39,327
edits
Pokémon/YMMV: Difference between revisions
m
Mass update links
m (Dai-Guard moved page Pokémon (Franchise)/YMMV to Pokémon/YMMV: Remove TVT Namespaces from title) |
m (Mass update links) |
||
Line 2:
== Anime and Movies ==
* [[Pokémon Anime/YMMV|The series]]
* ''[[Pokémon:
* ''[[Pokémon:
* ''[[Pokémon 3
* ''[[Pokémon
* ''[[Pokémon Heroes
* ''[[Pokémon: Jirachi Wishmaker
* ''[[Pokémon: Destiny Deoxys
* ''[[Pokémon: Lucario and The Mystery of Mew
* ''[[Pokémon Ranger and The Temple of The Sea
* ''[[Pokémon:
* ''[[Pokémon: Giratina and The Sky Warrior
* ''[[Pokémon: Arceus and
* ''[[Pokémon: Zoroark: Master of Illusions
== Main Video Game series ==
* ''[[Pokémon Red and Blue
* ''[[Pokémon Gold and Silver
* ''[[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire
* ''[[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl
* ''[[Pokémon Black and White
* ''[[Pokémon Black 2 and White 2
== Spinoff games ==
* ''[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon
* ''[[Pokémon Ranger
* ''[[Pokémon Snap
* ''[[Pokémon Stadium
* ''[[Pokémon Colosseum
* ''[[My Pokémon Ranch
* ''[[Hey You Pikachu
* ''[[Pokémon (
== Manga ==
* ''[[Pokémon Special
* ''[[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Adventure
Line 47:
== Fanfic/Other unofficial works ==
* ''[[Pokémon:
* ''[[Black Adventures
* ''[[Char Cole
* ''[[Generation 2021
* ''[[Guardians of Pokémon
* ''[[Mokepon
* ''[[Pokémon Master
* ''[[Pokémon-X
* ''[[Pokémon: Storm Clouds
* ''[[Pokémon Quartz/YMMV|Pokémon Quartz]]''
* ''[[Poke Wars/YMMV|Poké Wars Series]]''
* ''[[The Quest for
* ''[[We Are All Pokémon Trainers (Roleplay)/YMMV|We Are All Pokémon Trainers]]''
Line 74:
*** White Kyurem gets a few of Reshiram's characteristics... but ''not'' that suspicious placing of fur.
** The move Harden could make a few people with dirty minds giggle
* [[Adaptation Displacement]]: Variation and played straight. ''[[
* [[Alternate Character Interpretation]]: NPC trainers and the player character can easily be twisted into [[Jerkass|Jerkasses]] with regards to their interactions:
** You're wandering down a road miles away from home, your Pokémon are weak, possibly paralyzed or poisoned, several are knocked out, you're out of healing items and are desperately looking for a Pokémon center to heal your Pokémon but don't know your way around the area. As you struggle onward another trainer spots you and immediately challenges you to a battle, giving you no chance to back down and having no regard for the safety and well-being of your '[[Mons]].
** But then, the reverse. You see a trainer looking down the road and talk to them to challenge them to a battle. They only have one or two Pokémon five levels lower than yours, and depending on their dialogue said Pokémon may be freshly caught, or the trainer is on a losing streak, or is just out for a stroll. They may also be a young child or an old man or lady. You proceed to crush their Pokémon, take their money as spoils of victory, and leave them alone in the middle of nowhere while you continue on to find another trainer to do the same to. You do this in pursuit of obtaining the Gym Badges and being a Pokémon Champion, something which in-universe, especially in ''[[Pokémon Black and White
* [[Americans Hate Tingle|Americans Hate Jynx]]: Looking like a parody of [[Unfortunate Implications|black]][[Once-Acceptable Targets|face]] acting will do that.
