Perfect Blue/Headscratchers: Difference between revisions

← Older edit

Perfect Blue/Headscratchers (view source)

Revision as of 03:04, 7 August 2017

39 bytes removed , 6 years ago

m

→‎top: clean up, replaced: Big Lipped Alligator Moment → Non Sequitur Scene

VisualWikitext

Gethbot

Bots

10,856

edits

Revision as of 05:28, 24 February 2014 (view source) Dai-Guard (talk \| contribs) m (Dai-Guard moved page Perfect Blue (Anime)/Headscratchers to Perfect Blue/Headscratchers: Remove TVT Namespaces from title) ← Older edit		Latest revision as of 03:04, 7 August 2017 (view source) Gethbot (talk \| contribs) m (→‎top: clean up, replaced: Big Lipped Alligator Moment → Non Sequitur Scene)
(2 intermediate revisions by 2 users not shown)
Line 1: {{work}} * Okay, I get the rest of the film -- [[Mind Screw\|as much as you]] ''[[Mind Screw\|can]]'' [[Mind Screw\|get it, anyway]] ~~-- but~~—but I can't figure out the scene where Mima reunites with CHAM for a performance. The audience reactions would indicate she's actually there... but as far as I can understand the film, Mima was actually somewhere else entirely. It couldn't have been Rumi, because her costume wasn't remotely convincing to anyone not suffering a psychological breakdown, as we see when we see her as she really looks in mirrors and windows, rather than from her/Mima's perspective. That was probably Me-Mania's delusion of Mima jumping on stage, and the rest of the audience cheering with him. Or [[Wild Mass Guessing\|anyone who prefers pop-idol Mima]] [[Nightmare Fuel\|sees the delusion, too...]] * Correct [[Demetrios\|this troper]] if he's wrong, but a part of the movie seemed like (or at least felt like) a [[~~Big~~Non ~~Lipped~~Sequitur ~~Alligator Moment~~Scene]]. In one part at the beginning, while Rumi and Mima's agent are discussing the future of Mima's career, there's a TV in the background playing a scene Mima tried out for. She collapses onto a bed and ruefully says "I can't do this"...while a woman wearing a red and black teddy stands over her. ...what was that all about? Were they so desperate for a potential [[Fan Service\|lesbian scene]] that they'd put one ''anywhere'' in the movie? What, did one of the animators say "Hey, let's draw up what looks like a lesbian scene! [[Ass Pull\|Who cares if it's not in the script? I'm sure we'll work it into the movie somehow.]]"? To be fair, while it is one of my favorite movies, it's pretty much a big [[Mind Screw]] as it is. At the same time, they were discussing how well-received she was when she had acted thus far. I had assumed the scene was showing what she had been well-received for. Beyond that... Yeah, I'm pretty sure that clip was supposed to show how she had already acted in another soap opera or whatever. It was basically to just to show she had had experience. Thus, it wouldn't make her transition into acting too much out of the blue. Line 16: I had always assumed it was Rumi who was doing the murdering, based on choice of weapon. The murders were carried out with an ice pick, yet when Me-Mania attacks Mima he uses a knife. I interpreted Rumi bringing out the ice pick against Mima as a subtle sign that she was the murderer. This troper actually tends to assume that the scene we see of "Mima" murdering the photographer is at least partly or fully made up of scenes from Mima's TV drama. We know that the plotline and murders in the show are mirrors of the real life plot and murders, so it seems likely that Mima (and by extension the audience) are being confused into seeing the line blur between her role in the drama as the murderer and these real life murders that are taking place at the same time. * Just how old is [[Stalker ~~With~~with a Crush\|Me-Mania]]? When he's not wearing his brown coat, he wears what looks like something resembling a school uniform and we see other people wearing the outfit. ** Mid 20s to late 30s? The outfit he was wearing looked like a jumpsuit used by event security. His voice doesn't really point to any specific age. * Why is the movie called Perfect Blue anyway? ** Perfect Blue is both the colour of illusions and of a "clear sky." * I know it was mostly for [[Rape Asas Drama\|drama]], but I'm having trouble stomaching the setup of Mima's strip club scene. Did they ''actually' have to make the guy have sex with her for the scene? It couldn't be faked somehow- camera cuts, stunt doubles, no penetration, anything? Is this always done when filming such scenes? I could buy that the produces were sleazes, but if this is really a practice in acting, I'm gonna need so much [[Brain Bleach]]. I don't think there was any actual rape. As I understand cinematography, there is a "no penetration" rule in non-porn films, and usually for a scene like that the actors will just be humping the air within a few inches of each other while the camera focuses on adjacent areas (exposed male buttocks are the most common thing, like the sex scenes in ''[[~~Torchwood (TV)\|~~Torchwood]]''). So they were just acting the hell out of it and not actually bumping uglies. Also, at that point the story's being told from [[Unreliable Narrator\|Mima's POV]], so its legitimacy may already be in doubt. * Yeah, the first time we see the rape scene it's made clear to us that it is ~~fake -- you~~fake—you see Mima's fellow actors in the scene apologizing to her. It isn't until later that the lines become blurred, to the point where there ''is'' an actual attempted rape on that exact same set. * You can see the crowd's heads blocking everything that isn't from the waist up in wider shots, so it's obviously faked. Also, why on earth would you assume it ''isn't'' fake? * I don't get the OP question. That scene is obviously staged and there is nothing in the movie that implies it's not. Why would be a real rape? Mima is not filming a snuff film or a porno. {{reflist}} [[Category:~~Useful Notes/~~Anime and Manga/Headscratchers]] [[Category:Perfect Blue]] [[Category:Headscratchers]]