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That's [['''No Yay]]'''. Implied sexual tension, intentional or otherwise, between two (or more) characters to make the average fan reach for the [[Brain Bleach]]. Essentially, the shipping version of [[Fan Disservice]].

Please note that an implied relationship between two consenting, equal adults is not [['''No Yay]]'''. What makes it [['''No Yay]]''' is the presence of another element, such as [[Lolicon|Pedo]][[Shotacon|philic]] overtones, [[Unequal Pairing|Unequal Pairings]]s, or [[Rape Tropes]]. Of course, one person's [[Squick]] is another person's [[Fetish Fuel]], and this is a highly subjective trope.

When adding examples, please be sure to explain ''why'' that potential ship is a [['''No Yay]]''' and what separates it from just regular [[Ho Yay]] or [[Foe Yay]].

* [[Deadman Wonderland|Genkaku/Nagi]]. It starts off a bit more subtle, with Genkaku seeming a bit too intense and obsessed with getting Nagi to join the Undertakers (along with an interrogation scene between the two, where Genkaku is shown licking the blood from Nagi's arm after his hand was chopped off and telling him what he says is "cute" and that his [[A Love to Dismember|severed hand has become "cute" as well]]). Later, the [[No Yay]] levels go through the roof when Genkaku is shown getting incredibly turned on by Nagi killing some poor sap, saying that Nagi is a "red flower that has bloomed." After that, he later pretty much gives Nagi a love confession telling him that the murderous side of him was beautiful and exquisite, and that he loved him. Yeah...

** Kabuto/Sasuke. In {{spoiler|chapter 581 he attempted to get Sasuke to join him and said he'll be like a big brother to him and never leave his side after just attempting to eat him nonetheless.}} Lord, [[No Yay]].

** In the ''Sigma'' manga, there's also the backstory between Sousuke and Kalinin that... can have a ''lot'' of [[Ho Yay]] subtext (which is the unfortunate result of wearing those Slash Goggles too long). Unfortunately, ''again'', Kalinin is ''way'' older than Sousuke, and is ''supposed'' to be his [[A Father to His Men|legally adopted father]]. Just the whole way that Kalinin keeps going on and on about how Sousuke and him were "destined" to meet and be together, and how he gushes on about how they're inseparable. And then there's how guilty Kalinin felt towards Sousuke's beautiful mother... only for him to meet Sousuke again and see Sousuke be the [[Strong Family Resemblance|spitting image of his mother]]. He then [[The Atoner|becomes obsessed]] with becoming a "happy family" with Sousuke. Lord, [[No Yay]].

*** May we add that she ''does'' have an orgasm -- onlyorgasm—only after Guts has impaled her with his [[BFS|Dragon Slayer]] and ''blown half of her torso off with his [[Arm Cannon]]''. [[Too Kinky to Torture|Can we just say "yikes?"]]

** Noah/Kid -- whileKid—while the original speculations of this turning into canon Nightmare Fuel seem to have been avoided (Noah's a joke, despite a promising start), the bondage suggestions and Noah's lasting first impression don't help. Gopher's no better with his rage against the shinigami.

** Then there's Medusa a [[The Vamp|very beautiful]] [[Complete Monster|and]] [[Magnificent Bitch|cruel]] villainess who hits MANY [[Fetish Fuel]] points, what with being [[Foot Focus|a barefooter]] and [[Woman in Black|having a nice body clad in black robes]]. Medusa acting all seductive towards her old partner Stein? [[Mind Game Ship]], [[Foe Yay]] and [[Interplay of Sex and Violence]], if you're into that. {{spoiler|Medusa acting all seductive towards her old partner Stein ''[[Sleep Mode Size|while in the body of a five-year-old little girl]]'', [[Grand Theft Me|which she possessed a short while ago]] }}? [[No Yay]].

