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# ''The Rogue Crew'' (2011)
[[Author Existence Failure|Jacques died of a heart attack]] [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-12380763 on 5 February 2011], leaving his 22nd novel, ''The Rogue Crew'', finished but unpublished; the book was later released on May
Has a [[Redwall/Characters|character page]] in progress.
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* [[All Monks Know Kung Fu]]: For a supposedly peaceful bunch, the Redwallers are pretty handy when it comes to war.
** Peaceful doesn't necessarily mean Pacifist, as many would-be conquerors found out the hard way.
* [[Exclusively Evil]]: "Vermin"
** Averted in ''Marlfox'', which concludes with the rat army, who had hated their lot in life, joyfully tossing out their arms and armor and learning to live as farmers.
** Somewhat subverted in ''The Sable Quean''. The Quean and one of her [[Mooks]] are plotting revenge on [[The Starscream]], Zwilt the Shade. He {{spoiler|tried to kill the Quean and sent the Mook's mate to his death.}} As they talk about their plans, [[Even Evil Has Loved Ones|we hear, for the first time, a vermin say the words, "I loved him."]]
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* [[Antagonist Title]]: ''Marlfox'', ''Doomwyte'', and ''The Sable Quean''.
* [[Anthropomorphic Shift]]: Overall, the characters in Redwall are far more like actual animals at the beginning of the series than they are in the most recent novels. Even the cover art reflects this, as some of the [[media:mmcover.jpg|earlier]] [[media:rwall.jpg|books]] show the characters as far less anthropomorphic than some of the [[media:elala.jpg|later]] [[media:rtam.jpg|ones]].
* [[Anticlimax]]: You would ''think Mattimeo'' would end between a big showdown with Slagar and
** ''[[Zig-Zagging Trope|Triple]]'' [[Subverted Trope|subversion]] in ''Mariel of Redwall''. At first it looks like Rawnblade and Gabool are about to get into a massive swordfight...but then Rawnblade disarms Gabool with little effort. Then, after a small chase, {{spoiler|Gabool challenges Rawnblade to a fight using nothing but their paws, only for Rawnblade to fall into Skrabblag's chamber.}} Just when you think the fight will end with Mariel and her friends taking on Gabool themselves, {{spoiler|Rawnblade grabs the scorpion and throws it out the hole onto Gabool, [[Hoist by His Own Petard|where it promptly stings him in the head and kills him.]] And then Dandin chops the scorpion in half with ease.}}
** At the end of ''Taggerung'', Deyna, Skipper, and several otters are seconds away from fighting the entire Juskabor tribe, and shit is about to hit the fan. What happens next? {{spoiler|Nothing. Lord Russano pops up out of nowhere (with at least one thousand hares backing him up) and confronts Ruggan Bor. The fox surrenders in a short amount of time, and Russano and his hares force the Juska tribe to crawl away from Redwall.}} A few pages later the book ends.
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** Gulo the Savage. His response when one of his soldiers complains about his injuries? ''Kill the guy and eat him.''
* [[Bad Dreams]]: [[The Insomniac|Tsarmina and Gabool]]. Mokkan realizes that killing off siblings and becoming king brings bad dreams his first night. Tagg learns of Nimbalo's past through the latter's sleeptalking.
* [[Barbarian Tribe
** The Gawtrybe might also fall into this category; although they're more articulate than the others on the list, they're basically a tribe of sociopathic children.
* [[Battle Cry]]: ''Eulaliaaaa!''
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** Actually, Martin's sword isn't really all that big. It's definitely awesome and [[Maybe Magic, Maybe Mundane|possibly magical]], but it's size is such that pretty much any reasonably fit woodlander can use it.
* [[Big Bad]]: In order: Cluny the Scourge, Tsarmina Greeneyes, Slagar the Cruel, Gabool the Wild, Feragho the Assassin, Badrang the Tyrant, Urgan Nagru, Swartt Sixclaw, Emperor Ublaz Mad Eyes, Damug Warfang, Mokkan, Vilu Daskar, Ungatt Trunn, several major villains (with Vallug Bowbeast the most prominent/evil one), Princess Kurda, Raga Bol, Gulo the Savage, Riggu Felis, Vizka Longtooth, Korvus Skurr, Quean Vilaya, Razzid Wearat.
