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The [[Executive Meddling]] we're most familiar with is the sort that ruins stories, characters, and entire franchises. So why, some may ask, does the job even exist? Put simply, because quite often they're actually ''right'', it's just the negative effects of [[Executive Meddling]] that are always publicized. No creator is perfect, after all; sometimes they really ''do'' make unmarketable stories, [[Wall Banger (Darth Wiki)|Wall Bangers]], and other mistakes on their own. Even the best need guidance.
When the creator is first starting out, the editors have the advantage in the artist-executive relationship. The creator's priority is just getting their stuff out there where people can see it, and in order to make that happen most people will acquiesce on the smaller details. The creator has no real
However, if the creator manages to pull off a hit, the dynamic changes. He eventually becomes marketable on star power alone. Whatever he produces is guaranteed to sell, regardless of quality, thanks to his established fanbase.
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Not all creators actually appreciate the help they've received from the editors. As far as they're concerned, these [[Straw Critic|short-sighted editors]] have been holding them back from ''true'' greatness. They might not ''actively'' think this, but getting a fanbase and thus lots of positive feedback gives some people a [[Small Name, Big Ego|swelled head]].
Due to editors not being willing or able to fight back against a brand-name star, the resulting new material from an old creator can end up being lower-quality. Sometimes very much lower, as the author's bad habits, [[Mary Sue
One informal rule to see if this is the case is whether the author's name is the same size or bigger than the title on the front cover. If it is, you can safely bet the author falls under this trope. Publishing tends to be an industry of marginal profits (the book that sells has to pay for the ten that flop) so when you have an author who sells thousands or millions of copies on their name alone, why would you spend money editing their work?
[[Web Comics]] and other [[Web Original|online media]] have a special risk of suffering from this. On the Internet, one can gather a fanbase with no editor whatsoever, and if you start listening to that fanbase praising you unconditionally, you're just asking for trouble.
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A common pattern that occurs, especially with recent comic book adaptations is that the first film is either deemed great or at least decent considering the demands made by [[Executive Meddling]]. Because the first film was a success, the second movie is given more open range to experiment with. This either reveals that the executive meddling was what made the first movie good or it manages to top itself and be even better. If it reaches a third movie those involved may start to think they are invincible and shows why they needed someone to hinder them a little bit.
Contrast [[Executive Veto]], [[Executive Meddling]], [[Tough Act to Follow]], [[Scapegoat Creator]]. Not entirely uncoincidentally, many creators with
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== Literature ==
* One of the strangest examples is Ernest Hemingway, who actually negotiated
* Robert Jordan, author of ''[[The Wheel of Time]]'' series. There's no shortage of genuine fans who wished he'd have stopped [[Costume Porn|describing dresses]], or people's [[Character Tics|idiosyncratic nervous gestures]], or new characters that we'll forget anyway because they're not nearly as important as the [[Loads and Loads of Characters|dozens of others we're trying to keep track of]], or any of the other blatant [[Padding]]. Well, now it's too late to save the slog through books 7 through 11; fortunately, Brandon Sanderson wrote a tight, efficient, exciting narrative for book 12, and presumably will do at least as well for books 13 and 14 (the finale).
** It's been joked that Jordan could have finished the series in three books, but he was being paid by the word and opted to milk it; you skip every second and third paragraph, the joke goes, and not miss a thing.
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** One of his earlier books, ''But What of Earth?'', received such [[Executive Meddling|tampering]] with the plot that after he had achieved Protection from Editors, he had the book re-published in its original form, with comments about the edits (but not the edits themselves, probably because actual evidence might contradict him) in footnotes.
* [[Sword of Truth|Terry Goodkind]], man. Terry Goodkind. From his own words: "When my first book was written there was more initial editing than there is today simply because it was the first book I'd ever written. Still, that editing consisted only of untangling sentences for clarity. The story itself was sound; it just needed housekeeping. My copy editor (the editor who edits for all the technical aspects) tells me that my manuscripts are now some of the cleanest she's ever seen."
** Then the [[Author Filibuster
* [[L. Ron Hubbard]] was considered a reliable pulp
* This is the only way [[Miley Cyrus]] could have gotten away with publishing in her memoir the line "[[Narm|I clutched my grilled cheese sandwich like it was the hand of my best friend.]]" Any good editor would have done away with that sentence.
** Ditto for [[Kanye West]]: Despite declaring himself as a "proud non-reader" who doesn't see the value in books or schooling, has still managed to co-author a book full of personal witticisms, including gems such as "Get use [sic] to getting used!"
