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** The minotaur can punch hard enough to kill Sea Kings with ease, pulverize reinforced rock (or whathever is Impel Down made of) and were Iron spiked clubs. How a fall to ice would be deadlier? I mean, if they where normal humans, sure that would be deadly. But a normal human being hit with Luffy chapter 1 punch would be splatted at the ''best case scenario''. Hell, just punching a guy through a cement wall would be enough to destroy every single bone and pierce their internal organs. So I guess its [[Rule of Funny]] with [[Reality Is Unrealistic]], probably the same reason why bullets still are deadly in people who can be blown up and/or kicked with enough force to level ''mountains'' without killing them, instead of annoying mosquito bites.
** A terminal velocity fall is very very fast, way harder than the minotaur or anything else in this universe could ever hit. And ice isn't some spongy surface. It's solid ice. You might as well be hitting concrete if you impact water. A solid surface is even worse.
* Why Rayleigh didn't act during the Marineford War? I mean, Ace was Gol D. Roger son, which would be an extremely big deal for somebody like him, with equal or beyond importance of that of Whitebeard. Instead he was only drinking Sake and remembering the Good Old Days while Ace croaked. I mean, the guy literally swam through a Sea King infested sea to find and train Luffy and he couldn't do the same for Ace? And how he didn't knew Ace was Gol son. Shouldn't the legendary "Dark King" be aware of something so important?. What, only Garp was deemed "trusting" enough to find out?.
** Most likely, Roger just never managed to tell Rayleigh. Keep in mind that Roger's crew had already disbanded way before Roger died. When Roger was caught, the only one he could trust with his son was Garp. Also, keep in mind that Rayleigh was still a highly notorious criminal, which would make him very hard to find, and maybe even unsuitable for raising children what with all the people after him.
* Why did Luffys bounty got such a low upgrade, I mean his bounty was 300 mil. ''before'' Morias arc and now it's 400?
** 100 mil is not a small amount. Most pirates are considered serious business if they can get up to just 100 mil.
** Yes but it's lower than when he declared war on the World Government in Enies Lobby(in a way), he got from 100,000,000 to 300,000,000. This time he defeated Gecko Moria ,a Warlord of the Sea, attacked a World Noble, destroyed a Pacifista(with Zoro and Sanji), caused a breakout from Impel Down, participated in the Whitebeard War, ''freed Ace'' (failed to save, but freed) and he intruded Marine Headquarters a second time and ringed the Ox-Bell 16 times (which was taken as a declaration of war, this time ''public worldwide''). Oh and it was revealed that he was "Revolutionary" Dragon's son and the sworn step-son of Gold Roger (kind of, he's Ace's sworn brother and Ace's father is Roger). Quite a list... So... why so low upgrade?
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* Honestly. Why didn't the Whitebeard pirates just [[Just Eat Gilligan|pay a visit to Impel Down]] instead of Marineford? It's public knowledge where he's being held. Sure, they have a ton of patrolling battleships, but those are no match for Whitebeard. And neither are Shiryuu and Magellan. Teach nearly destroys the place by himself later (although he did need to use his Warlord of the Sea credentials to get in).
** My own guess is that it's because he wanted to punish the Marines for what they did to Ace. If Whitebeard had gone to Impel Down, he wouldn't have been able to convince his New World allies to join him in the fight, so a massive showdown at Marineford wouldn't have been possible.
** Don't forget that Impel Down is in the sea-kings infested Calm Belt, and only marines have seastone layered ships to hide from them.
*** Then why couldn't they steal one of the dozen-or-so Marine ships sent out to keep an eye on him? Maybe only a small number of ships meant specifically for travel in the Calm Belt is layered with seastone?
** Personally, I think it had more to do with the fact that the vast majority of Impel Down is underwater, and Whitebeard's power is really only good for mass-scale devastation. If he starts tossing around earthquakes in Impel Down, he'll bring the whole prison down, making rescuing Ace a moot point.
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** And there's more! What about Bellemere's death? Oh, everyone in the village loves Bellemere, they love Nami, they love Nojiko, it's so good to see those kids grow up, blah blah blah. But would any of them just slip Bellemere the money that she needed to SURVIVE? No. Even before Arlong's invasion, it seemed to be common knowledge that Bellemere's family was having a hard time staying afloat, but there's no charity--just endless dinners made entirely out of tangerines. Worst. Villagers. Ever.
*** Ummm, no. Everyone in the village gave all the money they had and distributed it equally, it just happened they were 100,000B short. If they could pay for her, they would've.
**** Wait, so, you're saying that the entire life savings of every person in the village is equivalent to the amount that they had to pay every month thereafter? The Arlong Landing Tax and the Monthly Living Tax were both the same: 100k for adults, 50k for kids. So every single beri that every person in the village could contribute when Arlong landed just happens to be the same as what they could pay EVERY MONTH, and that wasn't enough for Bellemere and the kids.
**** And, anyway, you're wrong! That "equal distribution" thing you mention never happens. Genzo even asks Bellemere if she has the money, and she says that she only has 100,000B. He did NOT say, "Hey, we pooled all our money together, and it just so happens that we don't have enough for you and your kids--what've you got?" Maybe you got confused when you saw Arlong with all the money together, but he was just counting the total. That scene wasn't showing that they all gathered their cash to pay for everyone in the village. And even if your theory WAS true, Bellemere still pointlessly admits she has kids, without even knowing that they're around to see her empty gesture (they were hiding and they don't cry out until after it's clear that Bellemere is about to be shot). Nami's backstory is full of stuff like that--nonsensical actions that utterly fail to disguise paper-thin faux-tragedies.
****** One possibility is that Bellemere wasn't the only person who couldn't pay, but had the potential advantage of being outside the village, and thus any spare money had to cover the ones who were in town. Genzo most likely hoped the fishmen wouldn't notice her house, but this was thwarted when the fishmen spotted the smoke. As for Nojiko and Nami, there were only three choices for them; 1)Send them out to sea (which failed because the boats had been sunk), 2)Leave them on the island and let them possibly get killed for not paying or 3)Pay for them at the expense of Bellemere's own fee. Bellemere clearly can't accept 2), but it's unclear whether she knew about 1) or that it wasn't an option.
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*** Nami's hometown, never mind the entire island, isn't exactly a gold-mine town, just from the looks of it. The residents would certainly have enough of an economy to take care of their basic daily needs and transact regular business and all that, but all that got shot to hell once Arlong and his gang arrived. And [[Fridge Brilliance|Arlong KNEW from the outset]] that it would be hard as nails for the villagers to come up with the monthly stipulated amount. [[Complete Monster|He was just being a real bastard about it.]]