* [[Big Bad Ensemble]]: The number of [[Big Bad
* [[Bigger Bad]]: Malkariss acts as this in Mattimeo, as Slagar The Cruel is in fact working for him throughout the novel. And then {{spoiler|he turns out to be a misshapen wimp}}.
** Also King Agarnu in ''Triss''.
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* [[Character Title]]: ''Triss'', ''Mattimeo'', ''Martin the Warrior'', ''Lord Brocktree'', ''Rakkety Tam'', ''Mariel of Redwall''... sheesh, it never ends!
* [[Characterization Marches On]]: In ''Mariel of Redwall'', it was explicitly stated that Rawnblade was the first badger lord to suffer the Bloodwrath since Boar the Fighter. As of ''Outcast of Redwall'', the Bloodwrath abruptly became something that all badgers got every time they fought.
** Well, ''Outcast'' is set before ''Mariel''
** Doesn't work, because ''Outcast'' is still set a while after the time of Boar the Fighter.
** ''Outcast'' is chronologically both during and after the time of Boar. Sunflash the Mace, the badger in ''Outcast'', actually shows up in one of the final scenes of ''Mossflower'', the book Boar dies in. This scene is replayed in ''Outcast'' towards the middle of the book.
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* [[Clock Tower]]: The climax of ''Redwall'' takes place in a ''bell'' tower, but it's close enough.
* [[Conjoined Twins|Conjoined Triplets]]: The "three-headed dragon" in ''Triss'' is actually a set of adder triplets, bound together by a mace and chain they were unable to remove.
* [[Co-Dragons]]: Several [[Big Bad
* [[Continuity Drift]]: The first book of the series more or less stated that the stories take place in the "real world" - there's a full-sized church near Redwall Abbey, some vermin arrive stowed away in a horse-drawn carriage, and [[Big Bad]] Cluny the Scourge is said to come from Portugal. Three or four books down the line, the Redwall world has its own geography, and neither humans nor Portugal has anything to do with it.
** Although the cats in High Rhulain imply that their distant ancestors were once pets.
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* [[Covers Always Lie]]: The description on the cover of the hardback version of ''Outcast of Redwall'' described Redwall coming under attack from Swartt's army and Veil being forced to choose between his home and his father.
* [[Trailers Always Spoil|Covers Always Spoil]]: The back of ''Outcast of Redwall'' spoils Veil getting exiled from Redwall. This doesn't happen until the ''very end'' of Part 2 of the book.
* [[Crap Saccharine World]]: Redwall and Salamandastron are basically little [[Sugar Bowl
* [[Crapsack World]]: Only and arguably in the later books. Eventually, the world consists of Redwall, Salamandastron...and in between, a wretched hive of [[Exclusively Evil]] vermin ready to kill or enslave anybeast who steps outside.
* [[Creepy Crossdresser]]: It probably wasn't ''meant'' to be read that way, but the evil Emperor Ublaz Mad Eyes has a weird fixation on silk robes, perfume, nail polish, and pink pearls.
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* [[Cut His Heart Out with a Spoon]]: Most notably, Clogg's announcement that he wishes to cut Badrang's head off and throw it in his face.
* [[Darker and Edgier]]: According to this '''SPOILER LADEN''' [http://redwall.wikia.com/wiki/News:%22Doomwyte%22_-_Reviewed_by_the_Redwall_Wiki Review] of ''Doomwyte'', the series went this way with the later novels. [[Your Mileage May Vary]] as to whether this actually represents a return to the tone of earlier novels in the series.
** If any of the later books, ''Rakkety Tam''. YMMV again; the book itself isn't exactly darker or edgier (since the series already has loads of [[Family-Unfriendly Violence]]), but the [[Big Bad]] is. He and his army are all cannibalistic and (relatively) competent villains. But like every other Redwall book, the amount of [[Sacrificial Lion
* [[David Versus Goliath]]: Matthias vs. the Wearat (''Mattimeo''), Tam vs. Gulo (''Rakkety Tam''); ''arguably'' Martin vs. Tsarmina (''Mossflower'')
* [[Dead Guy, Junior]]: Mattimeo's full name is Matthias Methuselah Mortimer. Two out of three are dead at the time of his birth.
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** Veil unloads on his father near the end of ''Outcast''. "Some warlord you are. I've seen more action from a squashed frog!"
