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LGBT characters are becoming more common on TV. However, they are still generally pretty young. This may be tied to the fact that characters over 50, gay or straight, rarely discuss (much less ''have'') sex at all on television, as well as having grown up in a time very hostile to homosexuality.
 
Obviously not at all [[Truth in Television]], but slightly justified in that most people from older generations grew up in a time where the expectation to being straight was so unquestionable, that many gay people lived their lives pretending to be straight and/or suppressing any homosexual urges, and are just now beginning to come out of the closet. In this past of such strict taboo, [['''Nobody Over 50 Is Gay]]''' was the more straightforward assumption. So now, Nobody '''Over 50''' Is Gay. Even [[Heteronormative Crusader|Heteronormative Crusaders]]s generally acknowledge that gay people of diverse age exist, but that they should [[Get Back in the Closet]] -- only—only those more strictly isolated from this information (such as older generations in the past, or media-restrictive religious communities) may actually fail to fathom the existence of gay people in their midst.
 
This trope even applies in gay media, due to a heavy focus on youth and conventional beauty. If older gays appear at all, it's mostly to mentor the younger heroes or lecherously chase after them. This trope doesn't really apply in the [[United Kingdom]], however, thanks to a lot of publicity from celebrities such as [[Stephen Fry]] and [[Elton John]]. In the US, this trope is slowly fading as openly gay celebs get older.
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Natch, this is common enough that only exceptions are considered noteworthy.
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=== Exceptions ===
 
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{{examples|Exceptions}}
== Anime and Manga ==
* In ''[[Full Metal Panic!]]'', [[Big Bad|Gauron]] looks to be around 50, and is [[Stalker with a Crush|very gay for Sousuke]]. Apparently, even at that age, he has no problems talking about his sexual fantasies to Sousuke (who reacts like any normal teenager would, [[Squick|Squicking]]ing at [[Too Much Information]]). Of course, it's even more disturbing for him, since Gauron's fantasies involve him -- orhim—or, more accurately, [[I Love the Dead|his corpse]].
* An elderly lesbian couple show up in the [[Girls Love]] [[Manga]] ''[[Ame-iro Kouchakan Kandan]]'' and comment about the tea shop owner's growing attraction to her employee. [[Crowning Moment of Heartwarming|The elderly couple admit that they've been together for 50 years.]]
* The old merchant Yamatoya in ''[[Peacemaker Kurogane]]''. He rapes Suzu after picking him up off the streets, as well as two twin kitty boys.
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== ComicbooksComic Books ==
* Steve Traynor, the police captain in ''[[Top Ten]]'', is around 50-6050–60 years old, and is gay (albeit largely closeted). His boyfriend, Wulf, is about five-to-ten years older. They were WWII super-heroes, and started seeing each other when Steve, a.k.a. Jetlad, was 16.
* Ray Monde in ''[[Hellblazer]]'' is an elderly gay man who is friends with the protagonist, John Constantine.
** For that matter, Constantine himself is [[Bi the Way|bisexual]] and has ([[Webcomic Time|sort of]]) aged in real time, he was calculated to have turned 56 on May 10, 2009.
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* ''Sweet Tea: Black Gay Men of the South'' makes a point of including gay men of all ages, including a very old man who recounts the gay scene of the 1920's.
* [[Agatha Christie]]'s ''[[A Murder Is Announced]]'' features two old (probably over 60) ladies (Hinchcliffe and Murgatroyd) living together. [[Hide Your Lesbians|Although of course never explicitly stated to be lesbians]], their behaviour strongly hints at this. (It's also ''possible'' that Blacklock and Bunner are another such couple, although it's not nearly as clear-cut in this case.)
** A similar arrangement occurs in the backstory of the [[Lord Peter Wimsey]] story ''Unnatural Death'' -- the—the victim's wealth was inherited from the lady she lived with. Her niece, in turn, plans on settling down on a farm with a female "friend" who clearly worships the ground where she walks.
** One character in ''[[The Mousetrap]]'' is a "flamboyant" elderly man (who also, according to his description in the script, bears a superficial -- [[Mind Screw|and deliberately misleading]] -- resemblance—resemblance to [[Hercule Poirot]]).
* In John Morgan Wilson's Benjamin Justice mysteries, Justice's landlords, Fred and Maurice, are in their eighties. They've been together since shortly after WWII. {{spoiler|Or they were, until Fred died in ''Spider Season''.}}
* ''[[Outlander (novel)|Outlander]]'': Lord John is presumably in his forties, if his age is anywhere near that of Jamie's. Since the books don't seem to stop quite yet, he may very well live quite a bit longer.
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* In ''[[The Quest for Karla|Smiley's People]]'', Connie Sachs, who is well over 60, has a younger girlfriend.
* In ''[[Chalion]]'', Saint Umegat was gay. [[Bury Your Gays|His first lover was dead before the story began,]] but it's heavily implied that he has a new one now: his mute assistant in the menagerie.
{{quote| Umegat (on being a saint}): Lust, I'm glad to say, seems largely unaffected.}}
 