* ''[[Air Gear]]'' features a squicky BDSM-type relationship between [[Ax Crazy]] Arthur and [[Dude Looks Like a Lady|Shalott]], a dude who looks like a girly loli and wears a frilly dress. Not to mention the scene where they lay naked together. Another [[No Yay]] scene features Arthur pelvic thrusting against his opponent Agito and nibbling on his ear. Oh, and when Shalott straddles Agito at the end of one chapter and tells him after he tortures him via pulling out his teeth he can "have a lick" if he wants.

* ''[[Cardcaptor Sakura]]'' has more than one. Sonomi Daidouji is implied to be attracted to Sakura as a stand-in for Sakura's ''mother'' Nadeshiko, who was her cousin ([[Lolicon]] + [[Incest Is Relative|Incest]] + [[Replacement Goldfish]]). One episode has Sonomi manipulating events so that Sakura spends the day alone with Masaki Amamiya (Sonomi's grandfather) -- but Sakura doesn't know it's her great-grandfather, and her immediate family didn't know where she was all day, so the subtext becomes ''incredibly'' unfortunate ([[Lolicon]] + [[Incest Is Relative|Incest]] + [[May-DecemberMay–December Romance]] + [[Rape Tropes|NonCon]] + [[Wife Husbandry]] = [[Squick]] [[Up to Eleven]]).

* ''[[D.N.Angel]]'': Hiwatari Sr has many, very creepy moments with Satoshi, his adopted son. From "I missed seeing your face" to "I'm doing this for you, my precious son" to "I don't want to lose you" to "One has to take good care of their tools" to a scene in Stage Four (manga volume 15) in which he forces Satoshi to transform while holding him down over a table -- yestable—yes, the entire thing has very disturbing rape undertones.

* In the [[Fullmetal Alchemist (anime)|2003 anime version]] of ''[[Fullmetal Alchemist (manga)|Fullmetal Alchemist]]'', we have Dante, whose hitting on Ed in the final episodes belongs here for so very many reasons. 1) She's the [[Big Bad]], he's [[The Hero]]. 2) She is, at the time that she begins hitting on him, [[Body Surf|inhabiting]] the rotting corpse of her former assistant. 3) She is plotting to [[Body Surf]] into the body of Rose, one of Ed's possible [[Love Interest|Love Interests]]s, a [[Nice Girl]] who already experienced [[Rape as Drama]] and [[Teen Pregnancy]] (and has gone mute from it) in order to consummate the relationship. 4) Ed is her ex-boyfriend's son, and she is only doing this to be "loved by the son of Hohenheim." 5) Dante is four hundred years old, and inhabited the body of an old woman when we first met her, while Ed is ''15''. It's played for the level of disgust one would expect, and is yet another example of Dante cheerfully crossing the [[Moral Event Horizon]].

* ''[[Monster (manga)|Monster]]'': The love and devotion that the [[Gonk|Gonkish]]ish Roberto has for his boss Johan. Also, Johan's behavior towards his twin sister Anna is pretty darn creepy.

** Ryuk (an ugly inhuman monster) and Light (a [[Bishonen]] teenage boy that said monster had no small part in corrupting into becoming a crazy mass murderer [[For the Evulz]]). Ryuk is always looming behind Light and [[No Sense of Personal Space|is a very close talker]] when propositioning an exchange of bodyparts [http://candyzelda22.deviantart.com/art/Personal-Space-196856067\] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wddttYTklNc\] (...eyes). Ryuk follows Light EVERYWHERE, is often seen lounging around in Light's bed [http://candyzelda22.deviantart.com/art/Sexy-Ryuk-190308072\] [http://plasmapivot.deviantart.com/art/Ryuk-259152274\] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5L_JO2cao0&list=PLDEBCC868724EAA19&index=10\], and is always staring at Light with the [[Slasher Smile|rape grin]]. Plus, Ryuk only cares about how Light can entertain him. They are both extremely bored so who's to say what could happen... They live together for years {{spoiler|'til death do they part.}} There's even more subtext in the manga--atmanga—at one point Light tells Ryuk that he thinks he's cute, and then there's the scene where he's grabbing at Ryuk's belt {{spoiler|when he's begging for his life.}}

* From ''[[Lenore the Cute Little Dead Girl]]'', most fans see Lenore/Ragamuffin. A 10 years old, ''[[Undead Child|dead]]'' girl and a 20-3020–30 years old vampire (who is actually 400, but let's not go there, cause Lenore is 100 herself). It's like they're the cartoon impersonations of [[Interview with the Vampire|Louis and Claudia]]. [[No Hugging, No Kissing|Minus]] all the [[Squick|canon snuggling]], of course.