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* [[Christopher Paolini]], author of [[The Inheritance Cycle]], is often accused of this by antis, but in reality he is an aversion. He has an editor who regularly edits his work extensively and cuts out significant sections of the books if they are deemed unimportant, with no adamant objection from him. According to Christopher himself, ''Brisingr'' was originally [[Tree Killer|+300,000 words long]], but editing brought it down to about 250,000 words. He even claimed that he found the editing of ''Brisingr'' an enjoyable experience.
** Mind you, self-editing may not be that much better than a lack thereof, at least in the eyes of the [[Hatedom]].
* [[Jules Verne]] is probably one of the most glaring examples. As it turned out, Verne didn't really think much of humanity, and that bright and cheerful atmosphere and the belief in science that made his ''Voyages Extraordinaires'' series so popular in the world, were, in fact, mainly a product of pressure from members of his social circle, such as Nadar and his life-long friend and editor Pierre-Jules Hetzel. Hetzel, being Verne's ''publisher'', was in position to pressure his friend the most, and outright rejected a couple of Verne's especially bleak early novels
** Then again, [[Macekre|it didn't stop his works from getting pretty bad translations at first]].
* Robert A. Heinlein. In so many ways. His early works, especially his 'juveniles', were constrained by the mores of the time and the rules of the publishers, and RAH ''benefitted'' from this immensely, it forced him to restrain some of his personal tropes and write better stories. In later years, freed from editorial and cultural restraint, his books became both longer and longer, and more and more repetitive, circular musings on a few favorite fixations.
* R.A. Salvatore is in an unusual state where he's both subject to this trope and strangled by [[Executive Meddling|the opposite]]. On the one hand, there's less and less oversight of the content and style of his ''Legend of Drizzt'' series, and quality has suffered grievously. On the other, his attempts to end the series were bluntly
== Live Action TV ==
* Chances are, [[Joss Whedon]] will have this for the rest of his life. Mainly because nobody wants to be the target of a letter writing campaign done by thousands of Whedon fans.
* [[Gene Roddenberry]]'s status grew over the years so that by the time he got to do ''[[Star Trek]]: [[Star Trek: The Next Generation|The Next Generation]]'' he could give full vent to his utopianism free of [[Executive Meddling]]. Quite a lot of it ended up getting retconned after the show started [[Growing the Beard]].
** It's worth noting, though, that this doesn't extend to the movies. Even though ''[[Star Trek: The Motion Picture|The Motion Picture]]'' (which Roddenberry produced and co-wrote) was financially successful, his job on ''[[Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan|Wrath of Khan]]''
** Also worth mentioning: One of his handlers during his last years was Rick Berman. Yes, the same Rick Berman people curse for ruining the series.
*** Well he did, but to his credit it took him twice as long as Roddenberry to start his creative descent.
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* A notable exception would by Gary Larson, of ''The Far Side'' fame. He's said more than once that the reason the comic kept going as long as it did was because of his editor rejecting especially tasteless cartoons.
** Similarly, Bill Watterson of ''[[Calvin and Hobbes]]'' commented in the introduction he wrote to the complete collection he was grateful to his editors. In his view, even when he thought a strip was funny, he would always read their criticisms of rejected material and learn from it.
* The entire ''company'' of Image Comics is perhaps one of the quintessential examples of why [[Executive Meddling]] is not always a bad thing. Image Comics was founded in 1992 by a coalition of former Marvel comic creators, mostly so they could have greater financial and creative control over their work (Marvel's policy at the time was to merchandise the crap out of their characters while only paying artists freelance rates and modest royalties). Now in fairness, the success of Image did lead to a lot of changes in the structure of the comic industry, many of them for the better, and Image itself has changed a lot over the years. On the other hand, the early history of Image Comics in many ways practically ''personifies'' all the things modern comic fans despise about the Dark Age of Comics. The company's success only exacerbated the growing popularity of infamous Dark Age comic tropes like [[Darker and Edgier]], the [[Dark Age of Supernames]], and the [[Nineties Anti-Hero]]. Many of the more reviled icons of the Dark Age originate from or were associated with Image Comics. And all because someone thought it was a good idea to found a company based entirely on
* [[Alan Moore]] as well. One past editor recalls that during one project in the 1980s, he decided to step back and involve himself as little as possible ("Who copy-edits Alan Moore, for God's sake?" according to [[That Other Wiki]]). Of course, that project was ''[[Watchmen]]'', so maybe the [[Tropes Are Not Bad|trope isn't ''always'' bad]].
