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== [[Literature]] ==
* In the first book of ''[[The Dresden Files]]'', nothing can protect you from the [[Big Bad]]'s heart-ripping spell. Except, of course, striking first.
** The [[The Dresden Files (Tabletop Gamegame)|RPG]] rulebook clarifies that this is the result of the absurd amount of power in the spell, measured in shifts of power. A typical "attack" spell used in combat can have between 3-10, which can kill, but the target has the chance to mitigate it or negate it via his defensive roll and taking consequences instead. The heart-exploding spell generated over ''35'' shifts, which is enough to simply overwhelm each and every way a character can mitigate damage.
** The rules for a [[Rube Goldberg Hates Your Guts|lethal Entropy Curse]] are similar, in that to avoid it, you'd have to roll somewhere in the mid 20s to dodge the "attack," with a skill that likely maxes out at 5, and dice that on their best roll will only add a +4.
** All that said, the RPG book is explicit and insistent in averting this trope inasmuch as you ''always'' get a defense roll. Some tactics might effectively reduce or augment the defense roll, and in situations such as the Entropy curse a defense roll might, in fact, be meaningless, but you ''always'' get the chance to defend.
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== [[Live Action Television]] ==
* In the ''[[Power Rangers Turbo]]'' movie, when Kimberly and Jason were [[Brainwashed and Crazy]] they tried [[The Power of Friendship]] which had a very minimal effect, and the only solution was some magic from the local wizard.
* [[Star Trek: theThe Next Generation|Picard]] in "The Best of Both Worlds" told the Borg hive he would fight them with all his strength. The Borg replied "Strength is irrelevant." In the follow-up episode after the two-parter, Picard tearfully confessed that he was completely helpless.
 
== [[Visual Novel]] ==
* If someone bearing the [[Tsukihime|Mystic Eyes of]] [[Kara noKarano Kyoukai|Death Perception]] hits you in your point of death, you die. Doesn't matter if you can reincarnate, you are a gestalt entity of six-hundred sixty six different beasts that ordinarily have to all be killed at the same moment, you can locally reverse time to instantly repair any damage done to you, or the world itself actively works to sustain your continued existence, you die. Period.
** Unless, of course, you have the right flavor of [[Plot Armor]]. Arcueid and Souren Araya both manage to overcome this in different ways (the latter by meditatively delaying his death for a considerable time, and the former by simply ''not having'' a point of death at night).
 
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