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{{quote|''Definition of a classic — something that everybody wants to have read and nobody wants to read.''|'''[[Mark Twain]]'''}}
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The Inverse of [[Complaining About Shows You Don't Watch]], in which these people somehow know ''exactly'' how good something is, without having ever actually ''seen'' it. Maybe they saw so much praise they feel like they can account for having actually watched it for themselves, or maybe they're just carbon-copying someone's opinions to fit into the group. Or they have seen a fragment of the work, liked it, and assumed the rest is equally good. Who knows? Similar to [[NeverComplaining WatchedAbout ItShows You Don't Watch|somehow knowing a show is utter crap without having seen an episode]], it's one of the greatest mysteries of human culture, and has only been [[GIFT|exacerbated]] by the Age of the Internet.
 
'''Praising Shows You Don't Watch''' is often a major contributor to [[Mainstream Obscurity]]. When it becomes ''really'' commonplace, [[Pop Cultural Osmosis Failure]] is not far behind.
 
Compare [[Popcultural Osmosis]].
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== [[Anime]]/ and [[Manga]] ==
* In the 1990s, the success of the movies of ''[[Akira]]'' and ''[[Ghost in the Shell]]'' meant that many in the West professed to be 'into manga', in many cases without ever seeing any more examples of the form than those two films. Or appreciating the difference between manga and anime. Or that there's a ''lot'' of different genres within the anime/ and manga world, besides [[dystopia]]n sci-fi.
 