*** [[Fridge Horror|Which causes one to wonder if there were any extended families, i.e. families with more than two children at the most, plus grandparents and other relatives, as well as relatives who might have been unable to work to pay that total amount per month, and just what might have happened to them if they were unable to pay...]]Arlong DID say the money was rent for them to keep their lives, after all...
** The deal wasn't for money really. It was so Nami would have a reason to willingly serve Arlong and in that regard it succeded marvelously right up until Nami's former crew members showed up.
* This is a minor one that I don't even think we can answer yet based on the manga, but what would happen to a Devil's '''Fruit''' if it were submerged in water? I ask because I saw the "fish eating the Hito Hito no Mi" and wondered how the fruit would even reach a fish.
** Nothing relevant to the fruit's power happens when it is adrift. In fact I recall that the Yami Yami no Mi (Blackbeard's fruit) was found while a crewmate - both then on Whitebeard's boat - fished it out of the ocean.
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******* Then whoever managed to disgest it ever so slightly faster would have it.
* Blackbeard killed Thatch and defected from the Whitebeard Pirates several months before the events of OP, prompting Ace to go after him. So how did Ace get Luffy's wanted poster to proudly show Whitebeard since Luffy got his first bounty about a month (to be generous) before he went to Drum? The Blackbeard pirates had by then already sacked Drum, which meant that by that time Blackbeard had already left the Whitebeard pirates and Ace had gone after him and had already visited Drum a few weeks before Luffy and his crew arrived.
** Travel time between islands seems to be vague. The time they spend sailing between any of the islands could easily be months. And do we have a definite time for when Blackbeard sacked Drum Kingdom? It seemed to be fairly recently before Luffy arrived there, considering that King Whats-his-name was still hiding outside his kingdom. And there's no indication that Blackbeard defected in the months before One Piece started. He could have easily done that sometime between the Arlong arc and the point where they arrived at Reverse Mountain to enter the Grand Line.
** It's probably since I haven't re-read the older chapters recently but when did Ace show Whitebeard Luffy's wanted poster? I don't remember that...
** Ace was searching for Blackbeard. Let's say he was last spotted in the New World, Ace is searching around. Whitebeard hears that Ace is near the island, goes to visit. Ace shares the bounty, gets world Teach attacked Drum Island, heads off there.
* Why is the World Government stupid enough to go to war with Whitebeard? An all out war of that scale will have massive casualties for both sides and with three out of Four Emperors remaining, the Marines can't possibly take another fight if they manage to defeat Whitebeard.
** Because Ace is the son of the former pirate king, Gol. D. Roger, and thus the apparent heir to the pirate king. Thus, he can be seen as a symbol of the future of the pirate era which was established by the dying words of Gol. D. Roger, and which the Wolrd Government is desperately trying to destroy. However, if they simply quickly execute Ace, than Whitebeard will come in and go into an all out war in order to destroy the World government. However, by announcing it, they basically make a public announcement about it, so in as to draw in Whitebeard. Thus, instead of Whitebeard going to war and trying to destroy the Marines, it is instead a rescue mission to save Ace. At this point, when Whitebeard shows up, he has to hold back a bit in order to not kill Ace as well, as rescue missions are generally alot more difficult than simply destroy missions. Thus, this is probably the best chance the Marines have of killing two birds with one stone. If they succeed, they will have essentially destroyed a great deal of the pirate era's current strength (whitebeard), and future potential strength (Ace).
*** Whitebeard could have destroyed Marineford with a massive tidal wave, just like he tried at the start of the battle. But they also announced it so they'd know when he would come. Can't just have 100,000 men standing around there day and night waiting for an attack.
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*** I think they call that something "a shitload of pirates".
*** Don't the maps show a ring of land along the "prime meridian" equivalent? The hemisphere we've seen has Reverse Mountain blocking the sea route from Rogue Town.
**** That and they can't find islands like that in [[One Piece]]. Remember on Jaya Island they had to get a 'bird' that always faces south since regular compasses don't work in the grand line, and without the log pose guiding you from one island to the next, you'll end up completely lost. Of course there are Eternal poses that always point to specific islands, but those are normally made by the World Government after they've discovered an island. Guess which one isn't on the list.
**** Also, we don't really know anything about Raftel. All we know is that it's SUPPOSED to be the last island on the Grand Line, which means it PROBABLY is where the undefined treasure is located. We don't know how big the ocean is, or how far apart islands are. And, about the Marine ships, though they can travel through the Calm Belt, that's a big secret (remember the phony newspaper article that showed Helmeppo and Coby crying as they supposedly went down Reverse Mountain?). I get the feeling that Raftel is really just a fake island, or maybe even the true Marine Headquarters/Vegapunk's hideout.
** Rogers had offered to tell Whitebeard "the way" to Raftel, implying there's some trick you have to know to get there.
* Why are so many characters in One Piece gigantic? Whitebeard, Blackbeard and his crew, Gekko Moriah, Aokiji/Kuzan, Jerry, Kumadori, Fukorou, The Destroyers, Donquixote Doflamingo. These guys have been eating their greens.
** Largely I think it's just Oda's sense of design, but if you want to look for an in-canon excuse, the best I could give you is that they've somehow got giant genes somewhere in thir historyy since there are, y'know, actual GIANTS in the series.
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**** NO WORRIES! Because there's no romance in [[One Piece]], that means sex doesn't exist in this universe!
***** Oh, I'm pretty sure it does; otherwise, what are Sanji and Brook always getting so excited about when the girlies are half naked. XP
***** Sex and romance are two different things. Sex is the act of [[Exactly What It Says on the Tin|sexual reproduction]]. Romance is a lot more complicated than that.
**** Wait, then what did Shakky mean when she said Raleigh was 'looking for women'?
***** [[Word of God]] says there's no romance '''for the Straw Hat Pirates.'''
** [[It Runs on Nonsensoleum|NO MATTER HOW BIG THEY GROW, THEIR HEARTS WILL ALWAYS BE BIGGER!]]
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**** First of all the trooper above clearly said that it was an exaggeration, not that hard to miss, and second, your bone structure changes and adapts to your body depending on the situations, true someone in his 30s have to follow your rule, but someone that started training at a young age can affect their growth, that's why people that play sports, specially basketball will almost always be very tall.
** To make the Straw Hats look smaller, and therefore more badass if they beat someone perhaps. After all, most of the Straw Hats look fairly harmless.
** They suffer from gigantism. No, seriously.
** People in the real world vary widly in hight. Oda just exaggerated this fact, just like everything else in the series.
* Is it more than a coincidence that the Blackbeard Pirates are eerily similar to the Strawhat Pirates?
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*** What about the other BB Pirates?
