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{{quote|''Now it is such a bizarrely improbable coincidence that [[Babel Fish|anything so mindbogglingly useful]] could have evolved purely by chance that some thinkers have chosen to see it as a final and clinching proof of the '''non'''existence of [[God]].''<br />
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== [[Anime]] ==
* This is pretty much the entire premise of ''[[Noein]]''. {{spoiler|The big bad is eventually killed by everyone refusing to acknowledge his existence.}}
* This is more or less how the mighty [[Hellsing|Alucard]] met his demise. {{spoiler|He absorbed the soul of Schrodinger - Nazi catboy, whose prime trait was an ability to exist as long as he could recognize himself. Once absorbed and integrated into Alucard's pool of souls, Schrodinger could recognize himself no longer and disappeared along with Alucard.}} {{spoiler|Well, it worked for a while at least...}}
 
 
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== [[Film]] ==
* At the end of ''[[The Flight of Dragons]]'', the main character defeats the [[Big Bad]] wizard by telling him magic is impossible. Without belief, magic doesn't work and knowledge of science is incompatible with belief in magic.
* In ''The Pirates! Band of Misfits'', [[Everyone Calls Him "Barkeep"|The Pirate Captain]] boards a ship only to find it's a ghost ship. Once he realises the ship isn't solid, he falls right through it.
* In the movie [[Cloak and Dagger (film)|Cloak & Dagger]], Davey has Jack Flack, an imaginary spy that helps him out throughout the movie. After Jack convinces [[My God, What Have I Done?|Davey to shoot a bad guy]] that was trying to kill him, Davey stops believing in Jack, and [[Tear Jerker|Jack just fades from existance.]]
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** Another Pythonic version of this trope was a short animation by Terry Gilliam of Rodin's [[Thinker Pose|The Thinker]] coming up with Descartes' "I think therefore I am." in a thought balloon. When a hand comes from off screen and deflates the balloon with a pin, [[Oh Crap|The Thinker looks up briefly in horror]], then disappears.
* The final episode of ''[[Blackadder|Blackadder the Third]]'' has Prince George getting shot, then rising alive and well due to a [[Pocket Protector]]. When he attempts to show it off, however, he can't find it, remarks "Damn, must have left it on the dresser this morning", and promptly dies.
* Done in the second season of ''[[True Blood]]'' in the case of the [[Nigh Invulnerable]] ancient Maenad, Maryann Forrester. It's revealed by vampire queen Sophie-Anne that Maryann's powers are directly tied to her beliefs, stating everything in the universe imagined itself into existence. Thus by believing in her god Dionysus and becoming a maenad she was immortal. In the end Sam tricks Maryann into believing her god has returned from her sacrificial ritual by [[Shapeshifting]] into a bull and then impaling her in the chest. She is surprised when this happens, but rationalizes that if she is the final sacrifice for her god to come into the world, then she will accept it. She's shocked again when Sam morphs into his human form, questioning if there was even a god. This moment of vulnerability allows Sam to rip her heart out of her chest and crush it into the ground, finally ending her reign of hedonistic [[Mind Control]].
** Which raises the question, if Maryann could make herself invulnerable simply by believing in her god, then wouldn't a human be able to make himself invincible if he believed in their own religion like Christianity? And also, how did everything in the universe imagine itself into existence? Did some random thought just pop out of nowhere and everything came to be?
* The episode "The Mission" from ''[[Amazing Stories (TV series)|Amazing Stories]]''. Here's the description:
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== [[Web Comics]] ==
* [http://www.nuklearpower.com/2005/10/11/episode-610-logic/ This] ''[[8-Bit Theater (Webcomic)|8-bit Theater]]'' strip. (Incidentally, Red Mage tried this much earlier on a giant, and failed miserably.)
** Red Mage also uses similar reasoning in a later strip to deny the existence of 'Megahedron', his supposed avatar of the gods, claiming that it is really just a figment of his own imagination.
*** His reasoning was that, if Megahedron was a figment of Red Mage's own mind, then he'd be smart enough able to convince him of his existence, a task at which he had so far failed (Megahedron's own suggestion). And when Red Mage conceded that point, he went on to say that since Megahedron ''had'' convinced him with that argument, then that means that Megahedron ''is'' a figment. The only problem with that (which RM is too busy ignoring Megahedron to listen to) is that by that logic, Megahedron did ''not'' convince him. So that should convince him, which should not convince him, which should and [[Logic Bomb|oh dear, I've gone all cross-eyed]].
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{{quote|'''Wonderella:''' You are ''blue''.
'''WHITE SPACE''' Oh dear. * pop* }}
* [[PvP|Scratch Fury]] succeeds exactly where [[8-Bit Theater (Webcomic)|Red Mage]] failed in [http://www.pvponline.com/2008/09/10/candles-in-the-dark/ this strip]. To be fair to RM, ''he'' didn't think to write up the equation beforehand.
