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[[Post Something Ism|Post]]-grunge is a derivative of [[Grunge]] music that became popular in the late 90s. The genre is primarily marked by its use of the apathetic, droning vocals, downtuned guitars and [[Hard Rock]]/[[Punk Rock|Punk]] aesthetics commonly associated with Grunge, but also removing the unusual structures and [[Progressive Rock|prog-like]] time signatures that Grunge was also known for, [[Lighter and Softer|then slowing it down]]. In other words, taking, running-with and exploiting the more commercially viable qualities of Grunge while watering down its oddity and offending harshness. Yeah, this genre [[Internet Backdraft|doesn't go over well]] with the underground music scene, and its large popularity is sometimes accused of causing [[Alternative Rock]] to lose its experimental qualities, not to mention leading to numerous bands previously snatched up by major labels after [[Nirvana]]'s breakthrough being unceremoniously dumped.<ref>like [[Music/Boredoms|Boredoms]], [[Music/Butthole Surfers|Butthole Surfers]] and [[Jawbox]], to name a few</ref>.
 
The genre has been known to use the rock-like compositions and structure often rejected by their predecessors in Grunge, modernized with sombre, brooding lyrics. In this sense, the movement could be considered ([[Irony|ironically]]) the [[Spiritual Successor]] to [[Hair Metal]], whose pop beats and polished production brought heavy rock to a widespread audience (Post-grunge is also well known for its "soul-searching" ballads). Ironically, many post-grunge bands take more influence from Poison, Cinderella and [[Whitesnake]] than [[Nirvana]]; post-grunge players generally think of the old grunge-greats as idols/heroes rather than influences, with more of an interest in stylistic emulation over artistic aspiration (the subtle difference between a direct or indirect influence from grunge can affect how well-received a post-grunge band is, both critically and to their audience). Post-Grunge tends to focus more on lyrical structure than music, [[Doing It for the Art|often the opposite stance]] [[Word Salad Lyrics|of early grunge artists]]. Though the genre is rooted primarily in [[Alternative Rock]], make no mistake: Post-grunge was tailor-made for the mainstream <ref>Notice that [[wikipedia:Hot Mainstream Rock Tracks|Billboard's Hot Mainstream Rock Tracks']] record-holders are almost entirely post-grunge bands.</ref> In essence, it took no influence from what Grunge was, but took every influence from what Grunge became: a commercial darling.
 
The rise of Post-grunge has gone to dominate and even embed itself in the standardly recognized sound of [[Hard Rock]] [[Small Reference Pools|as most people can hear]], creating the assumption that Post-grunge is the only form of modern rock. This has had the flip-side effect of some of the more straight-forward, contemporary rock groups <ref>The kind who take their influence from the deep-seated 70's and 80's hard rock staples (Black Stone Cherry, Rev Theory, Hinder, Saving Abel, Buckcherry, My Darkest Days, etc.)</ref> being lumped in with post-grunge, despite having no or next-to no alternative qualities in their rock.<ref>Nickelback is a particularly odd case of this, taking on a more stadium/pop sound in their later albums and thus joining this group while still carrying the post-grunge label as an [[Artifact Title]], probably because of their lead singer's scratchy voice</ref>. There is a bit of cross-over involved as well: Saliva, Shinedown, 3 Doors Down and Chris Daughtry like to dabble in/pay tribute to "regular" hard rock when they can, adding to this confusion. It seems the only way to escape this is to play ''very'' old-fashioned retro-rock, such as [[Garage Rock]] revival, new [[Blues Rock]], [[Psychedelic Rock|neo-psychedelia]], [[Heavy Metal|traditional-metal revival]] or modernized [[Power Pop]].
 
For better or worse, the genre's stylings have entered most current popular music to some degree, and it isn't showing any signs of slowing down. Also note that ([[MST3K Mantra|repeat after me]]) ''[[Tropes Are Not Bad|good Post-grunge does exist]]''. Try to avoid the particularly grating examples.
 
{{examples|Examples of Post-Grunge bands include:}}
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Bands typified as==First-wave Post-grunge:==
 
'''First-wave Post-grunge''':
* Bush
* Candlebox
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* Tonic
 
'''==New Millennium style post-grunge''':==
* 3 Doors Down (likely one of the lesser-hated examples)
* 12 Stones
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* Theory of a Deadman
 
'''==Post-grunge/[[Alt Metal|Alt-metal]] crossover''':==
 
Some post-grunge bands take more after [[Tool]] and [[Alice in Chains]] than [[Pearl Jam]] or [[Nirvana]], while some like to add a heavier edge to their sound as not to be lumped with their softer post-grunge contemporaries while maintaining their alternative status. Thus, the overlap with [[Alternative Metal]] was inevitable. Note that all or most post-grunge bands fall under the [[Hard Rock]] umbrella (a genre related to alt-metal and [[Heavy Metal]]), but post-grunge bands with similarities to metal aren't necessarily an example of alt-metal. Given their similar pop-leanings, normally when a post-grunge band makes their sound heavier they become [[nu-metal]] rather than pure alt-metal; achieving the sound of alt-metal requires a distinctly guitar-driven, alternative rock approach with less of the aggression and simplicity associated with nu-metal.<ref>Also note that post-grunge/alt-metal bands tend to sound very far from the "normal", Guns N' Roses/Bon Jovi-style hard rock described earlier, aside from the odd [[Genre Shift]]</ref>. In other words, Papa Roach, who practiced more standard-fare nu-metal early in their career only to switch to post-grunge later, wouldn't be an example of post-grunge/alt-metal crossover. Post-grunge/alt-metal crossover bands melodically tend to follow more in line with classic grunge, [[Alternative Rock]] and NWOBHM on the mid end of the [[Mohs Scale of Rock and Metal Hardness]]. These include:
 
* [[Alter Bridge]] ([[The Band Minus the Face|made of Creed minus Scott Stapp]]... [[Surprisingly Improved Sequel|and they became better for it]]. Possibly the only post-grunge band in existence who overlaps with [[Progressive Rock]] and [[Speed Metal]]).
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