**** They're all evil counterparts to some of the Strawhat Pirates. Probably it's just the case that Blackbeard is still in an intermediate stage of forming his nakama. Check [[One Piece/WMG|the WMG entry for more info]].
* What's the deal with Lafitte of the Blackbeard Pirates? Judging by the Ace VS Blackbeard fight Lafitte seems to have Soru or at least some form of super-speed.And how did he sneak into Mariejora without Mihawk,Doflamingo,Sengoku, and the others noticing?
** While wearing tap shoes, no less. I think this is a case of [[Just That Good]].
*** Apparently, Lafitte uses a Zoan Devil Fruit, because the latest chapter [http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/542/04-05/ shows him with wings].
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** I wouldn't say "weak", but most likely that his body doesn't work right. In the sense that he couldn't do extraordinary things, but his body doesn't work well for day-to-day living.
*** He's faking. I recall him rowing the crew's boat and keeping up with Burgess on the other oar, who's enormous and can lift a hotel. Not to mention him carrying what appears to be some sort of very large weapon on his back...
*** Confirmed in Chapter 577. The weapon is a [[Sinister Scythe]].
* What did the Gorusei mean when they said that if the "3 World Powers were to collapse the world would descend into Chaos"? I think having all of the Pirates dead would give order rather than chaos.
** Well, those 3 powers includes the Marines, but not all of the pirates. In other words, there'd be a huge power vacuum, followed by a huge power struggle.
*** The Three World Powers are the Marines, the Seven Warlords of the Sea, and the Four Emperors (the four most powerful pirates in the world, including Whitebeard and Shanks, as well as two other unknowns). Right now it's an uneasy tension, but if something went wrong--the Warlords collapsed or were wiped out, for example--it could devolve into a massive war. Hell, the Four Emperors are equal enough that they barely keep each other in check, and an all-out war between them could cause mass devastation. Remember that Shanks is powerful enough to make people pass out ''just by being near him''.
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**** That is, however, just rumor. Only Vegapunk really knows a thing or two about Devil Fruit, and Rob Lucci (or some other [[CP 9]]) even mocked Jyabura for believing such rumors.
**** Wrong. The rumor he was mocked for believing was that he would blow up by just being near a devil fruit as a person who ate one. Eating a second one would still cause an explosion- http://www35.onemanga.com/One_Piece/385/03/
* Why did the World Government flat out annihilate Ohara and it's various treasures rather than take it's resources for themselves?
** Duh. It's because they're dickwads. Also, the level of intelligence we're dealing with here is that which shares genes with Spandam. Logic need not apply.
** It was because the scholars knew how to read poneglyphs which among other things contain information regarding the blank century and the Pluton/Poseidon blueprints. As for the resources, it's anyone's guess.
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* What makes the World Government think it can control the Seven Warlords of the Sea? Crocodile rebelled; what makes the Marines think that they can keep the other super-powerful pirates they're sheltering from trying to take over their half of the Grand Line?
** Because if they did they would not only have to fend off the Marines but also maybe the Four Emperors as well. Secondly Crocodile was searching for the Ancient Weapon Pluton which I wouldn't be surprised if he needed it to fend off the Marines as well as other groups.Thirdly I get the impression that the SB's are Pirates who were too strong for the MS or the YK's to defeat individually but too weak to fight both groups at once. Also I seriously doubt the WG really expects the SB to follow every single rule they make.
*** The Seven Warlords are basically privateers. They're not powerful enough to take out the World Government (and smart enough to know that outright challenging the World Government is a real good way to destabilize everything and get killed by the Four Emperors). They were made Warlords of the Sea because the World Government considered them a greater threat to other pirates than to the WG, and I'm ASSUMING that they just don't target Government-affiliated things. It's really a sweet deal-legal immunity and license to kill. Not to mention the Seven Warlords of the Sea being ''far'' too fractured and independent to band together as a force on any topic short of outright annihilation.
**** In case you haven't noticed, the WG doesn't really control the Warlords that well. Crocodile starts rebellion to try and takeover the world with the ancient, Moriah creates a zombie army to try and become pirate king, Mihawk runs around picking of pirates trying to enter the Grand Line, Kuma lets the Strawhats escape, and Doflamingo is plotting something involving the New Age and war with Whitebeard. They don't all come to meetings when called, and some consort with wanted pirates (Mihawk going to meet Shanks when the Strawhats first enter the Grand Line) Plus Kuma states in chapter 513 the Warlords have no obligation to the Marines except where the government is involved. They really are loose cannons, but since the Warlords aren't figured into the 3 Powers, it's most likely that they aren't strong enough to deal with the upper level marines and the Four Emperors.
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********* Also, wouldn't it be kind of pointless anyway? A buster call wouldn't destroy a treasure of gold and jewels (damage and scatter perhaps, but not completely destroy) and it would be unable to damage the Rio Poneglyph at all. It would be a worthless gesture and furthermore the smoke rising from the island would be a navigational aid making it that much easier for anyone else to get to it and find the undamaged Rio Poneglyph among the rubble and ashes.
** For the same reason none of the Four Emperors reached Raftel. Doing so is supposed to be ridiculously hard (for the reasons still unknown). Gold Roger was the first man in centuies who set foot on Raftel.
*** Yeah, I mean the Emperors are even closer than the WG why haven't they gone for it? There has to be stuff between them and Raftel which makes even Whitebeard and Shanks worried.
*** A recent flashback suggests that there is some trick to getting to Raftel. Rogers was going to tell Whitebread but Whitebread didn't care.
* What happens to Brook if he's submerged to water? I mean, since he's technically a dead guy, he doesn't need to breathe, right? So, while any other Devil Fruit user would just die, wouldn't Brook's fate be kinda a lot [[Fate Worse Than Death|worse than death?]]
** Presumably it might happen at a later date. Worse yet, since the Devil's Fruit is explicitly the reason why he's NOT dead, would water/Seastone just cause him to die again (possibly temporarily)?
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** I think it happened the moment they were cast to the wolves with only each other to depend on. Oda showed even Lucci was capable of affection when Hatori came back.
** This troper kinda assumed they had some sort of dark version of nakama relationship, or something to that effect.
** We see very little of CP9 when they aren't at work. But they seemed to be on good terms with each other, even despite Jyabura's rivalry with Lucci and other quarrels. The only time Lucci ever seemed relaxed and the only time he ever smiled outside of battle was while being alone with other CP9 members (the scene when Kaku and Califa ate their Devil Fruits). Also, Spandam framed CP9 for defeat of Enies Lobby, and taking pains to save your strongest fighter and leader, when you are on the run from the World Government, is just a display of common sense.