** The series has different Pokémon names for the Japanese, English<ref>with the English names used everywhere outside of Japan, France, Germany, Korea and China</ref>, French, German, Chinese and Korean versions, with all characters and locations having different names in each translation as well. Generally, these localizations are well-liked by each of their target audiences. However, [[Canada, Eh?|French-speaking Quebecers]], who generally grew up with the English games and a Quebec French dub of the anime that used the English names, are prone to have somewhat negative opinions of the French games and TCG (which are imported from France, and use their localizations). Similarly, Latin Americans play the English games, and are critical of Spanish character and location names (used in Spain), with some Latin American users on Pokéteca (the Spanish Bulbapedia) causing an uproar over the use of said Spanish names on the wiki rather than the English ones.
* [[And the Fandom Rejoiced]]: In Generation IV, fan-favorite starter Pokémon Blaziken was outclassed competitively by the less popular starter Infernape. In Generation V, Blaziken's Dream World ability, Speed Boost, not only reversed this, but brought its usefulness to almost [[Game Breaker]] levels.
** Dragonite never gets the spotlight as well, and suffer the same case as Blaziken with Salamence. Come generation 5 giving Dragonite 2 new useful moves and a new ability that practically allows it to survive most attacks thrown at it at full health. It goes from outclassed pseudo-legendary that nearly dropped to UU to a frightening beast that occasionally appear in top five most used pokemon of OU after the metagame has been properly formed and is considered as the hardest threat to handle out of sheer unpredictability. To say that the Dragonite fans are pleased would be an understatement.
** The ''[[
* [[Badass Decay]]: Persian was a threat in the early years of the franchise, but, after Slash failed to land critical hits 100% of the time, its overall mediocre stats showed.
** Alakazam (and the Psychic-type in general) has become progressively less threatening with each generation.
Line 88:
*** Tauros and Snorlax. And HOW. They gone from the King of the metagame they were in, and the latter has been considered as the most dominant and influental pokemon in existence. Both falls rather hard. To put it simply, theres tons of litteral [[Badass Normal]] that suffers this trope.
* [[Base Breaker]]:
** Dragonite is one of the most popular Pokémon ever (by way of being a [[Badass Adorable]] [[Our Dragons Are Different|dragon]] and Lance's signature Pokémon), scoring high in popularity polls<ref>taking overall results into account, it more or less comes second behind Charizard and ''maybe'' a few others</ref>. However, it has also drawn ire for being a randomly cuddly and orange dragon that evolves from a slender, elegant blue serpent, for standing out from other pseudo-legendaries (which generally follow a theme of "ferocious, [[Badass]], predatory fantastic creatures"), and [[Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking|for its oddly]] [[Barney and Friends
** Pignite and Emboar, for being the third Fire/Fighting starter evolutions in a row.
** Oshawott's design was highly polarizing when it was first revealed, but its evolution, Dewott, showed the emergence of samurai-like qualities and was rather widely well-received. Then their final stage, Samurott, was revealed, whose unexpected incorporation of sea lion qualities into its shogun motif promptly re-broke the base; being an apparent quadruped undermined many fans' expectations of a shell-sword wielding samurai. As it turns out, the shell armor on either its forelegs ''do'' contain swords which Samurott uses in combat, somehow still without being bipedal - artwork portrays it as using a sword in one limb while standing on the other three.
Line 104:
** The fanbase is hugely divided over which generation is best, and with every new addition to the series, [[Ruined FOREVER]] is in full effect.
** Even playing the games divides the fans. Either [["Stop Having Fun!" Guys|you play competitively and are "taking the game too seriously"]], or [[Scrub|you play for fun and "can't understand the subtle mathematics of the game"]].
** Believe it or not, on places like [[Deviant ART]] and [[YouTube]], the fanbase is extremely divided over whether [[Pokémon (
* [[Character Tiers]]: A heavily present feature in the metagame, and kind of necessary, given that for all of Game Freak's tweaks and additions, some Pokémon still clearly have it better than others. [http://www.smogon.com/bw/tiers/ Most communities make an effort to organize the tiers thoughtfully, at least.]