* If [[Batman|Joker/Batman]] isn't [[Foe Yay]] to you, then it's almost certainly [[No Yay|this]]. Doesn't help that some of the [[Foe Yay]] subtext with these two in the comics can become [[No Yay]] pretty fast [[Freud Was Right|if you squint at it just right]]... Not seeing it? [[Fridge Horror|Remember]] that [[The Joker]]'s skin is bleached white ''[[Squick|absolutely everywhere]] [[Brain Bleach|on his body]]''...

* ''[[Toy Story]] 2'': (Totally no relation to [[Toy Ship]]) The [[Les Yay]] might override the context of "When She Loved Me", just a little. Woody and Andy, too. Actually, any toy that was especially loved by their owner -- theyowner—they tend to start acting like scorned/jealous/bereaved lovers when the relationship ends.

* ''[[Blue Velvet]]'': Psycho drug-addicted gangster rapist Frank Booth/innocent wholesome college boy Jeffrey Beaumont. With Frank of course being the supplier of the [[Depraved Bisexual|depraved]] [[Squick|Squicky]]y [[Ho Yay]].

* Count Olaf/Violet from ''[[A Series of Unfortunate Events]]''. The first book alone has ''bucket loads'' of [[No Yay]] subtext, what with Count Olaf planning on marrying her and later ''consummating his relationship'' with his '''14 year old adopted daughter'''. While Olaf didn't seem to have anything sexual in mind primarily, he still utters a quite [[Squick|Squicky]]y line after being foiled: "You may not be my wife, but you are still my daughter, and..."

* Since the protagonist is just barely a teenager, the [[Ho Yay]] vibes in [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZz3ZBVMsU8=related this scene] (starting about 5:45) from ''[[Alex Rider|Stormbreaker]]'' are rather [[Squick|Squicky]]y.

* ''[[Star Trek: Deep Space Nine]]'' has the dubious honor of sporting a case of [[No Yay]] so intense that the ''actress herself'' took issue with it and stopped it cold. The producers wanted Dukat, a mass-murdering war criminal, romantically paired up with Kira, the former freedom fighter whose people were the target of his genocide, and so subtext started appearing all over the place. Nana Visitor protested the move so vehemently that the planned storyline was soon dropped and they wound up as even worse enemies. So the producers revealed that Kira's mother was Dukat's lover.

* The ''[[Condemned]]'' series gives us Serial Killer X / Ethan Thomas. The subtext gets a ''lot'' more blatant in the sequel ''Bloodshot'', where SKX actually ''rescues'' Ethan, gets close to him and holds a knife to his throat, whispering to him, "Yes... I look forward to cutting you open... learn your little secret..." or how he told Ethan, "Do you think of me whenever you look at your hand? I think of you every time I look in the mirror..." Which would all be well and good, except SKX has a [[Nightmare Fuel|huge section of his mouth / jaw blown off, and has a bunch of cuts and scars on his forehead and face]]. And adding to that, Ethan is a pale, sickly worn down drunk. Please, [[No Yay]].