** All [[CP 9]] members were brought up together by World Government. http://beta.onemanga.com/One_Piece/565.5/15/ They are more like childhood friends than a band of professional assassins hired by World Government.
* What are Luffy and Zoro's power in Dourikis?
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*** This Troper's hypothesis is that All Blue is actually at the bottom of the ocean, or even further down than that, in another ocean BELOW the bottom of the ocean, an "underground ocean." The only way for pirates to get to the second half of the Grand Line is by traveling underwater to Fishman Island, which is beneath Mariejois (the World Government capital). Fishman Island is located on a "hole" in the Red Line, a passageway between one ocean and the other. It would make sense that All Blue is somewhere around this area; there's probably some way to get to Fishman Island from each of the other four oceans, like how it is on the opposite side of the world, on Reverse Mountain. Logically, if all four oceans have access to this one other area in the sea, that place would be All Blue. Also, finding All Blue AND the home of the Mermaids (Sanji's two biggest goals) in the same place would be the ultimate dream of the Strawhat Pirates' perverted cook. If this hypothesis is correct, finding All Blue/Mermaid city would be one epic moment.
**** Except, then Sanji's dream would have concluded halfway through the manga. This Troper's wild guess, is that Raftel is located on All Blue.
***** It might happen at Fishman Island, at which point he could say something like "I'd stick around for all eternity for Nami-san and Robin-chan!" while inwardly thinking about his bond with his [[Nakama]]. The crew's goals require them to go to the Grand Line, not necessarily Raftel (although that is Luffy, Robin and Franky's final destination, and Brook's is on the other side of Reverse Mountain),
** This is not my theory, but one of my friends suggested that All Blue may be UNDER Reverse Mountain, which would make sense due to the currents pouring in from each Blue, as well as its connection to the Calm Belts and the Grand Line. In a fic, she also had Zoro suggest that they could smash Reverse Moutain apart, forcing the seas to meet. MY theory is that All Blue lies directly BEYOND Raftel, in the X number of miles between the island and the Red Line.
* Yet so far, it's been implied that the only way into the Grand Line is up the mountain. But that route only goes one way. So how are pirates (like Gold Roger and Zeff) expected to leave the Grand Line when they're done? Do they just brave the Calm Belts or something?
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** Let me make myself more clear: a lot of websites list it as one of his attacks, but as far as I've seen in both the anime and the manga, he never gives a name, period. Ridiculously minor, I know, but it still bugs me.
* Related to Buggy up above, is it just me or was Crocodile ridiculously weak compared to the other Warlords of the Sea? Perhaps it's just his readily available elemental weakness, but he didn't seem anywhere near Kuma or Mihawk.
** Personally, I think one of the things Oda is best at is ''not'' putting characters up to these indisputable 'levels of power' that a lot of other animes have. He does it to a lesser extent, but your level isn't absolute. It also depends on circumstances. It's sorta like in real life, how the Red Sox might be shitloads better than the Yankees (hypothetical situation, but you know it's true) but that doesn't mean they'll win every game. Croc isn't weak, he just ran into the unstoppable force that is Luffy trying to protect his Nakama. In recent chapters he's just as kickass as Jimbei. (Raise your hands if you're waiting for the inevitable Jimbei-Croc smackdown that will occur the moment the 'escape impel down' truce is over). I mean, look at Mr. 3 for an example. He's the third most powerful guy in an arc that took place like six power ups ago, and he somehow manages to significantly delay the Big Bad of Impel down, who Luffy AND Iva couldn't take down.
** He definitely looks weaker than Kuma, but I think he was still about the same level as Moriah. It makes sense that there are some Warlords who are stronger than others.
*** He really wasn't all that weak; He owned Luffy's ass 2 times out of 3. Plus, he spends his time in Alabasta, which is in the "weaker" part of the Grand Line (compared to Kuma, who probably spends most of his time in the "stronger" New World.)
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**** I chalk it up to being the first to appear. It doesn't matter how badass or high-ranking you are if you're the boss of level 6 out of 100. :(
**** Since he was able to manipulate a whole country to the brink of civil war while remaining a hero in the public eye himself, this troper thinks that his power was more in the way of planning, strategy and social engineering rather than raw fighting power.
**** Yes he is. Being far too weak by the Grand Line standards (easily-exploited water weakness, cannot fully utilize his abilities at sea, isn't that strong physically, the only maimed Warlord of the Sea) and being incredibly bitter about it practically defines his character. Remember that Croc's dream is to become the Pirate King. He lost all hope of defeating other contenders without some sort of cheat, like Pluton, and is eager to humiliate those weaker than himself, precisely because of his own lack of real strength.
***** [http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/199/19/ Luffy suggests that he stole Alabasta's rain partly in order to guard against his weakness], which also suggests that he's strongest in his native terrain (when he fights Luffy in the desert, he can manipulate the sand in the ground in addition to becoming sand, making him stonger). He's presumably much less powerful at sea, and may have used his planning skills to get his Warlord title.
**** [[Dragonball Z Abridged|He's the Radditz of their group!]] But seriously, we're talking about a guy who can manipulate land-based weather on a large scale and instantly dehydrate people. He may be weak for a Logia user, but his power is still pretty earth-shattering when you think of how many things he was able to do.
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**** Oh, and, as an aside, we're talking about the top 0.00001% of the world here. Is Crocodile relatively weaker than the other top 0.00001%? Maybe, but he's still indisputably in that range. I mean, as a Logia-type, Crocodile already instantly owns 100% of all non-Devil Fruits, and 99% of all Devil Fruit users. It's like living with [[God Mode]] on.
***** The best way to describe Crocodile in terms of Warlord strength is as [[Weak but Skilled]]. He may not have Blackbeard's raw physical strength, Jinbe's martial art skills, or Hancock's knowledge of Haki (or maybe he does), but he has his intelligence, his experience and a complete mastery of his powers, which is still a [[Nigh Invulnerable|Logia-type]]. Why he lost to Luffy is because he suffered a [[Villainous Breakdown]] and did not use his powers like in Rounds 1 & 2 and forgot to [[Never Bring a Knife to A Fist Fight]], especially against someone like [[Confusion Fu|Luffy]].