* [[Complete Monster]]: There are a few examples all over the franchise. The video games have Ghetsis in ''[[Pokémon Black and White]]'' and it's sequel, Darkrai in ''[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]]'', Purple Eyes in the third ''[[Pokémon Ranger]]'' game, and the Cipher masterminds of ''[[Pokémon Colosseum]]''. The anime have the Iron Mask Marauder from ''[[Pokémon
* [[Crowning Music of Awesome]]: [[Pokémon
* [[Demonic Spiders]]:
** It's difficult (if not impossible) to flee from wild Pokémon with high Speed stats without a special item or ability.
Line 122:
*** [[Base Breaker]]: Yeah, it reached a point where people cannot stand the yellow rodent.
** Meowth, probably because of its appearance in the anime. Almost the same case as Pikachu, but toned down quite a bit.
** Jigglypuff was popular enough to get an appearance in the ''[[
** Eevee and its many evolutions are very popular.
*** Especially Glaceon. It's like an Ice-type Espeon, except that it's a LITERAL [[Mighty Glacier]].
Line 147:
** On the anime side of things, Jessie and James definitely qualify. You'd be hard-pressed to find young adults of a certain generation who don't remember their signature motto.
* [[Ear Worm]]: ''Many'' of the tunes.
* [[Epileptic Trees]]: It has not only [[Pokémon
** Compare the Venonat and Caterpie lines. Now think about the 1st gen butterflies getting their sprites mixed up.
** The resemblance between Cloyster's and Gastly's faces has spawned tons of theories about early game concepts that might have been dropped, such as Gastly being a Cloyster's ghost or evolutionary relative. The fact that Gastly comes after Cloyster in the Pokédex only adds fuel to the fire.
Line 171:
*** Considering that Cyrus isn't actually emotionless and is just incredibly repressed, the grunt uniforms can be seen as more of a kink than anything else. Although they're still Fridge Brilliance considering that they look like something out of a 1980s music video, and if you go off the release dates of the games, Cyrus would have been born in either 1979 or 1981.
**** If you think about it, the little dresses the female Galactic Grunts wear are actually quite short and tight- if it wasn't for those leggings they would show quite a bit of skin.
**** Team Plasma grunt uniforms don't look terribly sensual, either, being full suits of armor. Then again, N is [[Not Good
***** Unlikely. A better for the uniform choices of Team Plasma would be along the lines of [[Rule of Symbolism]] or [[Faux Symbolism]] as they are claiming to be [[Animal Wrongs Group|attempting to liberate pokemon from their unworthy trainers]]. What better costume to support this message than that of a knight in shining armor?
*** Evice and Greevil are both old men who likely have ground their sex drives into dust (Greevil, having two sons, can actually claim this as an excuse). Cipher Peons are dressed head to toe in Stormtrooper armor, even their faces.
Line 182:
** It's suggested that you check which Pokémon (usually legendaries) are not allowed in competitive battling circles before entering a battle.
** Of the Psychic-types that dominated Generation 1, Alakazam was the head (excluding Mewtwo).
** Long before Garchomp centralized generation 4's metagame, Curselax broke generation 2 in half the same way. Snorlax is still pretty powerful, and is one of 4 Pokémon to have always been considered OU (Along with Gengar, Starmie, and Zapdos, although in the latest Gen it and Zapdos are beginning to get [[Overshadowed
** Mewtwo. Chansey or another Mewtwo. Those are the only two first generation Pokémon that had any chance against the most used moveset in the first gen. Even after the nerf, it is still one of three Pokémon that do not have any surefire counter.
*** Mewtwo now learns Psystrike, a special move that does physical damage. Chansey is no longer effective at walling him.
