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* Comics were always [[Nostalgia Filter|better when you were a kid]]. Every age since then has been a [[Dork Age]].

*** Blame it on [[Joe Quesada|Quesada]]. They were originally supposed to be Peter's kids, but about halfway through, Quesada thought that would have made him too old. Which also implies that would somehow not apply to Gwen, even though she's roughly the same age as Peter. It would have made more sense if that had been something like Ultimate Black Cat but Gwen? Nope. Not happening.

* Disney just bought Marvel and it's already RUINED FOREVER!!

** Some fans actually WANT Disney to interfere, as at least then with some corporate eyes listening to the audience, [[Executive Meddling]] would, for once, be a much needed requirement for those [[Running the Asylum]].

** This complaint is likely due to [[Public Medium Ignorance]]. People claim Disney will make Marvel more kid-friendly, not realizing that Disney has owned plenty of non kid-friendly stuff without [[Executive Meddling|meddling with it]] (including the studio [[Miramax Films|Miramax]], which has released R-rated films like [[Pulp Fiction]]).

*** Or thinking that kid-friendly means sunshine and lollipops. It is possible to find a level that's kid-friendly but still entertaining for adults, as Disney has shown with...pretty much all of their animated movies.

**** On the upside part of the [[And the Fandom Rejoiced|Fandom Rejoiced]] at the prospect of Marvel content in [[Kingdom Hearts]] games

* The 2010-2011 ''[[Wonder Woman]]'' reboot provoked a reaction like this; partly due to the costume redesign which gave Wonder Woman pants rather than her traditional star-spangled panties (which also introduced a bit of [[Unpleasable Fanbase]], since the previous looks had frequently been criticized for being [[Stripperiffic]]), and partly due to the nature of the storyline, which saw Wonder Woman's past continuity rebooted into an [[Alternate History]], removing many of the traditional elements of her backstory and canon. Despite the fact that it was acknowledged upfront that this timeline was an aberration to what was supposed to happen and that the plot was to involve [[Wonder Woman]] [[Set Right What Once Went Wrong|Setting Right What Once Went Wrong]], a lot of fans still complained about [[Completely Missing the Point|how they'd changed everything]].

* When news broke in 2011 that [[DC Comics]] were going to [[Continuity Reboot|reboot]] their line of superhero comics back to #1 issues<ref>yes, even those series that have upwards of ''800'' issues by now</ref>, the prevailing fan reaction was essentially this trope.

*** This reboot seems like another nail in the coffin containing the relationship between Green Arrow's first sidekick Roy Harper and his daughter Lian. After the latter was killed in ''[[Cry for Justice]]'' the treatment of Roy descending into drug-fueled anti-heroism managed to get worse and worse. At first, fans were a little relieved when they learned that Roy would be getting his right arm back in the reboot, then it was announced that Lian would no longer exist.

*** One change that's gotten major criticism from the fans is making Barbara Gordon Batgirl again, by taking her out of her wheelchair. The wheelchair she's been in ''for over twenty years now''. The fans got even angrier when DC revealed that in this new universe, ''she was still shot and crippled, but came right out of it''. {{spoiler|After several years, but the point still stands.}} Many fans consider this blatant sexism and ableism<ref>discrimination of the handicapped</ref>, believing that Barbara was much better as Oracle, as both a superhero and an icon, than she ever was as Batgirl.

*** This is the same with all of the books written by Scott Lobdell, especially [[Teen Titans (Comic Book)|Teen Titans]].

* Serious [[Internet Backdraft]] over the guy who's supposed to replace {{spoiler|Thor}} after Fear Itself (but it looks like some other characters might get [[Replacement Scrappy|new people in their roles too]] so he's not the only one), despite the {{spoiler|Thor}} books being the best sellers of Marvel right now. Also, the guy he's replacing hasn't even died in-story yet, and won't until October/November (posted first day of September), so it feels like a slap in the face.

** Also because he and the other 2 replacements (going by the promo material for "Shattered Heroes" aka the November line) looked like they went to the [[Nineties Anti-Hero]] school. Just when Marvel was easing off the [[Wangst]] after Siege!