***** I think it needs to be pointed out that it has been heavily implied(if not outright stated) that the guy that stopped Crocodile's rise to the top was '''WHITEBEARD HIMSELF'''. I think that kinda says a little about Crocodile's abilities. Just to clarify, though, being vulnerable to water may be a serious [[Weaksauce Weakness]] in the One Piece world, but remember that Crocodile is capable of eliminating moisture with his powers. After all, Crocodile still Curbstomped Luffy even ''after'' the latter found out about that weakness and started exploiting it; it wasn't until Luffy started using his own blood that Crocodile started losing his edge, and I wouldn't be surprised if Luffy was the first person to ever try that on him. To all the people claiming that Crocodile is physically weak, he stopped an attack from ''Mihawk'', 'nuff said; he may not be the strongest out there, but combined with his powers and intellect, he's definitely strong enough to at least competently take on pretty much anyone. And as someone mentioned above, Crocodile's loss to Luffy way back in Alabasta could probably be more chalked up to Croc getting sloppy and not bothering to use his powers rather than Croc simply being weak; after all, he did curbstomp Luffy twice, and when Luffy finally won, it took all the effort he could possibly muster just to knock Crocodile unconscious.
** Another theory is this: The Seven Warlords of the Sea may be like pirate bounties: It's not always ''how'' strong you are, such as how much of a threat you could become that can get you the title. This is evident in that they tried to recruit Ace back when he was still relatively green, because they feared what he could become. It also explains Blackbeard getting the title when he was a total unknown: Any total unknown that could bring in Ace could be a major threat in the future. Also, the most recent chapter has Buggy receiving a letter from the World Government, possibly to become a Warlord of the Sea, which makes sense when you think about it. Buggy's not all that strong, but his crew has just been buffed up with Impel Down escapees, he was on the ship of the Pirate King, is (supposedly) friends with one of the Four Emperors, ''and'' survived the Whitebeard War. This all makes him a very credible threat in the future, so it's best to get him on your side now. Considering all this, the Government probably wanted to control Crocodile before he became a major problem, not that it did them much good.
*** How about this, it took luffy THREE FULL BATTLES to beat Crocodile! all of the other villains will have at most two. And then consider this, Croc guarded his [[Weaksauce Weakness]] VERY tightly, for several years, so pbviously in his second fight he would have been very suprised, but then using your own blood must have been the icing on the cake, because would you really expect something like that, even if you had Crocodile's brains? Plus, Luffy only managed to survive through an incredible mountain of luck (first battle:Robin appears out of the blue to save his ass, second battle: one of the water bubbles Luffy fired just happened to float down onto his face, third battle: Luffy decides to [[Chronic Hero Syndrome|save Robin]] who just happened to have an antidote to Crocodile's poison). Oh and this man also considers [[Person of Mass Destruction|WHITE]][[World's Strongest Man|BEARD]] his [[Worthy Opponent]]
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*** Are oceans in One Piece really that deep? That's insane. For reference, the deepest ocean trench on Earth is less than 7 miles. The world of One Piece is significantly bigger than our sun.
**** The only definitive comment about how deep the oceans get is in reference to Fishman Island, at 10,000 meters. No idea where that 1 million miles thing came from.
** He doesn't have "infinite stretchy limbs." In at least one author interview, the author stated that devil fruit powers like the gum-gum and chop-chop fruit powers have a limit on how far from the person they can actually work (I think Luffy's may have been a distance of some 32-36 gum-gum fruit, and Buggy had trained for a lot longer and could therefore control his limbs up to 100 chop-chop fruit lengths away). It is probablye, given the reappearance of Buggy, sans body, that it is a limit on control rather than a limit on the power not working at all.
*** Oda is notorious for giving nonsensical answers to that sort of thing, which I entirely understand since it keeps him from [[Word of God]]-ing himself into a corner. The implication was that there was a physical limit to the range but that he wasn't going to share the specs.
** That's not how Luffy's powers work. He's not like Mr. Fantastic - he doesn't just stretch on command. He literally works like rubber. He's not going to stretch unless there's some force behind it, and it snaps back as soon as possible.
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* Why didn't [[Ao Kiji]] suffer the effects of putting his hands in the water when he froze part of the ocean for stranded people to cross? He clearly dipped both his hands into the sea, which should at least dizzy out a Devil Fruit user.
** That only comes into effect when the user is almost or completely submerged. There have been times when Luffy and others have been in knee-deep water and they've been fine.
** During the fight with Calipha, Nami stated that a Devil Fruit weakness starts kicking in when their body is 50% submerged. So Luffy can still use his powers if he's ankle-deep in shallow seawater, for instance.
* What in the world made the World Government think that that Very Good could take CP9 back into custody? He was a mere part of a horde of [[Superpowered Mooks]] who lost to the Straw Hats, who also beat CP9. Odds were not good.
** Captain Very Good was leading the whole capture raid. Apparently, I think the World Government thought he would be a good lead because of his devil fruit advantage. I guess the World Government underestimated CP9 and their skills.
** Maybe they thought that CP9 suffered some permanent damage at Enies Lobby, as all members were mauled really badly. Maybe that's just another display of incompetence on the part of Spandam and his buddies.
** The search was organized by ''Spandam'', who has been shown time and time again that he is ''massively'' incompetent. Mistaking the device that sends the message for the Buster Call for your cell phone, anyone?
* Why does Robin call Nami "Nami-chan" when speaking of her, but address her as "Nami," without honorifics. For example, in Movie 9, Robin says, "As expected, Nami," after Nami helps the crew escape a storm by predicting it, but when she collapses seconds later, Robin yells, "Nami-chan has a terrible fever!"
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** ''Mero'' is a sound effect for "falling in love", so I'd say "swoon" works.
** I doubt the devil fruit that Hancock ate had an effect on her appearance, at least not majorly. It's more to do with the effect she has on people. Also a lot you forget that she also has the ability to turn people into stone, so that be seen as entertaining to the World Nobles.
** I was under the impression that her powers only worked on those who were attracted to her, which is why [[Chaste Hero]] Luffy was immune. Considering that the World Noble's saw her as property, I think its safe to assume that her powers wouldn't work against them.
*** Recently we've seen her petrify ''cannonballs'', so who knows what's supposed to be going on with her.
*** While I agree it sounds plausible that they had no idea what the fruit would do (especially since documentation on the fruit is pretty sparse), the ability to petrify people is a function of her fruit,
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** According to one of the cover spreads, and the latest anime opening, Zoro has reading glasses too. (maybe that's why he's always squinting!)
*** Dudes! Fanservice, [[Glasses Girl|glasses are hot]]!
** From what I have seen of manga in general (which is quite a lot), glasses are equated with intellectual pursuits, especially with reading and studying. Thus, even characters with perfectly good vision occasionally use reading glasses as a preventative measure, or to look 'smarter'.
*** And heck, there's nothing saying Nami and Zoro aren't just mildly far-sighted. They don't really need glasses for anything other than reading, so they don't wear them except for that purpose. And before anyone objects to that idea... most of what we see being 'read' are big signs at a distance, which would be no problem for far-sighted people without glasses. Of course, this makes no excuse for Nami reading the newspaper without glasses, but if she has a mild enough case, she might only need glasses for highly-detailed mapmaking or prolonged studying.
*** This troper has multiple family members who are far-sighted in varying degrees, and this seems quite plausible.
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* Something that quite bugged me while reading through some old mangas: Skypieans really have wings, or those things are actually accessories? And, being one thing or another, why do Shandians have wings, too?
** Yes, they really have wings. If you read Enel's Cover Story you'll find out that the ancestors of the Shandians; the Shandorians, along with the Skypeians and Bilkans originally came from the Moon.
** It's possible that the wings are a vestigial feature. Humans don't have tails, but we still have a tailbone.
*** Which is used to support the muscles that keep us from pooping our pants!
** Also, on a related note... why does Gan Fall not have wings? Both the Skypeians and Shandians have wings, but Gan Fall does not. Neither do the Priests of Enel. Why?!
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*** When you think about it, why couldn't you see the inside of Brook's skull if there was no shadow in there?
*** because A) this is ONE PIECE, and physicics are already treated more like suggestions, and B) devil fruits are magic, and therefore unexplainable
* If Nico Robin is such a threat to the WG that they would put a bounty on her head since the age of 8 due to possible nasty secrets she'd be able to decipher about the WG, why didn't Dragon the Revolutionary pick her up before the events of the story?
** I don't think she trusted anyone at that point, and would rather make it on her own ability to manipulate people, because the people she DID trust and thought were nice always turned her in. Not to mention Dragon probably has so much on his plate GLOBALLY that it isn't surprising one eight year old girl slipped by. Not to mention I doubt they put "Has skills that are an enormous threat to the stability of the world government, and might be helpful to revolutionaries" on her bounty poster.
** Two possible explanations: either he hadn't operated on the first half of the Grand Line yet, or she had reasons to trust his agents even less than everyone else. As far as we can guess, Dragon is not a good guy.
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*** No, person two would stay the same as they were. The second person would be eating the fruit as if it were just a regular fruit. A regular fruit that tastes really horrible. Only the first person who ate the fruit or swallowed it first will have all pros and cons of the devil fruit.
* If Sanji has to go on a big, huge quest to find the All Blue, who does he expect his customer base to be? Rich people who happen upon the all blue and don;t have a 5-star chef? People who got stuck there? That people will sail a path to his door once he starts a restaurant in a place that is mythically hard to find? Or did he just hear Zeff talk about it so much that he just never thought it through?
** It's fanon that states he wants to stay there and open a restaurant. The restaurant was ZEFF's dream, not his. Sanji just want's to prove it exists. After they find it, he's still gonna be cook for the Strawhats after all! Like Luffy would let him quit, and like he'd want to.
** His dream is basically to be able to make a great meal from the sea life found there. Nothing about opening up a restaurant or anything like that.
* So what the Hell is with the Tashigi/Kuina thing? Did Kuina [[Heroic Willpower|bring herself back to life with sheer will and just come back to life somewhere else in the world?]] Is it just a [[They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot|pointless coincidence made to tick Zoro off and isn't going anywhere?]]
** IMO, the evidence is in favor the former, although those with an opinion on the subject seem to prefer the latter. Not sure why, though; the first one is more epic and suits the story more. (Plus, come on, it would eventually be pure [[Crowning Moment of Heartwarming]], and Oda never resists a chance to pull those.)
** Evidence? Tashigi doesn't even have the same DREAM as Kuina. And if it was will bringing her back from the dead, then it would probably be in relation to that ever so important promise, wouldn't it? I think Oda's stated (but don't hold me to this, I heard it from someone else!) that they aren't the same person, and I think it's meant to be a coincidence that keeps Zoro from killing her in the first fight.
*** That may be because [[Back From the Dead]] is a common [[Pet Peeve Trope]]. It wouldn't necessarily be bad if it's built up well and is a single really special occasion rather than to pull a cheap drama trick, though.
*** Where the latter got placed in the [[Sorting Algorithm of Deadness]] doesn't help. Unless, of course, that part was intentional to throw off a majority of the readership....
*** I, personally, disregard the above. MY NAKAMA-SHIP [[One True Pairing|OTP]] CANNOT DIIIIE. ZORO SHOULDN'T HAVE TO WORK TO FULFILL THE PROMISE ALOOOONE. THAT KIND OF THING IS THE HEART OF THE STOOORRRYYY.
** In the manga, the viewer can actually [http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/5/16/ see Kuina's body] at her wake, which makes it harder to claim that [[He's Just Hiding|she's just hiding]] and possibly amnesiac.
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** Damn. This is controversial. Can I say "I don't claim to know where this story is going, and neither should you?"
** This troper always figured it was just a matter of Kuina and Tashigi being twin sisters who were separated at birth. Unless Oda has said otherwise in an SBS, I'll continue to believe that.
** Unfortunately, in a recent Q&A done by Viz for the American Shonen Jump magazine, Oda did say that it was indeed a coincidence, and even explicitly said that there's not going to be any backstory where she turns out to be Kunia's sister or anything like that.
*** What do you mean by "unfortunately"? Do you have any clue how relieved [[This Troper]] was to read that? The uncertainty around the whole deal was bugging me for way too long; it's good to hear something that makes all the fan speculation void, even if it's a little disappointing.
* When Kumadori escapes from the fridge, he seems to have gained about three hundred pounds. Chopper then says something about how he's never seen anyone who could do that. The heck? Did he forget about someone? I think his name was Monkey D. Luffy. Even Usopp has been shown to be capable of acts of extreme gluttony. Of course, Chopper isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer, but still, spending several weeks, at least, traveling with Luffy's group and forgetting about Luffy's gluttony is a personal best when it comes to stupidity.
** You gotta remember that Luffy has a stomach made out of rubber, so eating until he becomes a huge balloon is easy for him, but for a human without Devil Fruit powers (such as Kumadori), this act is seen as completely implausible, so I think we'd all be surprised to see something like that happen when the consumer in question isn't made out of rubber.
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* Does this bug anyone else, throughout the Crocodile arc, the Marines and World Government were good, if not slightly incompetent people for the most part. Smoker was even introduced as a Jerk with a Heart of Gold. Then suddenly they are the most evil organization ever, with a serious evil upgrade. CP9 and Impel Down in particular, that and Smoker's role has been reduced to that of Cameo appearances, seriously he fought against Ace and kicked Luffy's ass. So what is up, with the sudden mood shift?
** Smoker is SUPPOSED to be sorta maverick. See the end of the arc when the WG completely buries Smoker's report, to his fury, and promotes him rather than admit they screwed up. That entire bit alludes to the problems they'd have in the future with the WG. Not to mention, Smoker is disregarding orders even BEING there chasing Strawhat.
** It's probably because 1) The story has gotten darker and 2) Smoker has to share screen-time with [[Loads and Loads of Characters]], and we haven't gotten to the part where his role in the story is huge. Also, there are plenty of good people in the World Government (Smoker, Tashigi, Hina, Coby, etc.) but the government itself being deeply corrupt has been firmly established ever since the Arlong Arc.
** The World Government didn't really feature much in the beginning of the story, so not much can really be said about how "good" or "evil" they were back then. And even in Alabasta, the lost history was mentioned, dropping the first hints about the true nature of the WG. As for the Marines, while their ideals are righteous, they've had many corrupt members from the very start. Consider Morgan, Fullbody (who may not have been so much corrupt as he was a total jerk) and Nezumi. In fact, I believe Smoker and Tashigi were the first significant Marine characters to be portrayed as truly good people.
** Though this troper thought the implied baby-killing in the latest chapter was pushing it.
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** The other guards in Impel Down have commented on this, it seems to be just his thing.
*** instead of these complicated means (which probably wont work in the first place, and are way more likely to hinder him) wouldn't it be easier to ''stop eating those poisons?'' it's not like he has to.
* Just what do the Admirals ''do'' when they're not on-screen? They seem capable of curb stomping just about anybody short of a Four Emperors, and yet they apparently spend all their time at HQ (note the comment that the Celestial Dragons being so close to HQ meant that when they call for an admiral, "it could be anyone"). So in an age of rampant piracy, the most ridiculously powerful assets to the forces of law are doing paperwork and guard duty back at the base? Perhaps it will become the case, current events being what they are, but it's rather baffling that the Straw Hats don't have at least a Vice Admiral or two permanently assigned to tracking them and taking them down.
** Admirals do whatever they want, as long as it is near the Marine HQ so they can be summoned on short notices. That is assuming that they have to stay near the HQ to protect the base in case of an attack that is a force to reckon with. Of course, all vice admirals are also probably spread apart in different areas, and the Marine HQ don't have time to waste a vice admiral just on one pirate crew. In short, Admirals and Vice-Admirals probably don't waste their time on just single small pirate crews, but possible higher-threat level crews. Also, the Marine HQ is pinned down with Whitebeard, the rest of the Four Emperors and the revolutionaries. So why tire your best forces on petty pirate crews or trivial matters? Even if they were sent to deal with problems with the world, there are just too many and some well undercover.
*** ...I'm sorry, but a pirate crew that defeated two out of seven Warlords of the Sea, their supporting organizations and the World Government's top unit of assassins and then declared war on the World Government is a ''trivial matter''?
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** And now we have an answer. Van Der Decken, a Fishman that is ''heavily'' implied (not outright stated, but all the circumstances leave absolutely no other interpretation) to have eaten the Mato Mato Fruit. When underwater, he covers his whole upper body with a diving bubble, and is reluctant to stick his hand out for a handshake without a glove on. He seems to have the same water weakness as all the other Fruit eaters.
*** The glove thing prevents him from using his target powers. He needs to touch someone or something to do it.
* Emporio Ivankov. Just [[Attractive Bent Gender|Emporio Ivankov]]. I am aware of Oda's [[Author Appeal]] for [[Designated Girl Fight|Designated Girl Fights]]. But I manage, since [[Tropes Are Not Bad|it never hurt the series]]. I can even manage how Califfa was pretty much [[Chickification|Chickified]] in order to make Nami keep up with her. But Emporio Ivankov just makes me want to scratch my eyes out.
** ...because he used his powers to fight? It's very possible that Ivankov transformed just to humiliate Sadi-chan.
** And it's probably supposed to be a little badass and subversive that Iva fought as a woman. Remember, this series has brought up the issue of women not being as physically strong as men for the most part a few times; it's actually pretty refreshing to portray a character who'd sometimes ''prefer'' being a woman during a fight, and embraces both his/her masculinity and femininity. The unabashed love he has for both his maleness and femaleness is why Iva is awesome.
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*** Rayleigh just fended off Kizaru for a few minutes. Kizaru probably didn't use his full power at the time since he was just being forced to capture some weak pirates for the nobles, capturing Rayleigh wasn't his objective, and clearly wasn't taking the job very seriously. If he fought at full power, Rayleigh might not have a chance to win the fight.
*** But remember, by that time Rayleigh was an old drunk and ship coater who probably hadn't seriously fought in years, so was probably a little rusty, and Kizaru was a much younger man. In his prime, he most likely could have beaten any of the Admirals one-on-one. Also, I believe the fact that Garp is only a Vice-Admiral being more politically motivated than his strength. Remember, he's got a rather... abrasive personality, and is the father of an infamous criminal, and grandfather to two more, one of whom is the son of Gold Roger. The reason he managed to get so high in the Marines in spite of those facts is a testament to his strength, in my opinion.
**** according to chapter 0, garp was offered a spot as an admiral several times by Fleet Admiral Kong but denied it everytime. SO yes Garp is easily admiral level.
*** Okay, if the 3 Admirals did surpass Roger/Whitebeard/Garp/Rayleigh then why haven't they wiped out the likes of Whitebeard's pirate crew? Sengoku wouldn't have been freaking out so much if he had 3 guys who were stronger than the likes of Roger.
**** Becouse if they made a move for Whitebeard, other Emperors would help him too. Plus, if you move your three most powerful fighters to New World (with their respective crews, mostly involving crapload of footsoldiers and captains), Marine HQ will be vulnerable to attack by anyone. Warlords? Supernovas? Revolutionaries? Emperors? Someone else? Also, keep in mind that Whitebeard's men aren't slouches and chances are they'll meet someone who can keep up with Admirals, maybe has a power that could nullify theirs? Either way, its a lose-lose situation.
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* Why limit yourself to only seven Warlords? Why not go to every powerful pirate who isn't an Emperor and give them a Letter of Marque?
** That would ruin the ''[[Seven Samurai]]'' [[Shout-Out]].
** Plus, consider all of the havoc that the Seven Warlords of the Sea can wreak with the Government's legal protection. These guys are highly untrustworthy and liable to abuse their power. The Government probably just wants to keep the number of them manageable, because having even more would 1. make it harder to keep track of the individual machinations of each one and 2. give too much power to too many pirates who are likely just in it for the profit. They have a hard enough time keeping pirates like Hancock, Moriah, and Donflamingo under some sort of observation; it would probably be too much effort to add any more treacherous and dangerous pirates to the bunch.
* Could Buggy eat or drink while his head is detached? Would the swallowed food teleport into his esophagus/stomach?
** Considering that he's already done that ''and'' appears to have no circulatory problem despite having spent days/weeks without his heart, lungs and the rest of his main body, I'd say yes.
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** Because [[Smoking Is Cool]]. No, seriously, that's his reason. One of his flashbacks shows the ten or so year old Sanji proclaiming that he's "Now a man!".
** Zeff points this out, but Sanji doesn't care.
* What would happen if you attacked Buggy with a drill? Or a syringe?
** He seems to be immune to slashing damage, not piercing damage. He could probably protect himself by splitting before the attack reached him, though.
* What the Hell is going on with those translators over at Shonen Jump? Everyone and their mamas knows what happens in the next bunch of arcs and they're still on Alabasta.
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** [[Word of God]] says that the reason Marigold filled out was because she put herself through the same kind of training regimen that sumo wrestlers do. It's possible that maybe some of the other Amazons did something similar.
* Why do people keep insisting that Roronoa name is Zoro instead of Zolo. While his name is obviously supposed to remind people of the legendary Spanish swordsman and spelling it like that is obviously [[Writting Around Trademarks]] is every official translation that I have seen his name is spelled with an L instead of an R.
** [[Word of God|Because that's how Oda spells it on Zoro's bounty poster.]]
** But it's so fun to watch the more hard-core fans squirm...
** And Portuguese translation writes it with R. I was bugged to find out he was called "Zolo" in any other language... (And Luffy, too)
*** It's Ruffy and Zorro in the official German releases.
*** It's also Zorro in the official French release, and they even call him "Zorro Roronoa", but kept "Monkey D. Luffy". A good indication over the quality of the French release.
** It's called Zoro in Italy, albeit his surname was first translated as "Loronoa", then "Roronoa", then "Rolonoa" and finally set back up on Roronoa. Also Luffy is called Rufy. Except in the bowdlerised anime where he's called <s> Monkey D.</s> Rubber.
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** It's to indicate what 'rough' characters they are. It's not like pirates are supposed to be polite company. There's not really any other way to convey this in American language.
** They get a lot better about after a while; there's still occasional swearing, but people aren't saying "bastard" every other minute.
** Ever been on a bus? I have, and there are sometimes people who practically speak in swears. The point of this little sidestory is that people swear, all the time. As for Sanji, he's always been a spitfire from what I can tell.
** I don't believe Japanese treat swears the same way we do. And [[Fridge Logic|when you think about it]], the whole "bad word" concept we have is kind of absurd anyway. It just so happens that swear words are the closest thing English has to those particular expressions.
*** I agree that English swearing is the closest equivalent to the kind of speech they use in Japanese, but it's far from acceptable. Talking like most anime/manga characters (who use informal and often rough speech) to anyone who isn't a close friend is very much frowned upon, because polite speech is what's socially acceptable.
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* I know that it's dumb to complain about anime filler, but still, the invention of some of these Devil Fruits just pisses me off. And I don't mean cool ones, I mean ones like Apis' Hiso-Hiso-Fruit, which lets her talk to animals. Did they really need that so she could talk to a DRAGON!? IT'S A DRAGON! Luffy seems to understand it just fine! Why couldn't they just say something like the dragon can communicate with individuals it trusts on a spiritual level or something? IT'S! A! DRAGON!
** Because without running into [[MacGuffin Girl|Apis]] they wouldn't have a reason to get sidetracked from heading to the Grand Line and ending up on Warship Island in the first place.
** I agree that was dumb to think up that Devil Fruit, hopefully there would be more to that power that only would take a more strong minded person to unlock, but to be fair only Luffy and Apis could understand the Dragon, and with Luffy it's debatable if Luffy really knew what the Dragon was saying or just making it up and seemingly getting it right.
** Another problem with the Hiso Hiso fruit is that it doesn't fit into the Paramecia, Logia or Zoan classes of fruits. Oda could make up a new class of fruit later on, but it seemed like a cheap way to give Apis the power.
*** No, it's a Paramecia. Logia lets you produce and change your body into an element of nature; Zoan lets you tranform into an animal, and Paramecia is a catch-all category for everything else. And how does it not fit in Paramecia with other fruits like Hana Hana, Mato Mato, Woshu Woshu (Vice-Admiral Tsuru's), and Doa Doa, among other patently absurd ones.
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* Shippers right now are pissing me off with talk that Boa Hancock will trick Luffy into marrying her like Chi-Chi did Goku. Disregard that Goku was a complete moron who understood nothing about the world while Luffy is rather intelligent and has already refused a proposal, but what pisses me off is the way they say "Because Oda is a fan or [[Dragon Ball]]" because ya know when your a fan of something that means you rip it off instead of paying homage.
** Well Oda is more than just a fan of [[Dragon Ball]], he's one of Toriyama's former apprentices.
*** Ummm...no, he wasn't. He was an assistant for another manga artist for a time, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't say anywhere Oda ever worked for Toriyama.
** Shippers have a long, bloody history of claiming dubious evidence as "proof" of their ship being canon. (see Zutarians and Harmonians) When OP shippers do it, it tends to be extra...."special".
* Also in episode 304, when the wall of the stair/tunnel/support structure is destroyed, water rushes in at a slower rate than when the others ( Nami, Kokoro etc) encounter it. It should be the opposite and the water level should rise gradually given that the tunnel is quite long.
* In episode 304, during the flashback, when Luffy activates his Gear third, he becomes luminous and a shadow of his body is seen on the wall. Shadows occur when an object blocks the path of light, Luffy was the light source, so his shadow should not have been possible.
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** Enel's cover story showed that Shandorians, Skypieans and Bilkans share a common origin: they're all winged people from the Moon. Yep.
*** That still doesn't really make sense, since they lived down on Jaya before the Knuckup stream sent them to Skypiea. Unless this troper missed something and they did actually have wings before they were sent to Skypiea.
**** They HAD wings before they were sent to Skypiea (Calgara had wings, for example). Apparently, after leaving the Moon, Skypienas and Bilkans settled on Sky Island while Shandorians opted for Jaya... untile the Knock-Up Stream decided otherwise.
* When Rayleigh discusses Luffy's message to his crew, he says (paraphrased) "they should all get it, well there was one who weren't too bright but i think it will be allright". Then we are shown each crewmembers reaction to the message, and they all understand instantly right away, except for Zoro, who is on the verge of getting the message. Did Rayleigh think of Zoro as dumb? He's not the smartest of the crew (that would be Nami) and he certainly has no sense of directions, but he's no dimwit.
** Just because he doesn't think of Zoro as bright doesn't mean he thinks he's an idiot. He just felt Zoro wouldn't catch the message.
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