 
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* An episode of ''[[The Drew Carey Show]]'' once featured Drew taking on an elderly gay couple as boarders. Even better, they were [[Batman|Adam West]] and [[Barney Miller|Max Gail]].
* In ''[[Little Britain]]'', but only for laughs: practically everyone in Llandewy Brefi has some inclination for homosexuality regardless of age, much to the annoyance of Daffyd Thomas, who claims to be the "only gay in the village".
* An SNL digital short features Jonah Hill confessing to Andy Samberg that he's been sleeping with his father -- completefather—complete with scene of Jonah Hill making out with a 53-year-old man.
* Saul Holden from ''[[Brothers and Sisters]]''. He had a few [[The Beard|beards]] in his time and still has a beard of the hair variety. Born in 1939, he was in the closet for most of his life, but is now out and recently joined a dating site for "gay men of a certain age".
* In ''[[Grace Under Fire]]'' Grace's ex-husband's father (Emmett) was gay. Which Grace found out when she and her then boyfriend accidentally wandered into a gay bar. Emmett and his long term partner had been meeting secretly for decades, as Emmett didn't want to come out to his wife. The lover then shows up at Emmett's funeral a few episodes later.
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* ''[[The L Word]]'''s lesbians are generally young, but seasons 4 and 5 have featured Cybill Sheppard as a college dean who realizes she's gay and has to deal with the impact of her coming out on her children and husband of many years.
* The short-lived 2000 ''Normal, Ohio'' was about a midwestern [[Invisible to Gaydar]] played by John Goodman.
* Middle-aged African American couple Steve & Edy from the X-Files episode "X-Cops", a [[Invisible to Gaydar]] and a [[PerformanceInto ArtistMusical Theatre]].
* On ''Cosby'', Hilton got onto a gay men's softball team because he didn't know what the team's name, "Older and Out", meant.
* ''[[Six Feet Under]]'' features an older gay couple in the episode "Nobody Sleeps"; Keith's boss Roger Pasquese is at least middle-aged and quite flaming; and in the finale, {{spoiler|Keith dies in his sixties while David survives into his eighties and is shown having met another man}}.
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** Of course, this was in the last season, {{spoiler|which turned out to be actually just be a novel Roseanne was writing}}... {{spoiler|Technically, this never happened}}. But it still kind of counts.
* ''[[Ghost Whisperer]]'' when it was revealed that {{spoiler|Eli's mother had a very long-term affair with her husband's business partner's wife, which they once hid by pretending she was having an affair with the husband. This comes out after Eli's father dies (the mother had died several years earlier); cue ''both'' ghosts haunting the couple out of anger (the husband) and fear of exposing the affair (the wife, because she had died during one of their rendezvous).}}
* ''[[The Amazing Race]]'' had a middle-aged gay team in its first season--Joeseason—Joe and Bill, more commonly known as "Team Guido." When they returned for the All-Stars season, they even referred to themselves as "two gay grandpas."
** Also with Kate & Pat, the lesbian ministers on Season 12, and Mel on Season 14.
* ''[[Drop the Dead Donkey]]'' averts this in the form of Helen's mother revealing that an aunt wasn't really an aunt.
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* Blanche's little brother in ''[[The Golden Girls]]''. It's never specified how old he actually is (Blanche never revealing her real age plus the show's [[Negative Continuity|generally loose time line]] doesn't help), but he's at least in his late 40's.
** Dorothy's friend Pat, who actually developed feelings for Rose.
* ''[[Robson Arms]]'' has a mostly [[Invisible to Gaydar]] couple; the drama in their relationship comes not from their being gay, but because it's a [[May-DecemberMay–December Romance]]. Another elderly resident of the eponymous apartment believes them to be father and son.
* In [[Skins]] third generation, Frankie's older father is obviously over 50.
* In a short-lived 70's series, [[The Hot L Baltimore]], the residents of the hotel included a middle aged gay couple, George and Gordon.
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* ''[[Friendly Hostility]]'' features an adorable middle-aged gay couple (Hans and Mr. Cohen) who own the sandwich shop that Bootsie works at.
* ''[[Questionable Content]]'' has Marten's father Henry, and his partner Maurice. Dora's immediate response to meeting Henry is the observation that Marten is going to be hot when he goes gray. Henry gloats over this indirect compliment to Maurice, who happily agrees.
* In ''[[Something *Positive]],'' Branwen's father was gay. Granted, he [https://web.archive.org/web/20140109044221/http://somethingpositive.net/sp07192004.shtml died a few years shy of this trope], but [https://web.archive.org/web/20140109070520/http://somethingpositive.net/sp07202004.shtml his still-living ex-boyfriend Leland] probably counts.
** And then there's [[Depraved Homosexual|Avogadro and the prison warden.]]
 
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* [[George Takei]]
* Rudolf Brazda, the last gay concentration camp inmate, who died at the ripe old age of ninety-eight.
* [https://web.archive.org/web/20140530003322/http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2011/09/gay-ww-ii-veteran-finally-sees-discharge-changed-from-undesirable-to-honorable/ Melvin Dwork], a gay WWII veteran who got his discharge from the military changed from dishonorable to honorable.
* [[Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky]] (1840-1893)
* [[Project Runway|Tim Gunn]] (born in 1953).
* The Swedish diplomat Sverker Åström, who came out publicly at the age of 87.
* David Ogden Stiers came out in 2009 at the age of 66.
* [[wikipedia:Bertrand Delano%C3%ABDelanoë|Bertrand Delanoë]], the current mayor of Paris, came out in 1998 at 48.
 
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