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*** I see your point with regard to your last two sentences. No question, it's inescapable that nearly all the main characters are now revealed to be, or possibly to be, gay or bi, and I can see how that tilting of the scales would seem unlikely or unrealistic to some, given that, as easy as it is to forget in modern-day Fandomland, the majority of people are straight. It's really a question of how much, well, "it just bugs" the reader. In my case, not much at all, but [[Your Mileage May Vary]].
* The whole plot (Plot? What Plot?) confusion. Seriously, since the start of the last arc, they start new stories all the time, and just when you feel it may start to make sense, they jump to another story. What do you have to do to make sense of it??
** I agree... somewhat... After the end of the Lollipop Wars(Or wathever) a couple of arcs seemed interesting enough to go from there in new directions... Darren seemed a nice character to explore, and might have been a nice boyfriend for Aggie(Even if they have made a couple of Archie-gags of there) But no, it turns out Aggie was actually never interested.... despite all the proof that she was... The Hamlet storyline was interesting, as was the "Sara goes to Hollywood" one... and then it got cut for some other stuff.
*** The hollywood storyline is still going on. It's just that it's in the background right now and more important stuff is going on with the ''rest'' of the cast right now. Putting complete and total focus on a rather small character when she's off on her own might come off to the readers as some attempt to make a spin-off comic or something.
**** A Sarah spinoff would be AWESOME. Anyway, She is FAR from being a "rather small" character, as she has been an important part of the ensemble since day 1(And was one of the first people to be friends with both Penny and Aggie). And her plot was more interesting that having elections ''again'' and the whole cast have to join together against a common foe... ''again''.
**** Um, no. She started out as just one of Penny's background lackey's. Now she's one of the lower level supporting characters. The rest of your statement is just subjective.
* The entry on [[Wrong Genre Savvy]] bugs me. Both "Diablo Cody" and "Disney Channel movie" aren't genres and are pretty diverse.
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*** It's not like you're saying you want to rewrite the entire page. If a trope isn't relevant, fix it. If it's subjective, move it to the your mileage may vary. It's not that big of a deal that we need hold discussions over every minute edit.
* Why are people so much quicker to point to Aggie's [[Coming Out Story]] than Penny's? Penny has the [[Homoerotic Dream]] from her time with Duane, the fantasy from "2020 Pennies," the whole "rape" fiasco, the hanging-by-a-thread denial from the Darren Danforth storyline, and Aggie has ''briefly'' touching on the idea early on, getting a little flustered when she ran into Karen, Karen's assumptions, that blink-and-you'll-miss-it moment in the tiger dream, the single [[Homoerotic Dream]] about a ''mannequin'', and another brief flirtation with the idea (and Xena). Still, on the forum and on this wiki, people are routinely putting her next to Sara and ignoring Penny completely. In short, Penny's thoughts have unconsciously run back to Aggie every time her thoughts have turned to romance at all, and Aggie's twice considered the idea, and those times more or less deliberately, had two dreams that rather obliquely hint she might be attracted to girls/Penny, and had one [[Stupid Sexy Flanders]] moment. I'm sorry, but all I can think of is that you're jumping headlong into stereotypes.
** As a regular participant on the comic's forum, I can attest that there's been plenty of acknowledgement there of Penny being anything but 100% straight; indeed, the prevailing view there seems to be that she's much further along the discovery process than Aggie. But just out of curiosity, which bit did you see as Aggie's [[Stupid Sexy Flanders]] moment? Crashing into Karen's chest? That was definitely signficant in terms of hinting at her sexuality, but the trope there is more [[Funbag Airbag]], I think. As for [[Stupid Sexy Flanders]], while I was writing the [[Penny and Aggie
*** Hmm... no. Not even slightly. She doesn't come off as even slightly attracted to anyone she's picturing, only horrified that so many might find a male Penny attractive.
* Katy-Ann's hair. Think of ''every girl you've ever known'' with brightly dyed hair. Think of Katy-Ann. Think of the Pennies and their ilk in general, especially in the first few arcs. Yeah.
** What of it?
*** I think what he/she is getting at is that ladies with unnaturally dyed hair tend to be associated more with the "alt" scene, while Penny's group, "especially in the first few arcs," is of a more WASP-y persuasion than it is anything near alternative. If I'm not mistaken, Lisa said something related (hair color and "alt"ness) about Aggie's group when Sara went to them with her newfound sexuality.
**** She's a teenage girl, they bleach their hair and dye it wacky colors all the time in high school while they're still young enough to get away with it. I sort of assumed that the colored picture was more of the colorist getting a little creative than what her actual hair color was meant to be in the comic anyways.
***** Katy-Ann's hair appears pink elsewhere than on the cast page, in for example [http://www.pennyandaggie.com/index.php?p=252 this strip], coloured by a different person (Miguel Marques) than the cast page colourist (Olivera T.). Also, in a later (grayscale) strip, Katy-Ann says "When I'm old, and dying my hair [[You Gotta Have Blue Hair|blue]] instead of pink [...]".
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