* [[Death by Childbirth]]: Bluefen (Veil's mum).
* [[Death by Falling Over]]: ({{spoiler|Slagar the Cruel, Princess Kurda, Queen Vilaya,}})... it is amazing how many Redwall [[Big Bad
* [[Death by Looking Up]]: {{spoiler|Cluny}}.
* [[Death by Materialism]]: [[Too Dumb to Live|Flogga.]] Sure, you should definitely trust Gabool just because he promised you treasure and completely ignore that [[Villainous Breakdown|he's spent the last several days going crazy]] and thinks you're Greypatch, the rat he's been trying to kill. [[Sarcasm Mode|Nothing could possibly go wrong]].
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** Ferahgo was a highly dangerous fighter, but he was still a coward (look at his "duel" with Urthstripe for proof of that).
** All of the Marlfoxes were not only smart, but very skilled and stealthy fighters. Gelltor in particular had the balls to take on Janglur ''by himself''. The only coward in the entire family was Mokkan, and Lantur and High Queen Silth (although they don't fight anyone in battle).
** And in a less known case (''Triss''), the Pure Ferret [[Royals Who Actually Do Something|King Sarengo]] was a major subversion of this, as he attacked and killed a full grown female adder solo. (Granted, he was only searching for a way to reach and plunder Redwall, and he died from his
* [[Disability Superpower]]: Simeon from ''Mariel'' and Cregga in ''Taggerung'' are both [[Blind Seer
* [[Disc One Final Boss]]: The "[[Big Bad]]" in ''Taggerung'' gets killed off quite early into the story, and several other vermin begin to take his role as the main villain.
* [[Disney Villain Death]]: See [[Death by Falling Over]]. Also {{spoiler|Ferahgo}} and {{spoiler|Swartt Sixclaw}}.
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* [[Epic Flail]]: Ferahgo the Assassin and Vizka Longtooth both use mace-and-chains; the former as a secondary weapon, and the latter as his primary weapon. A few other random villains have used them as well.
** In ''Loamhedge'', {{spoiler|Lonna uses Raga Bol's ''carcass as a flail''}}. [[There Is No Kill Like Overkill|Geez...]]
* [[Even Evil Has Loved Ones]]: Ferahgo openly states that he'd let Klitch live if he was caught plotting rebellion just because Klitch is his son, {{spoiler|Vilaya is very distressed by the death of her confidante Dirva, who was said to be something a mother figure}}, and a few of the minor vermin are clearly upset when their partners or friends are killed. In ''The Sable Quean'', a vermin speaking of her deceased mate actually
* [[Even Evil Has Standards]]: It is said in ''Mariel of Redwall'' that alone out of all villains, sea rats are the only ones verminous enough to use fire as a weapon.
** Although it was acknowledged that, being creatures who live on the ocean, they may simply not understand the dangers of starting fires in a forest.
*** [[Did Not Do the Research]]: The rats are bigger assholes than even Jacques suspected. Fire is the most dreaded occurance aboard ship, because it is extremely difficult to stop. Flooding can be contained relatively easily if you're quick about it, and abovewater impacts typically won't put the ship at risk. Fire, however, cannot be contained, and with the tools available at that tech level, cannot be fought. If you start a fire aboard ship you're going to be fishfood shortly. The sea rats more than ''anyone'' should fear fire as a weapon.
** Sawney Rath also refuses to kill a mother nursing a babe. Whether a villain is considered a [[I'm a Humanitarian|cannib-]] [[Carnivore Confusion|eating other speaking animals]] might also be a clue as to how monstrous they're supposed to
** Vizka Longtooth's pirate crew deserted him after he murdered two of his own crew members in cold blood and for no reason whatsoever.
** And during the performer's play in ''Martin the Warrior'', when Ballaw asks the vermin spectators if he should "kill" a pretty squirrelmaiden with a (trick) knife, none of them speak up. Except [[Big Bad|Badrang]].
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* [[Evil Is Petty]]: Ublaz's big Evil Plan, for which he slaughtered entire tribes and put in years and years of work? Was all so he could have a ''pink pearl crown''. He didn't even seem to think the pearls were magical, he just thought they were pretty. He must have ''way'' too much empty time on his hands. He is a king, so it's likely he does.
