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** Metallica, and [[Ruined FOREVER]] means we need to mention ''St Anger''? Even Metallica has all but disowned this record.
* Pretty much any band that changes its sound is accused of "selling out."
** The band doesn't even have to change its sound. All it has to do is [[It's Popular, Now It Sucks|have a Top 40 hit or two after years of toiling in relative obscurity]]. There are many examples, especially from '70s album rock and '90s alternative.
** They either [[They Changed It, Now It Sucks|changed it for the label]], or [[It's the Same, Now It Sucks|didn't change it for the label]].
* Hip-hop is ruined forever about once a week depending on who you ask.
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* Fans of ''Against Me!'' claimed the band sold out when they moved from the tiny No Idea label to Fat Wreck Chords in 2003, to the point where fans slashed the tires of the bands tour van and vandalised it and reportedly poured bleached over their merch table. The bizarre thing is that Fat Wreck Chords was well known for being anti-establishment indie label. Ironically, there was alot less outcry when the band left FWC for an actual major label, Sire Records in 2007.
* When ''[[The Beatles]]'' were still only popular in their hometown, drummer [[The Pete Best|Pete Best was given the boot]] for the more competent Ringo Starr. Many fans cried [[Ruined FOREVER]] at the time, but everything turned out ok.
* In 1965, [[Bob Dylan]]'s switching from an acoustic guitar to an electric one provoked great outrage of this nature from his folk rock fans. This went beyond 'ruined' forever; some even considered him a traitor to folk rock, and there were cries of 'Judas!' when he played electric at the Newport Folk Festival.
* After years of being bashed for their artsy prog-rock pretentiousness, [[Yes]] released their ''90125'' album with a more conventional rock sound--and were immediately declared Ruined Forever.
** The same thing happened when [[Peter Gabriel]] left ''[[Genesis (band)|Genesis]]'' and [[Phil Collins]] took over lead vocals.
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** Not forever, provided the original, unruined masters still exist. It's likely that once the companies come out with a new format claimed to be 'the best sound quality ever' they will use the original masters and people will think that it's an improvement.
* "American Pie", according to the most popular fan theory, is a requiem for popular music and pop culture in general after the 1950s.
* What?! [[Insane Clown Posse|ICP]] are releasing a "second deck" of the Joker's Cards in order to expand upon the obscure mythology of the Dark Carnival?! Ruined FOREVER.
** They used surf rock guitars in "The Bone"!? They've sold out and are now ruined FOREVER!
* ''[[Dragon Force (video game)]]'''s replacement vocalist Marc Hudson has caused some fans to complain about how he sounds different to ZP and claim he won't be able to do the old songs as well.
* ''[[Morbid Angel]]'''s newest album ''Illud Divinum Insanus'' has elicited many fan complaints thanks to a [[Nu-metal]] sound and what many fans will consider almost embarrassingly bad lyrics. Some have even gone so far as to describe it as Morbid Angel's [[Metallica|St. Anger]].
* Oh no! Geri Halliwell has left the [[Spice Girls]] and the rest of the group have to carry on their tour without her! The group is RUINED FOREVER!