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* {{spoiler|1=In one of John's missions back home, he and his boy Jack goes to herd cattles with Bonnie. Along the way to her ranch, John asks his son to say hello to her. When he does, John laughs and says: "The arrogance of youth. They get a lil' fur around their lips and they think they know it all." [[Main/ptitle 0 z 548336167 v|What the hell, John?]] I mean, you asked the boy to say hello to Bonnie and he did. Why are you calling him arrogant? No wonder he had a lot of complaints about you when you came home. >____> I'm aware John was probably joking, but I just didn't get it.}}
** {{spoiler|It was the way Jack said it.}}
** {{spoiler|So, he was supposed to say, "Hello, Mrs. [[Mc Farlane]]McFarlane" instead of just "Hello" like he knew her already?}}
*** {{spoiler|More along the lines of ''tone of voice''.}}
*** {{spoiler|Exactly. This was a hundred years ago, there were certain ways of behaving around a lady, especially one you'd only just met. Saying "hello", in a bored tone says you'd rather be left alone, and is rather rude. He ''should'' have said something along the lines of "Nice to meet you, Miss," or "Good day to you, Ms. [[Mc Farlane]]McFarlane." You know, something beyond a token grunt.}}
 
 
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** Red Dead Revolver is set about forty years before Redemption, and since Cameras weren't exactly common technology in the 1860s we can assume that Red never had a picture of himself taken. Which means there is a high chance that practically nobody as of Redemption can accurately say what Red looked like. That and the events of Revolver are regarded as more or less a folk tale or urban legend when Redemption is set.
 
== Bonnie [[Mc Farlane]]McFarlane ==
* Okay, so in the opening scene, we can see Bonnie [[Mc Farlane]]McFarlane on the train from Blackwater. Ten minutes of plot later, when John first meets Bill at Fort Mercer, the former gets shot and rescued by...Bonnie [[Mc Farlane]]McFarlane! Now, I'd know it'd make for a sucky game if it ended ten minutes after it began, but can someone tell me how and why Bonnie was there when she was, presumably, going back home to her ranch? I'm gonna have to pull an [[Ironic Echo]] on her and ask: "Well, what were ''you'' doing out there, Miss [[Mc Farlane]]McFarlane?"
** One of her surviving brothers lives in Blackwater (he's a banker or somesuch). Perhaps she was visiting?
** Actually, this is a really good point. Fort Mercer is nowhere near the [[Mc Farlane]]McFarlane Ranch or Blackwater. She wouldn't really have any reason to go that way. But, {{spoiler|it's implied in the game that Bonnie really cares for John. The mission where she meets your wife, she stands in the road and watches the Marstons leave. John's wife also comments about Ms. [[Mc Farlane]]McFarlane looking at him. Maybe Bonnie fell for John when she first saw him on the train, like love at first sight. Then she followed him because she couldn't stand knowing she would never see him again. Playing it cool, she doesn't stop where he stopped at Mercer and travels past it, returning later with random character #2 to see if he survived an encounter with a known bandit hideout. Noone gets that lucky, and it sure doesn't seem like the west for a random person to be so kind.}} Or does it?
** But it still doesn't make sense. She only gets feelings for John AFTER she's rescued him and he's done good things for her. At the beginning of the game, he's just a stupid guy that managed to get himself shot at Fort Mercer.
*** However, since the train she was on stopped at Armadillo, it's possible that she was just on her way back home until she saw (in her eyes) a man lying on the ground, perhaps close to death at Fort Mercer and she decided she wasn't going to leave without at least doing ''something'' for this man. Thankfully, he just so happened to be our guy.
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** Ross's philosophy and attitude towards the old ways of the West are pretty clear-regardless of circumstances or redeeming actions, no one escapes justice. Bill used to be part of Dutch's gang and has done some pretty reprehensible things both before and after leaving it. {{spoiler|If John Marston, the man who has done the most to redeem his past actions, has to die, then so does the isolated and probably frightened Bill Williamson.}}
** Has everyone forgot the Ridgewood Farm mission where they terrorize the settlement? How about the time they kidnapped Bonnie MacFarlane?
** Oh, and don't forget burning the [[Mc Farlane]]McFarlane Barn and trying to kill you a good number of times. They do plenty to make themselves known in New Austin.