** This could also apply to Triss. Plugg didn't think King Agarnu would send [[Psychopathic Manchild|Prince Bladd]] and [[God Save Us From the Queen|Princess Kurda]] sailing across the ocean from Riftgard to Mossflower just to find a long-dead skeleton, a gold crown and a pawring; he thought there ''had'' to be more to it than that.
** Ferahgo spends a full season sending trackers after a pair of [[Mook
* [[The Evil Prince
** [[Word of God]] says that her name came about as a mix of both "tsarina" and "mean".
** Also Kurda.
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* [[False Reassurance]]: The scene with Matthias and Cluny in the belltower. It's either [[Crowning Moment of Awesome|awesome]] or [[Moral Dissonance|cringe-worthy]].
* [[Family-Unfriendly Death]]: Some characters die in fairly horrible ways. It can be [[Nightmare Fuel|disturbing]] to some.
** One of the most horrifying examples took place in ''The Legend of Luke''. Two rats are bullying a seemingly defenseless otter, taunting about how they're going to drown him [[For the Evulz|just because they can]]. Martin sees this, but Log-a-
* [[Family-Unfriendly Violence]]: Yep.
* [[Fantasy Counterpart Culture]]: In an odd way, with the moles universally being given broad Somerset accents and the hares talking like [[WW 2]] RAF pilots.
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* [[Funetik Aksent]]: Used a ''lot'' - to the point that the moles' accent is portrayed as indecipherable in the first book, burr aye! Methuselah has to ''translate'' mole dialect into ordinary speech for Matthias!
* [[Foregone Conclusion]]: See the [[Downer Ending]] above. {{spoiler|Since a previous book starts with Martin already on exile alone, it was practically a given that he would either leave Rose behind or she was going to die.}}
* [[Frothy Mugs of Water]]: [[Averted Trope|Averted.]] '''Hard.''' Canon states Matthias is the equivalent of about thirteen during the events of Redwall and you see him drinking ale and cider with the rest, and in British English, there is no such thing as ''hard'' or ''soft'' cider: cider is alcoholic by definition. In fact the [[Food Porn]] has lots of gratuitous drinking, [[The Guards Must Be Crazy|vermin sentries are easily taken out of action by leaving Grog lying around were they will find it]], the multiple [[Poison Chalice Switcheroo
** Granted, during the Middle Ages there was no drinking age and beer was often safer than the water.
* [[Furry Confusion]]: Mostly avoided, though there are still a few oddities; lizards and frogs are either savage but sapient carnivores or cute pets with about the intelligence level of real-world monkeys.
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** Also includes Lonna Bowstripe from ''Loamhedge''; he has a pretty hefty scar across his face from an encounter with Raga Bol's scimitar, but he's a good guy.
* [[Gorn]]: The description of the pus-oozing, festering wounds on Baliss's face are a bit ''too'' enthusiastic. You almost feel sorry for it. Also, the infamous searat ballad "Slaughter of the Crew of the ''Rusty Chain''", which is [[Exactly What It Says on the Tin]].
** In the first book, Cluny has a very vivid nightmare/vision involving the shades of his dead
** The final duel between Martin and Tsarmina in ''Mossflower'' quickly degenerates into a shockingly graphic war of attrition to see who can take the most horrible wounds.
* [[Gory Discretion Shot]]: One of the main reasons why the TV series is [[Lighter and Softer]].
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*** When Sunflash starts writing poetry to Skarlath, that probably goes beyond "borderline".
*** To be fair, he does it after {{spoiler|Skarlath dies}}.
* [[Hoist by His Own Petard]]: Some of the [[Big Bad
* [[Hold Your Hippogriffs]]:
** "the leaf calling the grass green"
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* [[Karma Houdini]]: Despite the fact that nearly every major villain in every book dies, there have been a few exceptions...
** Juska chieftain Ruggan Bor in ''Taggerung'' was humiliated and sent home with his tail between his legs by badger lord Russano the Wise. Possibly justified in that he hadn't actually harmed Redwall yet.
** In ''Loamhedge'', [[Big Bad Wannabe|Badredd]] and his cronies ran off into Mossflower after escaping from the clutches of Raga Bol. (But seeing as they were [[Affably Evil]] [[Punch Clock Villain
** Cap'n Tramun Clogg was the sole survivor of the final battle in ''Martin the Warrior'', but went insane and spent the rest of his days hanging around Marshank's ruins and talking to corpses.
