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* ''[[Star Wars]]''. Somewhat in the films, but above all in the EU, the Sith, and later the Empire, have a nasty tendency to gain the ascendancy and then lose badly when they start turning on each other.
** Darth Bane's Rule of Two was an explicit attempt to mitigate the damage that this could do to the Sith by "legitimizing" it -- thereit—there were to only be two Sith, the Master to have the power and [[Klingon Promotion|the Apprentice to crave/take it]].
* ''[[Pirates of the Caribbean]]'' has Will Turner comment "No heroes amongst thieves, eh?" when Jack tells him part of the Pirates Code; "Any man who falls behind is left behind". Of course, all the good pirates ignore this for the rest of the series.
* In ''[[Tangled]]'', Flynn betrays fellow fellow thieves, the Stabbington brothers, early in the movie.
* The hero in ''[[Dungeons and& Dragons (film)||Dungeons and Dragons]]'' goes to a Thieves' Guild for help and to get an artifact he needs. When the head of said guild sells him out, he incredulously asks, "What happened to honor among thieves?" Said guild leader basically laughs in his face for having such a silly idea.
** This is after the hero specifically tells his reluctant partner, a young female mage whose mentor was betrayed and killed by a fellow mage, that a thief would never betray another thief.
* The opening scene of ''[[The Dark Knight]]'' illustrates the way Joker's henchmen kill each other for a bigger share of the loot.
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* In the [[Forgotten Realms]] ''Siege of Darkness'' Drizzt Do'Urden notes that while dwarves will fight tooth, nail, and beard for their brethren, dark elves have no such luxury. Their defeat is partly because they can't count on each other for cohesiveness.
* According to ''[[The Zombie Survival Guide]]'', bandit groups [[After the End]] will inevitably wipe themselves out from in-fighting.
* "And he wondered, even as the sword came butchering between his ribs, how he had ever thought that the East, whose essence was treachery, could ever stand."<br />-- ''Empire of the East'', [[Fred Saberhagen]]
* Varies among the Death Eaters in the ''[[Harry Potter]]'' series. Their degree of loyalty ranges from Bellatrix Lestrange, who is [[Psycho Supporter|literally]] insanely loyal to Voldemort, to Igor Karkaroff, who ratted out other Death Eaters to avoid Azkaban. Most of the Death Eaters would seem to fall in the middle and will turn their back on Voldemort if it's to their advantage. Mainly because [[Machiavelli Was Wrong|he would do the same to them]].
* In ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'', Sauron doesn't dare let his orcs know he's looking for the Ring of Power (some orc would likely steal it). So he can't tell his armies, "If you find a hobbit, kill it and send any rings it has back to me." Instead, he orders them to take hobbits alive, and transport them (with all their possessions, even weapons) back to him. Naturally, this lets several hobbits escape from orcs at key moments--especiallymoments—especially because while the orcs may not know what's so important, they ''do'' know that the captives are very valuable, so they end up fighting over the hobbits anyway.
** And of course, Saruman may have gone over to Sauron, but they both know that given the slightest chance, he'll grab the Ring for himself--whichhimself—which limits their ability to work together effectively.
 
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* ''[[Warhammer 4000040,000]]''. Either Chaos or the Orks win for being the most enthusiastic about it, but they're far from the only ones who suffer from this.
* ''[[Warhammer Fantasy Battle]]''. Chaos, Orcs and Skaven especially.
* Titan Avatars in ''[[Scion]]'' are frequently at loggerheads. Muspelheim's avatars (Prometheus in particular) all plan to waylay Surtr once Ragnarok is over. The Drowned Road's two strongest avatars, Mami Wata and Ran, ''act'' aligned but will someday go for each other's throats, while Nu sits in the background and makes its own plots. Terra is led by Gaia, but the other avatars are open to offers. Sobe-no-Kumi is led by Mikaboshi... only because he arranged for Erebus to be pinned down in a deep part of the Titan. The list goes on; the only Titan without avatar issues is Akhenaten, and that's because Aten is its ''only'' avatar.
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* [[Those Wacky Nazis|The Nazis]] often ran into a lot of trouble because everyone in the government was trying to carve out their only little fiefdom at the expense of everyone else, even when the war was clearly being lost.
** The Nazis and basically [[Older Than Feudalism|every regime]] [[Humans Are Bastardsthe Real Monsters|ever in power]].
** It did happen particularly often with the Nazis since Hitler actively encouraged this sort of behavior. His motivation was a mixture of "divide and rule" and an odd form of social Darwinism.
* Happens with a LOT of criminal groups in the real world. If they think they can make more money by killing a "friend", or simply need to throw someone to the wolves to save themselves, they'll do so without a second thought. Many criminal organisations are often brought down by snitches who will turn informant the moment they face time behind bars for their crimes.
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