== Film ==
* During the "[[New Hollywood]]" of 1970s cinema, the star power of directors like [[Francis Ford Coppola]] (who became a star with ''[[The Godfather]]'' and ''[[Apocalypse Now]]''), Michael Cimino (''[[The Deer Hunter]]''), [[Martin Scorsese]] (''Mean Streets'', ''[[Taxi Driver]]''), and [[Dennis Hopper]] (''[[Easy Rider]]'') all saw them [[Follow Up Failure|follow up with flops]], most being of the mega variety, due to studio execs leaving them alone in their
* Roberto Benigni. After the success of ''Life is Beautiful'', he was given a massive budget to create his dream project: a version of ''[[Pinocchio]]'' [[What the Hell, Casting Agency?|starring the (lanky 50 year old) director as the eponymous puppet]]. It... didn't do so well.
* [[George Lucas]] directed his most acclaimed films (e.g., ''[[American Graffiti]]'' and ''[[Star Wars]]'') under the financial constraint typically [[Executive Meddling|imposed]] on B pictures to ensure profitability. Twenty-two years later, Lucas returned to direct without fear of meddling, and gave the world [[The Scrappy|Jar-Jar Binks]], [[Romantic Plot Tumor|lines about hating sand]], and one of the [[Narm|most hated]] [[Big No
** It's worth noting that Lucas' biggest successes tend to involve co-writers, screenwriters who completely rewrite his draft script, directors who deliberately depart from the script in ways that makes scenes more meaningful - and which were written at a time when he was regularly bouncing ideas off his personal friends (who happened to include some guy whose last name was Coppola, and another guy named Spielberg). The movies generally seen as his worst creative disasters are the ones where he retained full written and directorial control, didn't discuss the scripts with anyone before filming them, and which were apparently written at a time in his life when he spent ''far'' more time worrying about how the special effects would work than things like, oh, quality dialogue, characterization, or meaningful themes.
** An oddity that some fans believe harmed the prequels is that Lucas gives the impression of trying to answer David Brin's infamous anti-Star Wars screed in the course of the production. Thus we have Amidala as an ''elected'' Queen in her teens, and other stupidities. (If the plot called for a pretty teenaged ruling queen, the rational option would have been to make Naboo a hereditary monarchy in the first place.)
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* There is no way that songs like ''Revolution 9'' could have been made by anyone other than [[The Beatles (band)|The Beatles]].
** Technically, [[Frank Zappa]]'s ''Freak Out'' had a few extended avant-garde passages two years earlier. Zappa talks about himself and Tom Wilson making the album and it's clear he slowly ''gained'' this protection and then some. It went from Wilson slipping him some money for lunch under the table (embarrassingly, Zappa didn't figure out what was going on until later) to loaning a couple grand to rent things for a percussion ensemble Zappa wrote.
** The Beatles gained a first-hand lesson in why this trope isn't such a great thing when they founded Apple. The initial idea for Apple was that it would be a place where people would be able to gain funding for their pet projects without having to debase themselves before "[[The Man]]", thus enabling the flower of creativity to blossom in all its glory (it was [[The Sixties]]
** In a more positive example, ''Sgt. Pepper'' could only have flown under the Beatles, too.
** Another evidence that Protection From Editors might be a bad thing: the album Let It Be. Phil Spector added much orchestral overdubs and embellishments to the album, much to the dissatisfaction of Paul McCartney who favored a more minimalist production. Years later McCartney remixed and remastered Let It Be... Naked, which has the Spector production stripped down and is supposedly closer to the original artistic vision. However, many Beatles fans strongly prefer the original release, some in fact considered Spector's overproduction to be the saving grace of the album.
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== [[Professional Wrestling]] ==
* [[Hulk Hogan]] was the biggest name in the [[WWE]], but when he signed with [[WCW]] in 1994, he was granted creative control over his matches, basically making him a [[God Mode Sue]].
* Long-time [[Professional Wrestling]] writer [[Vince Russo]] rose to prominence as the architect of the [[WWE|WWF]]'s Attitude Era, the time in the late '90s when wrestling was at the peak of popularity thanks to a [[Darker and Edgier]] style (mostly pioneered by [[ECW]], but that's besides the point). However, most wrestling fans discounted the contributions of Vince and Shane McMahon in keeping Russo's raging ego, short attention span, and strange proclivities in check. Since leaving the WWF, he ran WCW into the ground, buried under a morass of dangling plot threads, ridiculous gimmicks, and [[Worked Shoot
** Don't forget there's a good reason [[TNA|they chant "Fire Russo"]] during the "Reverse Battle Royal Gauntlet Which Then Becomes a Scissors On a Pole Match - With Two People Left You Have to Then Put Up on a Rope From Atop A Ladder Then Fetch it Back Down and Shave the Head of the Loser" match. Or the [[Wall Banger|"Electrified Six Sides of Steel" match]].
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[[Category:Creator Standpoint Index]]
[[Category:YMMV Trope]]
[[Category:Creativity Leash]]
[[Category:Protection From Editors]]
[[Category:Self-Demonstrating Article]]
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