** Also, Agrill in ''Martin The Warrior.'' He drugs the protagonists for absolutely no reason other than disliking them, and it's made very clear that, had they not been in the company of Boldred, he would have ''murdered'' them. Not only is he not punished for this, no one even seems to care.
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* [[Karmic Death]]: Many of the main villains had very karmic deaths. Examples: {{spoiler|Cluny was crushed by the bell that had earlier awakened him from his nightmares; hydrophobic Tsarmina drowned; Gabool was stung to death by his pet scorpion, whom he had used to execute foes previously; Ublaz was bitten by his pet snake; Princess Kurda fell and stabbed herself on her own broken sword; Riggu Felis was killed by the same barbed star that he earlier used to trap Pandion; Vilaya fell on her own poisoned dagger, which she had used to kill numerous characters.}}
** Some of the minor villains or [[The Dragon|Dragons]] have karmic deaths too. For instance, Brool and Renn are killed by Veil shortly after they tied him up and stole all his food and gear; the Wraith is accidentally knocked off Salamandastron by Porty; {{spoiler|Klitch drinks the water Farran poisoned just when he thinks he's survived the gruesome battle at Salamandastron; Karangool was presumably whipped and killed by Bucko Bigbones, whom he had tortured in the past}}.
** {{spoiler|Tugga Bruster is [[Impaled with Extreme Prejudice|stabbed in the chest by Tala]] as revenge for killing her husband Chigid}}. This is rather interesting case. Unlike all the names listed above, {{spoiler|Tugga Bruster}} wasn't evil or even a vermin. He was just [[Jerkass|an asshole]] who made even the [[Punch Clock Villain
* [[Kindhearted Simpleton]]: Notably Blaggut.
* [[Kissing Cousins]]: Arguably. In ''Doomwyte'' where two descendants of {{spoiler|Gonff}} get married, but since by this point [[Medieval Stasis|a couple of thousand seasons have passed since the shared ancestor was alive]] it probably doesn't count anymore.
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* [[Playful Otter]]: Several.
* [[Plot Armor]]: As the series goes on, it gets stronger and stronger, and covers more and more of the heroes. Earlier in the series [[Anyone Can Die]].
** [[Up to Eleven|Taken to extremes]] in ''Taggerung''. With the exception of Rillflag and {{spoiler|Cregga Rose Eyes}}, the only good guys who die in the novel are nameless [[Red Shirt
* [[Plot Tumor]]: Salamandastron becomes progressively far more important.
* [[Plucky Comic Relief]]: Basil Stag Hare.
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** Swartt Sixclaw, as his sole motivation in the entire book for stalking Sunflash was to kill him for maiming his infamous six-clawed paw.
* [[Rodents of Unusual Size]]: Damug Warfang is a "Greatrat", twice the size of a normal rat.
** Also, some [[Fanon]] suggests
* [[Romantic Two-Girl Friendship]]: Piknim and Craklyn.
* [[Rule of Cool]]: Salamandastron is a ''hollowed out volcano fortress'' ruled by ''berserker and often seer badgers'' all of whom [[Took a Level in Badass]] with a standing army of posh hares whose job primarily consists of stopping Pirates and Mook Hordes from ''taking over the world!'' and they have a catchphrase: ''Eulaliaaaa!''
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* [[Seldom-Seen Species]]: Stoats and pine martens, most prominently.
* [[Senseless Sacrifice]]: Averted ''and'' played straight with {{spoiler|Bragoon and Saro}}. Sure, they committed a [[Heroic Sacrifice]] in order to save Horty, Springald and Fenna, but if you get past a moment of [[Fridge Brilliance]], you'll realize {{spoiler|they wouldn't have had to sacrifice themselves if they just stayed away from Loamhedge, since Martha wound up walking on her own}}.
* [[Sequel Escalation]]: In the early books, the vermin armies keep getting bigger and the [[Big Bad
* [[Sesquipedalian Loquaciousness]]: The hares, to the point that even other hares sometimes struggle to understand them.
{{quote|"So, what happens when the bally precipitation ceases?"