** Mew. It is in the Uber tier, after all. [[Overshadowed
** Latias was allowed in the standard metagame for some time, and was incredibly durable and damaging thanks to Calm Mind. When it eventually got banned, the resulting power vacuum let Salamence become so dominating that it ended up banned, too.
** Groudon, Kyogre, and Rayquaza. All three of them, and to an unquestionable degree to boot - even at level ''1'', the former two's ability to automatically induce an endless weather condition alone was enough to make teams built around sun or rain insurmountable to teams that weren't.
Line 212:
* [[It's the Same, Now It Sucks]]: All of the [[Updated Rerelease|updated rereleases]] and [[Video Game Remake|remakes]] (and to a lesser extent, the first titles in any given generation) have run into a certain amount of these complaints.
* [[Magnificent Bastard]]: Team Rocket's Giovanni, Team Galactic's Cyrus, and Team Plasma's Colress are fine examples.
* [[Memetic Molester]]: Online interpretations of Drowzee/Hypno lean towards either pedophilia or murder. ''[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon Explorers
* [[Memetic Sex God]]: Several 'Mons, as well as some of the characters.
* [[Memetic Mutation]]: [[Pokémon
* [[Mis Blamed]]: Despite that a company called Game Freak has had their logo plastered over most (if not all) games with the Pokémon title on it, nobody seems to realize that they are the company that ''actually develops'' the games in the first place, especially the "mainstream" ones that sell the best. Any criticisms with the games get attributed to the publisher, Nintendo. Game Freak seems to have gone over a decade without much credit ''or'' blame for the series.
* [[Most Annoying Sound]]: The [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWTJRLW6uRM critical HP bleeping alarm]. However, in ''Black and White'', it was changed by a new battle theme, with the alarm remixed into the tune, which is slightly more appealing to the ear.
Line 220:
** Landing a "[[For Massive Damage|super effective]]" hit on another Pokémon, especially when the target Pokémon has a [[Elemental Rock-Paper-Scissors|double weakness]] to the move it is resisting and/or when a [[Critical Hit]] is factored into the damage as well.
** The [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yQXQRAOs80 sound that plays] at Pokémon Centers when Pokémon are being [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiW4ii0rnNM restored to full health] by the nurse.
* [[Nightmare Fuel]]: Enough to [[Pokémon
** [[Nightmare Retardant]]
*** One Pokédex entry estates that Drifloon tries to kidnap children, but that Drifloon are much too light and weak to actually carry the children away.
** Giratina's cry, as well as the fact that it seems to be based on the antithesis of Arceus.
* [[Nintendo Hard]]: You thought getting that National Diploma in White was hard? WRONG! Achieving feat known commonly as Living Pokédex is much harder. It requires to have all species ''at once'', usually in Boxes and in National order. Now how the hell are you going to get all these [[Pokémon Red and Blue
* [[Periphery Demographic]]: Outside its obvious target demographic, it is also quite popular with young adults that were kids in [[The Nineties|the late 1990s]] when the series was introduced, as well as with [[Otaku]] and JRPG fans in general. It can also be [[Your Mileage May Vary|argued]] that ''Pokémon'' has been the greatest influence on Internet culture out of all mega-media-franchises, considering its popularity on [[Image Boards]] and the number of [[Fountain of Memes|memes]], videos and fan tributes that the franchise has spawned.
* [[Rescued From the Scrappy Heap]]: Roost and Brave Bird are two moves that greatly improved the potential of Pidgeot, making it at least able to hurt or last against opponents.
** Pidgeot also got Tailwind, which gave it brief notability until it was made available for a lot more Flying Pokémon in ''HeartGold'' and ''SoulSilver''.
* Dragonite, in gen 3, its [[Overshadowed
* [[Ruined FOREVER]]: Oh yes. There's a new main series or spin-off game coming out? Ruined forever. There's new details about that upcoming game? Ruined forever. New Pokémon? Ruined forever. ''Rumors'' about the new game? Ruined. ''FOREVER''. Yet despite being '''ruined FOREVER''' about a zillion times with each new installment, the series somehow manages to keep going strong. [[Fan Dumb|Go]] [[Hate Dumb|figure]].
