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* ''[[The Three Musketeers (Literaturenovel)|The Three Musketeers]]'' only say "All for one and one for all!" ''twice'' in the original books; most adaptations have them saying it all the time. Then again, [[Informed Attribute|they do claim it is their motto]].
* ''[[Don Quixote (Literature)|Don Quixote]]'' is well-known for being an idealistic fool in a cold grey world, a laughingstock and [[Butt Monkey]]. As a result, there's a huge [[Misaimed Fandom]] that sees him as an ideal to strive for even if he can't win. The original Quixote ''was'' an idealistic fool, but it wasn't his entire character. Both the [[Misaimed Fandom]] and the people who laugh at him forget that he was also an unsympathetic snob, who used his "knighthood" as an excuse to not pay for things and to bully his social inferiors, especially Sancho. Part of why he isn't remembered this way is the ''[[Man of La Mancha]]'', which emphasized his foolish idealism a lot more. ("Dream...the impossible dream...")
** Not exactly. In the first part of the novel, [[Don Quixote]] characterization is [[Lord Error-Prone]]. [[Misaimed Fandom]] insisted to see him as the [[Mad Dreamer]]. So Cervantes explore [[Unbuilt Trope|all the ramifications of the trope showing how everyone wants to be with the]] [[Mad Dreamer]]… [[Humans Are Bastards|to mock him mercilessly]]. At his death, Don Quixote becomes [[Bored Withwith Insanity]] and laments that he is going to being remembered as a mad fool. [[Man of La Mancha]] is a mere [[Derivative Work]] that [[Lost in Imitation|completely misses the point of the original work’s conclusion, but reproduces the Misconception of Romantic times applied to Don Quixote]].
** In the first part of the novel, Sancho Panza has several scenes enjoying food and drink to show his easygoing nature. When Avellaneda [[Fan Fiction|published his own second part of the novel]], he accused Sancho of being a [[Big Eater]]. In Cervante’s second part of the novel, Don Quixote’s niece acuses Sancho of this ([[Malicious Slander|she hates him]]) and later, [[Oh Crap There Are Fanfics of Us|when they know about Avellaneda’s second part]], Sancho defends himself against this accusation:
{{quote| "No, senor, that's not true," said Sancho, "for I am more cleanly than greedy, and my master Don Quixote here knows well that we two are used to live for a week on a handful of acorns or nuts. To be sure, if it so happens that they offer me a heifer, I run with a halter; I mean, I eat what I'm given, and make use of opportunities as I find them; but whoever says that I'm an out-of-the-way eater or not cleanly, let me tell him that he is wrong; and I'd put it in a different way if I did not respect the honourable beards that are at the table."}}
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*** This is arguably a case of [[Adaptation Decay|adaptation decay - due to the movies]] cutting out most of Ron's good scenes, giving his best lines to Hermione and turning him into a bit of [[Flanderisation|a comic relief caricature of himself]].
** James Potter won't live down {{spoiler|being a jerk to Snape}}. People who've suffered bullying in the past would see James as a spoiled brat that got everything handed to him while Snape had to suffer his whole life.
*** Mind you, Severus was ''hardly'' any better. He purposely invented a spell whose sole purpose is to slash a person "as if with a sword" and was getting friendly with the the [[A Nazi Byby Any Other Name|Death Eaters]] whilst he was in school, and ''became'' a Death Eater in later life. But thats the Power of Fangirls! who ignore these little details.
* Alanna from the [[Tortall Universe|Tortall]] books suffers from a similar reputation, despite having had relationships with a grand total of three guys in her life, each of them long-term and serious, one of which became a marriage. Yet that's still more than any of [[Tamora Pierce]]'s other protagonists (except [[A Man Is Not a Virgin|Briar]] in the ''[[Circle of Magic]]'' universe), so she gets stuck with a Slutty McSluttington image in some readers' minds.
** The books were banned from a few school libraries as a result of her supposed sexual promiscuity, which probably didn't help.
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* In-Universe example in ''[[A Song of Ice and Fire]]'': Jaime Lannister is forever known as the Kingslayer for murdering the man he was [[Bodyguard Betrayal|supposed to protect]]. What is forgotten is that the king in question was a [[Complete Monster]] {{spoiler|who was killed to prevent him from roasting an entire city full of people alive}}. The reason this became his defining moment was because only a few people knew that, and most of them were killed in the uprising going on that same night, or deliberately chose not to mention it.
** Also in ''[[A Song of Ice and Fire]]'', Catelyn Stark, despite being a kind and caring mother and a woman with a strong sense of honor and duty, is often remembered for being a stone-cold, callous bitch for her poor treatment of her husband's bastard son, Jon Snow: {{spoiler|her son lies unconscious, forever a cripple, and in a moment of mad grief she tells the bastard, "it should have been you" before breaking down in tears}}. She never lives that one down, it seems. It's a big [[Kick the Dog]] moment, but let's be perfectly honest: who ''doesn't'' get one of those in this series?
* ''[[Twilight (Literaturenovel)|Twilight]]'' may be popular for other things, but now thanks to the movie, everyone associates the entire saga with [[Bishie Sparkle|sparkly]] [[Our Vampires Are Different|vampires.]]
** ''Baseball-playing'' sparkly vampires.
** The sparkly vampires were already infamous (at least among [[Fan Hater|Fan Haters]]) before the movie, but the movie definitely compounded it.
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