== [[Film]] ==
* Happens a ''lot'' with movies—moviesfilms—films known for being good, but unseen by many of the people who praise them. Many of these nevertheless become used as benchmarks, which terrible movies will often (according to many a review and rant) be described as "making merely [[So Okay It's Average|mediocre movies]] look like...".
** ''[[Citizen Kane]]''
** ''[[Lawrence of Arabia]]''
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== [[Literature]] ==
* [[The Bible]]. Some people who espouse it as the direct word of God haven't read more than a few verses of it (as opposed to Biblical scholars, who tend to analyze and discuss it academically). On the flip side, most people who hate it haven't read it either. Some traditions do cover a large portion of the text over the course of a few years, though.
** Controversial televangelist Jim Bakker even admitted in his biography that the first time he truly sat down to read it was when he was in prison after being convicted of mail fraud and wire fraud.
* In Islam, it is very important to learn about the[[The KoranQur'an]]. It's not limited to just reading it either. Memorization of Al-Fatiha is important, as it is needed for prayer. Indeed, there are many people all around the world who have memorized the KoranQur'an by heart. Unfortunately, like with [[The Bible]], there are many who praise the KoranQur'an yet rarely ever read it.
* William Shirer characterized ''[[Mein Kampf]]'' as the bestselling book in Germany between 1934-1944 that was never read by most Germans who bought it.
* ''[[War and Peace]]''
* ''[[Pride and Prejudice]]''
* ''[[Moby Dick]]''
* ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'' gets this, too. Mostly for people who haven't exactly read it, but praise it more for what they accomplished.
* ''[[Nineteen Eighty-Four]]''. Many phrases from the book, like "[[Big Brother Is Watching|Big Brother]]", "thoughtcrime" and "[[Room 101]]", have entered pop culture, people can often quite convincingly claim they've read the book by simply quoting these phrases.
** That's debatable, as most people can only repeat the concept of Big Brother and think of it as an extreme form of totalitarianism that sees everything and controls everything. Anyone who has actually read 1984''Nineteen Eighty-Four'' knows that the vast majority of the population (the proles) doesn't need to be closely watched and it's only the Party itself that must be controlled. The repression in 1984 then is less caused by strong governmental control as most people imply when they try to make analogies about 1984, and instead it's an internalized repression that people enter almost willingly. The big concept in 1984''Nineteen Eighty-Four'' is not Big Brother; it's toughtcrimethoughtcrime.
* [[Mark Twain]] would be displeased to learn that ''[[The Adventures of Tom Sawyer]]'' now meets his definition of "classic." When most people discuss the book, they refer to one scene—Tomscene — Tom tricking his friends into whitewashing a fence for him. This occurs in Chapter 2. Either that is an incredibly awesome scene, or it's got 'most quoted' status in school textbooks, or most people stop reading around page twenty. You can tell that someone has actually read the whole thing when they refer to other memorable scenes, like getting lost in the caves, and Tom and Huck attending their own funeral.
** Twain himself, in his remarkable essay ''[[Fenimore Cooper's Literary Offences]]'', accused people that praised ''[[The Leatherstocking Tales]]'' of this trope
* Much like the ''Tom Sawyer'' example above, you can tell whether or not anyone has actually read ''[[Don Quixote]]'' by whether they remember anything about it other than the windmill scene.
* [[Richard Feynman]] mentioned in his autobiography a case when one publisher sent a schoolbook to the California State Curriculum Commission, but it wasn't ready for print, so it had ''empty pages''. Six out of the ten members of the commission ''still'' rated the book favorably—literallyfavorably — literally judging it by the cover! Ironically, it was one of the highest rated books, and according to Feynman's autobiographical account, none of the other members understood why he hadn't rated the textbook.
* Many works of mythology, such as ''[[The Epic of Gilgamesh]]'', [[King Arthur]] and various other texts of [[Classical Mythology]] and other myths. Although many are well-respected as inspirations for modern fantasy and great storylines by themselves, probably few people have probably actually read them.
* Part of the [[Framing Device]] for why ''[[The Princess Bride (novel)|The Princess Bride]]'' (the book, not the movie) is an 'abridged version' is because the author (who is, in the [[Framing Device]], claiming to merely be an editor) recommended this book highly to his son, despite the fact he'd never read it, having only heard the (much shorter) version his father read to him as a child.
* While ''[[Twilight (novel)|Twilight]]'' did have some... [[Everything's Better with Sparkles|questionable]]... aspects of vampires, amongst the cries of how they ruined vampires like Dracula in ''[[Twilight (novel)|Twilight]]'' is allegedly that they are moving during the day - which pretty much shows how familiar people actually ''are'' with ''[[Dracula]]''.
* ''[[A Brief History of Time}]]'' and ''[[Gödel, Escher, Bach|Godel Escher and Bach]]'' are both well-known for this, the former having been described as "the most unread book ever written". These tend to be the sort of books that people leave on their bookshelves or coffee tables to look sophisticated, but because the books are quite challenging to read, only a handful of people who own them have ever finished them.
** And thus this page is a [[Self-Demonstrating Article]] - that second book is called ''[[Gödel, Escher, Bach]]'' (no "and"). Almost nobody knows the title of the book they praise!
* Anything you had to read in high school English class, whether you actually had to read it or not, such as ''[[To Kill a Mockingbird]]'', ''[[The Scarlet Letter]]'', ''[[Catcher in The Rye]]'', or anything by [[Ernest Hemingway]]. Believe it or not, these books and authors ''do'' have many detractors.
* Anything by [[Charles Dickens]]. Most modern readers have read adaptations, and most find the original versions boring.
* ''[[Les Misérables (novel)|Les Misérables]]''; most of the praise comes from those who have seen the theatrical version.
 
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== [[Music]] ==
* Happens with a lot of very successful and famous rock groups. [[The Beatles]], [[The Rolling Stones]], [[ACDC]], [[Pink Floyd]], [[Led Zeppelin]] and many other older rock groups, in spite of having legit and quite large fanbases, are popular among this group of people, particularly in the case of music debates where one will list these bands and others to prove their musical taste is "superior" to the other person's. An exception to this is when someone uses a [[Progressive Rock]] group like [[Yes]]. They will often be seen as a music snob by others. Of course, [[Your Mileage May Vary]].
** Parodied by this ''[[Funny Or Die]]'' vid: "[https://web.archive.org/web/20131023230514/http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/662c3c3a0b/take-off-your-tshirt-if-you-cant-name-a-song-by-the-band-thats-on-it-from-watt-white Take Off Your T-Shirt If You Can't Name A Song By The Band That's On It]".
** It's nearly impossible to have never heard at least one song from all the aforementioned groups if you've ever listened to the radio. You might or might not have heard anything by [[Yes]]; "Owner of a Lonely Heart" is pretty popular on the radio. So, these types of fans might get the bands mixed up -- "Paint It Black" is ''totally'' [[ACDC]]'s best song!-- but at since they're so popular, almost everyone has heard a single by them at some point.
** The Ramones are probably a better example. The shirts are more popular than the band ever was. Most people probably don't know that three of them are dead.
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