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* [[Alternative Character Interpretation]]: There are those (in and out of universe) who feel [[The Empire]] would have been more than capable of handling the Vong and that Palpatine had established it to deal with them. Then there are also those (in and out of universe) who feel the Alternative [[Alternative Character Interpretation]] that the Empire's over reliance on impractical and overall unsuccessful superweapons (given that they kept getting destroyed) and its loss against the Rebellion suggests the first interpretation is wishful thinking.

** Both views are presented in the series. Han Solo ridicules the idea, while the Yuuzhan Vong themselves, including Tsavong Lah, tend to believe that they would have lost had the Empire not fallen. One point lending credence to the "Imperial victory" theory was that while the Rebellion won due to hit-and-run tactics targeting critical locations and objectives, the Yuuzhan Vong fought a more traditional manner, i.e. two large forces combatting each other while trying to control as much territory possible, something the Empire was much-more prepared and experience to deal with. It was their main strategy. This is discussed in The Essential Atlas introduction. The Empire with its vast resources, war machines, and battle-hardened veterans would have been a significant threat to the Vong. In addition, the New Republic-turned-Galactic Alliance begins adopting the "stateless" hit-and-run tactics of the Rebellion again, they fare much better against the Vong. Finally, Wedge Antilles devastates the Yuuzhan Vong at Borleias using Imperial tactics, that is sheer, overwhelming force. The operation was dubbed "Emperor's Hammer".

** That said, most of the deaths would probably be due to planetary bombardments and Vongforming - it's not as though they worked half a quadrillion people to death in slave camps. (For one thing, they'd need more slave camps...)

* [[Funny Aneurysm Moment]]: Near the end of "Onslaught", Jacen and Anakin and talking and getting philosophical.

'''Jacen:''' [thinking] [[Legacy of the Force|What I'll be in the future]], however, is anyone's guess. }}

* [[God Mode Sue]] (Jacen Solo. From pretty much the beginning, really, though it wasn't too bad until circa ''Destiny's Way'', and the mind-bending ''Traitor'' was so fascinating a read you barely noticed. After that ...)

* [[Idiot Plot]]: There are several who feel this is the case, for NJO and everything following.

* [[It Was His Sled]]: While Vector Prime's bumping off of {{spoiler|Chewbacca}} was a huge shock at the time of its release, it's really not much of a spoiler anymore.

* [[Memetic Mutation]] - Anakin Solo had the hots for his aunt? The NJO is a train!

** NJO-J=NO!

** {{spoiler|Onimi crosses this during his motive rant. Before, everyone thought he was just a messed up individual. It's impossible to have any pity after learning that he knowingly caused the most devastating war in Galactic History and caused the deaths of untold trillions, and is responisble for all the pain and suffering the Vong inflict on the galaxy.}}

* [[Nightmare Fuel]]:

** Lord Nyax. Two meters high, lobotomized to the point of no higher thought process, hunts through the Force, with ''six'' lightsabers attached to his hands, elbows, and knees respectively, prowling through the forgotten slums of Vong-ruled Coruscant searching for prey among the refugees and survivors.

* [[Sequelitis]] (of course, ''everything'' in the [[Expanded Universe]], and even the movies, has someone who'll say "But it's not as good as...")

* [[Squick]] (Mara Jade [again], dolling herself up for a sexy disguise, cause her teenaged nephew's mouth to drop open in excitement)

** Oh, that's nothing compared to ''The Courtship of Princess Leia'', where Prince Isolder fantasizes about Luke having sex with his mother.

* [[Straw Man Has a Point]] - The radical Jedi are [[Designated Evil|evil]] people who are in favor of using leftover Imperial superweapons and Centerpoint Station. If you disagree with this, then you are ''wrong.'' Just to make sure we understand what utterly detestable people they are, the authors made them willing to kidnap children and perform other heinous acts to get what they want. No one, including Luke, seems to be able to explain to us how killing Yuuzhan Vong with superlasers is more evil than fighting them with conventional weapons.

** Morally, sure, but strategically there's a good reason not to use superweapons. You can divide up a fleet of starships to cover multiple planets. A superweapon can only be in one place at a time unless you mass-produce it, and Imperial superweapons are serious resource drains. They were built to terrorize and control, not to fight wars.

* [[Tear Jerker]] (several)

* [[The Woobie]] (Vua Rapuung)

 

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