** And he does it again, to a chimera this time, in [http://www.pvponline.com/2008/09/18/carry-the-one/ this strip]. This time, however, it doesn't go off until he corrects an error in his equation.
* It occurs in [http://smtenterprises.com/Comics/Comic90.html this] Sverd Shelgr strip, though it's more of story mechanics than true logic.
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* [[Protectors of the Plot Continuum]] take [[Brain Bleach|Bleeprin]], a mixture of aspirin and bleach, to ease the pain of working with bad fanfic. The Board Constitution contains a clause which reads thus:
{{quote|Please refrain from reminding the agents that this is chemically impossible. They already know that, and they don't care. However, if you remind them of this, it may stop working. Then they would have to kill you.}}
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYM7Jgljmn0&t=3m40s In this parody of] [[Kingdom Hearts]] known as [[Kingdumb Hearts]], Goofy asks if [[The Heartless]] have no hearts, [[Literal Minded|how can they live.]] {{spoiler|Right after that, Maleficent, Riku, and Kairi all fall over dead}}.
* In his review of [http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/community/myvideos/74334-thebanjokid/video/5112-Banjo+Kid+Reviews%3A+Azumanga+Daioh Azumanga Daioh], the [[The Banjo Kid|Banjo Kid]] muses over whether or not it's possible to expect to be disappointed, promptly [[Earthshattering Kaboom|causing the world to explode]].
* In [[Eddsworld]], the three main characters get a car and get it to fly by "using the Z-Gear of course". It goes up to very trippy music in which Edd and Tom start dancing in the car. Matt then shouts "how can a car fly?" It then falls down to land on top of a plane. This trope is then inverted when the pilot wonders [[Crowning Moment of Funny|whether his '''plane''' can fly]]. Then this continues and when the car gets there, several planes are now below them (each having doubted their flying capability).
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*** In his philosophy Descartes ostensibly sets out to abandon all notions he can't prove, so arguably he doesn't need to disprove himself to stop existing, just disprove his argument for his existing. And also, what is Descartes' proof that he is able to think but the fact that he is thinking at the moment? (Memory of something happening earlier could be false and wouldn't count as proof except for the part that remembering would also involve thinking at that moment.) Of course, it's a pun anyway, so equivocation is an expected part of it. And anyways, for Descartes, "I think, therefore I am" is not even supposed to be a logical deduction but a direct intuition, whatever that's supposed to mean.
**** I remember some summarizing Decartes' argument thusly: "I can doubt everything except that I am doubting. Doubting is a type of thought. I am thinking, therefore, I must be existing."
**** Or, to put it another way. "I cannot doubt my own existence. As that still requires an 'I'.
* In ''[[The Simpsons]]'', Grandpa sees Tennessee Ernie Ford, an old celebrity whom he believes to be dead:
{{quote|'''Tennessee:''' No, you just think I'm dead.
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* The ''[[Phineas and Ferb]]'' episode "Phineas and Ferb's Quantum Boogaloo" has the [[Bad Future]] version of Candace disappearing in one of these after Phineas points out she'd be gone after the two Candaces undid that future. Also earlier in the episode (...or, alternately, twenty years later), Candace climbed a holographic tree and stayed in the air until she remembered it was holographic, at which point it turns static and she suddenly fell.
* In the ''[[Powerpuff Girls]]'' musical episode, a gnome takes their powers to take the evil out of the city. Later, they regained them after learning that the gnome was being a communist by feeding off the wants of the people to thank him from that point on and forcing them to worship him.
** They fought him later, winning by singing about how everything needs its opposites and chasing him off the edge of a giant vine. He then went into a non-singing speech saying "As I fall towards the earth, seeing the universe above me, I learn that life evolves, revolves, and dissolves completely around its opposites. Therefore, I conclude that I cannot exist in my utopian mind." when he hit the ground, All the lines became white and the colors became black, and he became a silent explosion.
* An episode of [[El Tigre]] had Frida defeat a skeleton by pointing out there was noting holding it up, causing it to collapse.
* During the intro to an ''[[Arthur]]'' episode, Arthur is talking about the upcoming story while Francine is flying around in the background. At the end of the intro Arthur turns around and yells to Francine that flying around like that is impossible. She immediately crashes to the ground.
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* [http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/S/schroedinbug.html Schroedinbugs] are bugs in which a program works fine until someone looking at the source code realizes it shouldn't work, at which point it stops working.
** This actually does occasionally happen, mostly because it only works because of some strange bit of junk data lodged in the memory it references. When the program is edited, it references something else, which means that the little bit of randomness that made it work isn't there anymore.
* It's common to wake up from a dream when you realize that you're dreaming.
** If you manage to [[Lucid Dream|stay in the dream]] however, you can [[Reality Warper|take over the place.]]