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* [[Supreme Chef]]: Most Redwallers, small woodland families, Beau (although that may just be in comparison to [[Lethal Chef|the rest of the crew]]), and the hares of Salamandastron.
* [[Surprise Creepy]]: Cute fluffy animals! That stab each other messily!
* [[Surrounded by Idiots]]: The [[Armies Are Evil|Armies]] of most [[Big Bad
** [[Lampshade Hanging|Lampshaded]] in the very first book: [[Big Bad|Cluny]] [[Bad Boss|The Scourge]] ponders the fact that his underlings generally are dumb as bricks and decides that their inability to think for themselves (and resulting obedience) outweighs their incompetence.
** In the animated series Badrang ''screams'' this, verbatim, from the wall of his fortress after another failure. His minions are indeed phenomenally stupid; the dumbest in the whole show.
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** Also, several badgers have "stripe" in their names.
** The squirrel warriors as well, "Reguba" is a common bloodline, and last name.
** And many [[Big Bad
* [[There Is No Kill Like Overkill]]: Do '''''NOT''''' fuck with badgers, especially Lonna Bowstripe. {{spoiler|He uses Raga Bol's body as a shield, and he's promptly impaled by a few spears. Afterwards, Lonna uses Raga's carcass as a flail to kill the other Searats. And then he chunks his grotesque body at a tree.}}
* [[They Call Him "Sword"]]: Sunflash the Mace from ''Outcast''. Also, Orlando the Axe.
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* [[Tim Curry]] voices Slagar the Cruel in the TV series.
* [[Tome of Prophecy]]: The painted cavern behind the boulder.
* [[Too Dumb to Live]]: Ungatt Trunn, the [[Big Bad]] of ''Lord Brocktree''. He has the single biggest army in the series, and he attempts to feed them by sending out only a few small foraging
** {{spoiler|Ovus}} and {{spoiler|Bluddbeak}}, two very old
* [[Took a Level in Badass]]: Matthias, occurring literally as he gets his hands on Martin's sword. All of a sudden he has the strength, stamina, and fighting experience to go toe-to-toe with Cluny, a powerful and experienced rat warlord.
** Dann too. He spends the first part of ''Marlfox'' being a "disappointment" to his father, and he even calls himself a coward when he and Song run away from Raventail (who had captured Dippler and Burble). He immediately decides to rescue his two friends, and when he encounters Raventail a second time, ''he beats the shit out of him''. From that moment on his badassery just got better and better.
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* [[Villainous Breakdown]]: Several examples. Gabool the Wild in ''Mariel of Redwall'' does it most obviously and impressively. He goes from being evil but reasonably lucid to a gibbering insomniac who can't tell his followers from his sworn enemies and starts to believe that a plundered bell understands what he's saying and rings itself to mock him.
** Slagar the Cruel in ''Mattimeo'' is already crazy at the start, blaming Matthias and the Redwallers for the horrible scarring on his face. By the end, he's pretty much raving, frantically reassuring himself that however events turn out, he will "win" somehow. He even plans to steal Matthias' sword, now convinced that it is magic and grants victory to whoever wields it.
** Gulo starts out as being creepy, scary, and menacing, but after he survives falling down the waterfall, he becomes [[Ax Crazy]], starts [[Laughing Mad]], rambles about his dead brother and talks to
** Tsarmina in ''Mossflower'' also does this. Granted she's being driven insane by a constant dripping noise and the fact that everything she tries to destroy the resistance fails.
** Cap'n Clogg's really the only character who had a justified reason for his breakdown. After all, he did suffer a head injury.(Though who KNOWS what happened when Gulo fell down the waterfall - he could have hit his head as well.)
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* [[Waif Fu]]: Mariel Gullwhacker.
* [[Wacky Wayside Tribe]]: Used constantly. ''The Legend of Luke'' would only be one-third the length without it.
** The Flitchaye could certainly count for this in ''Mariel of Redwall'. Their temporary capturing of Mariel and her friends serve little to no purpose but to add a couple of chapters extra padding. And after it's over, [[
*** Well, near the end of the book it ''does'' mention that the scattered survivors of Greypatch's pirate crew were fleeing towards Flitchaye territory, with the implication that it would be the end of them.
** Used again in ''Doomwyte'' with the Gonflins, a literal tribe of [[Lovable Rogue|thieves and robbers]].
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