people tend to be like this with their own culture, particularly from the mid-nineties onwards and especially with Irish cinema. It's only after something has started to be popular abroad that they're willing to admit they like it. The films ''[[Once]]'', ''[[The Secret of Kells]]'' and ''Zonad'' were each seen by about ten people and a stray dog on their original releases, and only started to receive any attention after they earned raves abroad. This may have something to do with the way British media dominates there.
* The Argentinean soldiers who returned from the Falklands' war suffered from this, in one of the most degrading demonstrations of hypocrisy and ungratefulness from the same society they came. Said society was brainwashed and manipulated by the Corrupt Government of that era, anyways, but the ungratefulness and hypocrisy are still there.
* ''[[
* [
* Variation with [[
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* Former [[Canadian Politics|Canadian Prime Minister]] Pierre Trudeau
* Singer Anastasia is much more popular in Europe and Asia than her native America, so much so that you'd probably be hard-pressed to find someone in America who's heard of her.
* The British Prime Minister [[Margaret Thatcher]] is internationally respected as an important stateswomen. [[Time Magazine]] even listed her among the most influential people of the 20th century. In the United Kingdom however she is hardly popular at all and even hated by most of the Britons. Her government is not held in high esteem compared to other British Prime Ministers. In a list of the 100 Worst Britons she was number 3 (compare this to her position in the list with 100 Greatest Britons: 16).
** YMMV. Plenty of people around the world regard Thatcher as badly as most Britons. Arguably worse.
* The same goes for [[Mikhail Gorbachev]], who is internationally respected for his reforms in the former USSR, which brought the [[Cold War]] to an end. Yet in Russia itself he is not held in high esteem because the poverty rate of his country didn't diminish after the USSR fell. And some older Russians feel that they lost a their global greatness after the mighty Soviet Union collapsed.
* During the 1970s, 1980s and 1990s [[Benny Hill]]'s comedy shows were an international hit due to the risqué bathroom humor and absence of any dialogue. In his home country England his comedic talent was never met with much respect and most Englishmen were even embarrassed by his popularity.
* Famed Japanese film director [[Akira Kurosawa]], up until his death, was [[Germans Love David Hasselhoff|far more popular and acclaimed in the West]] than in his native country and was even accused by Japanese film critics of being "too Western". When ''Dodes'ka-den'' bombed in 1970, most of his small amount of Japanese popularity and acclaim vanished completely and he was considered to be a hack that was beloved in the West for what Japanese critics believed was mere exotica and [[Hype Aversion|over-rating by their American counterparts]]. After his death, [[Vindicated
* Dante Alighieri was Florence’s [[Butt Monkey]] (
* Likewise, James Joyce is celebrated in Ireland today as a national hero. For most of his life, however, Ireland regarded him as persona non grata.
* As an Anglo-Irish singer-songwriter (albeit born in Buenos Aires), [[Chris De Burgh]] was generally never popular in the UK (or in the US), other than a few hits such as "Don't Pay the Ferryman" and "The Lady in Red", which both gained exposure on [[MTV]]. He has, however, long been popular in mainland European countries, especially in Norway, as well as in Brazil and [[Germans Love David Hasselhoff|in Iran]].
* While [[Your Mileage May Vary]] on if he qualifies as a hero, [[Whale Wars|Paul Watson]] is not liked in many parts of Canada. Especially the seal-hunting areas.
* While ''[[Hercules (
* [[Donald Trump]], who lost his home state in both Presidential elections, seems unwelcome in New York City post-Presidency. [https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ny-donald-trump-six-years-escalator-20210613-dlo4u37b5zh2da7mfy3tmq7pey-story.html Many New Yorkers are calling for his arrest, or at very least, telling him to stay away.]
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