** Worth noting that there is quite a [[Silent Majority]]. Many of them simply just like the franchise as is and don't feel the need to scream about it. Or if they don't like certain spinoffs or anime things, they just don't buy them.
Line 253:
*** Also, not everyone can even access them - for example, if you use WPA (and have no idea how to/are not allowed to change this), you're out of luck, since DS Wi-Fi only accepts WEP. Your only hope is to visit a friend that has it.
** Poison draining a Pokémon's HP on the field. Nerfed in Generation IV, where it can't actually faint a Pokémon, only leave them at one HP, and removed entirely in Generation V.
* [[Sidetracked
** [http://www.awkwardzombie.com/comic1-040510.php The Game Corners].
** Pokémon Contests and the Pokéathlon have this effect as well. Since both pull different kinds of stats from the Pokémon and have different methods of gameplay than the usual battle, you can easily find yourself partaking in them for hours once you get the hang of it.
Line 267:
* [[That One Boss]]: The legendary 'mons and several gym leaders.
* [[They Changed It, Now It Sucks]]: You won't be too hard pressed to find people who stubbornly claim that [[Fanon Discontinuity|there are only 151 Pokémon]], or that Gold and Silver was the only good sequel. There aren't quite so many people who claim that the third generation was the last good generation, but it might be because they were able to transfer their Mon from one game to the other, something Gold and Silver couldn't do with Ruby and Sapphire.
* [[Tier
** Blissey stops pretty much any special-based attacker from doing its job, and is quite omnipresent.
** Poor, poor Flareon.
Line 274:
* [[Uncanny Valley]]: Mr.Mime, Jynx, etc.
* [[Unfortunate Implications]]: Oh boy. You wouldn't ''believe'' the amount of controversy Jynx sparked in the U.S. Let's just say that's the reason why she has a purple and not a black face today.
** [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Spr_4d_379.png Registeel's DP sprite] looks like he's ''literally'' [[Putting
* [[Viewer Gender Confusion]]: Although often thought of as male (mostly because of its telepathic voice in the anime and in ''[[Super Smash Bros]] Melee''), Mewtwo is officially "genderless" ([[You Keep Using That Word|which means "doesn't have a sex" in Pokémon terms]]). This applies to most legendaries as well (even the ''very'' female-looking Meloetta).
** For the most part, this only affects a couple of abilities and attacks (most dealing with infatuation), along with breeding purposes. Perhaps mons like Mewtwo simply aren't impressed by love?
** Mew. Like Mewtwo. While it doesn't speak, its cute, pink design and the fact that it is referred to as "giving birth" is enough (completely reasonably) to cause a large number of fans to think of it as female. (A small number of fans also think of it as male due to the masculinity of its clone and also due to its [[Koichi Yamadera|voice actor]].)
** Chikorita. The most feminine-looking of the starters, but they have the standard gender ratio of seven males to one female.
** Like Mewtwo, genderless Darkrai is often referred to as male because of its telepathic voice in the anime, and because its counterpart Cresselia is female. Even the [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Darkrai_(movie_10) dubbers of the 10th movie] were not immune, although [[Knight of Cerebus|Darkrai]] is clearly labeled as male (along with other legendaries) in the ''[[
** Despite the fact that some legendaries have genders (and can be female), Meloetta, the most feminine-looking Legendary ''of all time'', is genderless like most other legendaries.
** Despite their names, Slowbro, Kingler, Goldeen, Seaking, and Mr. Mime can be of either sex, but since they were introduced before the introduction of gender mechanics, it can't really be helped. Slowking, Kingdra, and Slaking, however, were introduced alongside or after gender mechanics. Though Slaking was saved - at least somewhat so - for those who recognised the pun behind the name.
| |||