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*** Fencing Club probably helped contribute to Mitsuru's skills.
** MC seems to be fairly adept at punching out a few thugs in the event for lovers rank 5 even without being prepared. Perhaps he never got a chance to before Shinji appeared.
** It's because the power of the Persona protects people from otherwordly phenomena, a concept that goes aaalll the way back to the original ''[[Persona]]'' (where unawakened characters, or characters whose Personas have been sealed away or lost, receive fatal injuries from the tiniest attacks.) Persona users are just as vulnerable as any other human to ordinary "real-world" injury, but their Personas make them resist magic and the physical attacks of Shadows (or demons, as the case may be.) How this relates to Takaya's gun and Jin's grenades, [[Cutscene Power to
*** Simple, damage done in battles is not the same as out of it, due to use of skills. Your persona could be set on fire, or you could be set on fire, or Agi could be more powerful than usual, but they would all have different outcomes. This is why no-one used a Recover skill on Minato, after he used the Great Seal.
* So what, exactly, is the difference between all the [[Anthropomorphic Personification|Anthropomorphic Personifications]] of Death in the game? There's Thanatos, natch. Then the Reaper. Then {{spoiler|the Appraiser/Nyx Avatar, of which Thanatos was a fragment. Then, finally, the shapeless entity within Nyx, which actually ''casts'' Death}}.
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*** So how do they make one into the shape of a collar?
*** It makes no real sense. The above explanation is a Handwave, why would pulling the trigger of an obvious ''toy gun'' cause mental trauma? FES [[Retcon|Retcons]] this by making the evokers run on magic feathers...
**** I think the above theory was only in the manga, as a form of symbolism it fits Jungian psychology. Plot wise? Maybe [[It Runs
** The opening scene with Yukari using the evoker in the bathroom seemed to make it clear that it ''feels'' like a gunshot to the head for them. It's not like lifting a toy gun and pulling the trigger, it's the experience of having your brains blown out, the experience of dying, that summons the persona. The evoker's [[Applied Phlebotinum]] just makes it possible to do it more than once.
** [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88wrSJKv6QY So that Akihiko would join them.] Mitsuru says this in words. It's all Akihiko's fault.
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*** Well, STREGA got their powers from Kirijo- either Takaya obtained it thanks to their [[Screw the Rules, I Have Money|rule-screwing]] or he just got it by some other illegal means. He ''is'' a hitman.
** Also, there's the gun-like evokers. Carrying an actual gun would mean that the MC could accidentally shoot himself in the head when he tries to summon his Persona. [And that would be very bad. As for the knives, my guess is that he just thinks that they're outclassed by the other weapons and simply doesn't want to use them.
* How the hell is Aigis able to {{spoiler|beat up the entire party}} in the cutscene. I mean thats ridiculous abuse of [[Cutscene Power to
** Maybe they just didn't want to attack a fellow SEES member and tried to figure out a way to make her snap out of it, but then failed and got all beaten up? Alternatively, it could just be because she was armed with guns, and well, look what happened to Shinji.
*** To be fair Aigis is arguably the second most powerful party member outside the MC. She's only weak to Electricity which only Akihiko and the MC can use so she's likely to take them out first. The the rest of the party kind of falls in line. Plus there's [[Super Mode|Orgia Mode]] which could probably take out most of the party.
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** She used Garu against it (those swirling pillars that sprout to the sides of the Magician.) Small continuity error/plot hole/rule of cool, maybe.
*** Actually in [[P 3 P]] there were Agi spells being thrown around. Agilao to be precise. So Yukari was just being an idiot or that was the first time she summoned and she didn't know what it could do.
**** I don't understand your point. It was ''Magician'' using Agi to fight against Yukari (who didn't even get to attack at all in the PSP version.) In the original animation, it merely dodged her Garu and attacked her with its knives to send her flying. What's this about Yukari being an idiot or not knowing what Isis could do? Just chalk it up to [[Cutscene Power to
**** No, that's what I meant. I know the Magician was the one throwing around Agilaos. But there are no Garu's is my point. I guess I should've been more clear. What I mean is, she may not have summoned in the original and FES. That may have been Magician nuking.
***** But the animation's clearly Garu in the cutscene: it's the green spiraling wind effect shooting out of the ground. They may have changed it in the PSP version for that very reason, or just to replace the knife attacks with an existing game engine attack, but in the [[
****** Actually there's no rule that magician arcana shadows can only use agi skills, and its clearly not yukari using them as she wasn't able to use the evoker due to fear.
******* I just checked again and it appears that in FES at least the spirals are blue and come every time Yukari pulls the trigger. The same blue that comes out the other side of his head as "a spiral of dust" when the MC uses the Evoker and fully summons his Persona. This same dust effect also occurs in regular battle summoning. It appears to me that the spirals are Yukari's failed Io summonings. When he wakes up in the hospital, Yukari mentions that the Magician fight was her first time fighting the Shadows. Akihiko says when they first go to Tartarus that MC is the leader partially since he can easily summon his Persona unlike Junpei and Yukari.
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