* ''[[Haunting Ground]]'' has plenty of this. There's [[Stalker with a Crush|Riccardo]] towards Fiona. At first, this might not seem so [[Squick|Squicky]]y, since [[Evil Sounds Deep|his voice seems pretty handsome]], and he looks very mysterious with the brown cloak covering his face. Until they actually ''show'' his face, and it's revealed that he's actually a 40-50 year old, bald man with a bunch of facial scars. It gets even creepier when the player realizes that he's actually {{spoiler|her ''uncle'' -- made even worse in that he's her father's ''clone'', meaning he pretty much shares the same DNA as her father}}. And he acts like a ''complete'' creep towards Fiona -- abductingFiona—abducting her and stripping her so she has to go around the mansion ''naked'', carving a statue of her pregnant (and telling her that he's going to ''make her that way''), sticking some stick thing up her... apparently to make sure she's healthy enough to have his child and to make sure she was a virgin, out-and-out stalking her with a gun ("Fiona, why do you run? [[Narm|Let me into your womb!]]"), and... even more disturbingly, if he catches and kills her during gameplay, the Game Over has him ''raping her body''. Interestingly enough, the worst ending in the game is where he {{spoiler|''does'' manage to kidnap her, and confines her in a cage and apparently impregnates her. She's later shown as his wife, with him being ''very'' happy}}. [[Squick|Ugh]].

** Starting with ''Re:Chain of Memories'', ''[[Kingdom Hearts]]'' seems unusually fond of adding [[No Yay]] implications to its villains, actually. Just for a few examples, there's Namine's completely terrified reaction to Marluxia putting a hand on her shoulder, Riku-Replica's desperate attempt to back away from an advancing Larxene, and in ''Birth by Sleep'', {{spoiler|Master Xehanort's rather disturbing interest in Terra's body, as well as Vanitas' chosen method for holding Ven down while he forces a union with his other half}}.

* ''[[Drakengard]]'' is ''made'' of this, quite deliberately. The hero's sister [[Brother-Sister Incest|wants to jump his bones]], and one of your main characters is a pedophile. Long story short, you know there's problems when the least [[Squick|squicktasticsquick]]tastic implied pairing is [[Interspecies Romance|the hero and his dragon partner]].

* Familial love ending up as [[No Yay]] isn't all that uncommon, so it's no surprise that some people see subtext between heroine Jade and her uncle/surrogate father Pey'j in ''[[Beyond Good & Evil (video game)|Beyond Good and Evil]]''. That particular pairing would involve (deep breath) [[Wife Husbandry]] with a side-order of [[Parental Incest]], a [[May-DecemberMay–December Romance|30-year age difference]], [[Interspecies Romance|bestiality]], and [[Tiny Guy, Huge Girl|a serious size difference]]. There's a scene where the two hug each other in a triumphant way after defeating a boss that comes off as [[Relationship Writing Fumble|very odd]] to some people.

* ''[[Metal Gear Solid]]'': The fight between [[Depraved Bisexual|Vamp]] and [[Bishounen|Raiden]] in the fourth game has some extremely disturbing homoerotic imagery: the grappling, the almost rutting-like motion when Raiden stabs himself to nail Vamp--andVamp—and don't forget the [[Does This Remind You of Anything?|white blood]] and the [[[[Lecherous Licking]] crotch-knife licking and stabbing which almost looks like rape.

* ''[[Order of the Stick]]''. [[Heroic Comedic Sociopath|Belkar]]/anyone. Pairing him with [http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0611.html a random woman he made out with] while killing all her co-workers is one of the least [[Squick|squickysquick]]y possibilities.

*** Speaking of Baby Doll, her canon relationship with Killer Croc, which even [[Squick|squickssquick]]s ''Batman'' to think about.

** Dark Danny and Danny have one-sided [[No Yay]], with Dark Danny being the one generating it. At one point, he forces a Time Medallion inside Danny's body while Danny screams in pain. They have quite a few fanfics dedicated to them, though.

* In ''[[Star Wars: The Clone Wars|Star Wars the Clone Wars]]'', the very first time Ahsoka met Cad Bane, he electrocuted her ''twice'' -- first—first to knock her out, then [[For the Evulz|just for the fun of it]] -- handcuffed—handcuffed her, caressed her head in a rather creepy manner, before taking her Padawan Braid as a trophy. Much later, when Ahsoka protected an unconscious Anakin from him, he left, promising her a dance at an other time. Then there's Garnac, the leader of a Trandoshan hunting party, who hunted Ahsoka and other kidnapped Jedi children on a jungle moon. He provided lines like these: