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[[File:OgreMage.jpg|link=War CraftWarcraft|frame|Two heads are hungrier than one.]]
 
 
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* Most [[Fairy Tale]] ogres are the stupid and brutal kind.
* In ''Puss-in-Boots'', the ogre is a shape-shifting brute, who owns a large amount of land. In order to get his poor master some land to trick a king into thinking he is royal, the eponymous cat tricks him to turn into a mouse so he can eat him.
* A notable exception to the typical use of the trope is in the famous ''[[Jack and Thethe Beanstalk]]'' story, where the giant's wife, who is usually portrayed as nice enough to try to get Jack to leave without harming him, is often described as an ogress.
* In ''[[Sleeping Beauty]]'', the prince's mother is an evil ogress who tries to eat her own grandchildren.
* In one ''[[Arabian Nights (Literature)|Arabian Nights]]'' story, a prince (whose vizier is actually using an [[Uriah Gambit]] on him) encounters an "ogress" who appears at first as a beautiful woman, but then shapeshifts into a monster who tries to feed the prince to her children. The magical powers and ability to deceive seem incongruous for an ogre, but very much in keeping with [[Our Ghouls Are Creepier|a ghul]], so ogress might just be a translation.
 
== [[Film]] ==
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== [[Literature]] ==
* Ogres of ''[[Xanth (Literature)|Xanth]]''. Magic makes them strong, and also makes them rhyme. They were originally portrayed as stupid brutes, but this was later shown to vary with the individual (and several fake it for cultural reasons).
* In the ''[[Spiderwick Chronicles]]'' (the fifth book), Mulgarath, the primary antagonist, is an evil ogre who wants to enslave the world, ridding it of all humans.
** Mulgarath actually dosn't fit into any of the archetypes listed above. He's very smart, very cunning, and knows when to change forms, even if the new form is weaker. A better fit to the above archetype are the trolls, who are supposedly [[Big Eater|afflicted with never ending hunger]].
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* In [[Tamora Pierce]]'s books that revolve around the [[Tortall Universe]], there are two kinds of ogres: peaceful farmers and warlike monsters. Both types are extremely tall and often seem menacing. In her book ''Wolf-Speaker'', the peaceful "breed" are slaves who mine black opals.
* Master vampires in Nancy A. Collins's ''Sonja Blue Trilogy'' often employ ogres, both as dumb muscle and as walking garbage disposals, consuming drained corpses when the master doesn't want to add to his/her brood. In reference to their Western [[Fairy Tale]] origins, they have a tendency to be [[Nightmare Fuel|child molesters]].
* Ogres and ogre/human hybrids are fairly common in the ''[[Garrett PIP.I.]]'' series, appearing repeatedly as Mooks for the villains, and taking a major role in ''Bitter Gold Hearts''.
 
== [[Live Action Television]] ==
* In the British science-fiction series ''[[Doctor Who]]'', aliens called Ogri, which resemble large rocks and feed on blood appear in The Stones of Blood. The Doctor suggests that Gog, Magog, and Ogre could derive from this.
** Also in ''[[Doctor Who]]'', the evil Daleks use a race of large, unintelligent humanoid brutes called Ogrons as warrior-slaves. The Ogrons are featured in the stories "Day of the Daleks", "Frontier in Space", and very briefly in "Carnival of Monsters".
* ''[[Special Unit 2 (TV)|Special Unit 2]]'' featured [[Jack the Ripper]] as an ogre who was compelled to devour humans. He tried to limit himself to hookers and prostitutes and developed a serum to control his instincts, but was losing control when SU2 tracked down and killed him.
 
== [[Tabletop RPG]] ==
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** Ogres are a very common race in ''[[Dragonlance]]'' and are even more inclined toward evil than [[Our Goblins Are Different|goblins]]. They're an offshoot of the beautiful, human-shaped irda race, whose civilization descended into depravity ages ago and most of whom were cursed by the gods. The ogre race actually includes not just common ogres and irda, but also ogre magi, hags, and giants. After the Summer of Chaos, some savage ogres underwent magic rituals to transform themselves into the massive, beautiful, and wholly evil titans.
** Merrows are an aquatic offshoot of ogres. They breathe underwater, have scaly blue skin, and use spears instead of clubs, but are otherwise similar to normal ogres. (Note that in real-world Irish folklore, merrows were actually a kind of (generally good-natured) [[Our Mermaids Are Different|merfolk]].
** Ogrun in the ''[[Iron Kingdoms]]'' setting are more like [[War CraftWarcraft|Blizzard-style]] [[Our Orcs Are Different|orcs]], being a shamanist [[Proud Warrior Race Guy]] PC race. Being a people who hold [[The Fettered|loyalty and service]] as the highest ideal, [[My Master, Right or Wrong|their sworn lord's alignment]] probably shapes much of their own behaviour.
* ''[[Warhammer]]'' Ogres have a society influenced by the Mongols, and wield a strange form of Gut Magic, which depends on what the caster ate. They literally worship the concept of hunger and practice rampant cannibalism, eating both other sentient races and their own kind; a [[Klingon Promotion]] generally entails the usurper devouring its predecessor. Some are captured by the Skaven to be turned into Rat Ogres.
* In ''[[Warhammer 40 K40000]]'', Ogryns are big, stupid mutant humans that live in stone-aged tribal societies. They look like ''Warhammer Fantasy'''s Ogres, but are [[Dumb Is Good|rather friendly by 40K standards]]: They're basically large, mischievous children who like clubbing things and having cleverer people tell them what to club. They are also ''capable'' of acting civilized (even if most don't).
** Specifically they become mostly capable of acting civilized after being upgraded to ''merely stupid'' with neural implants.
* Hungarian tabletop RPG/book series "World of Chaos" (like Tolkien except all the elves and dwarves are missing -imagine a [[WoW]] where the Horde has won - with the half-orc Skandar Graun acting as the main protagonist). Ogres are a major race and are given even more mutations (extra horns, heads, limbs etc.) to pick from.
* ''[[Rune Quest]]'' ogres look like attractive human beings, but have a genetic predisposition to anthropophagy. They deliberately spread disinformation to the effect that all ogres are hideously deformed and unsanitary.
* The Ogres of ''[[GURPS]]: Banestorm'' are among the Elder Folk of Yrth but by far the least advanced of everyone, even the orcs are cultured and intelligent compared to them. Their only saving grace is that they're stronger and tougher than every other species.
* In ''[[Changeling: The Lost (Tabletop Game)|Changeling: The Lost]]'' Ogres are those abductees who were warped by abusive behaviour into tough, violent and large monsters, often with a penchant for human flesh. Their stereotypical view of humans is "''You're beautiful. On the other hand, you taste like chicken.''" Overlaps with [[All Trolls Are Different]], as some trolls are water-themed ogres.
** In the older ''[[Changeling: The Dreaming]]'', "ogre" was often used to refer to Unseelie Trolls, but Ogres proper were a separate race of fae associated exclusively with the Unseelie Court. They're typically extremely strong and resilient, but dumber than lobotomized rocks.
* Ogres are a staple creature type for red and black in [[Magic: theThe Gathering]]. Those that have special abilities tend to be able to harm their controller or other friendly creatures.
* Ogres in [[Shadowrun]] are a variant of Orc who are actually rather short. Also hairless, with protruding jaws.
 
== [[Video Games]] ==
* ''[[War CraftWarcraft]]'''s ogres are large, dim-witted humanoids that either attack with a club or their fists. In the first game, they were a random neutral threat, but the second one promoted them to underlings of [[The Horde]]. WC2 also presented the ogre-magi (inspired by ''[[Dungeons and Dragons]]'' Ogre Magi, which in turn are based on Japanese oni), which were even turned blue-skinned in the second sequel. Notably, the two-headed variants are freaks of nature magically created by an orc warlock to boost their intelligence.
** Also, in a small subversion, in ''[[World of Warcraft]]'' there's a quest where you run into a two-headed ogre who's quite intelligent, and heckles you for thinking all Ogres speak in a [[You No Take Candle]] fashion.
** Actually, one Alliance questgiver advised the player to never consider them to be the idiots that they appear to be, because that's when they usually strike.