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As a result, events in two different time periods are shown to happen concurrently, so that people two years in the past only have X minutes to stop the villain from committing some terrible act in the present, even though they should technically have X minutes ''plus two years'' to sort it all out. Or perhaps the heroes have [[Delayed Ripple Effect|only Y minutes]] to get to their time machine and prevent the villain from doing something thirty years ago, which obviously makes no sense either. (Whatever "our" next year may bring, there is little risk of its world suddenly having experienced a [[Godwin's Law of Time Travel|Nazi victory in 1945]].)
 
Alternately, characters traveling to some other time can't come back to the moment they left, but are somehow bound to return to a time, for example, eight minutes after they left if they were gone eight minutes. Can be justified, however, if time travel is of the "travel ''exactly'' X time forward/backward" variety. Or perhaps the characters just need to avoid [[Temporal Paradox|paradoxes]], but it's okay to [[Tricked -Out Time|Trick Out Time]].
 
Note that this is different from the [[Portal to The Past]], where a time portal links two eras and allows time on both sides to run at an equal rate, giving the impression that events are running concurrently. This is essentially a portal that sends you X amount of time forward/backwards in time. The main difference is that the [[Portal to The Past]] means that the time flow rate on both sides are the same due to both sides being essentially at rest relative to one another (i.e. because of relativity).
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[[San Dimas Time]] is often portrayed using [[Meanwhile in The Future]]. (That page, however, specifically focuses on scenes in which the two time periods do ''not'' affect one another.)
 
If the characters are in the past relative to the key events, they might avert this by taking [[The Slow Path]]. If they are in the future, they may ''[[Wrong Genre Savvy|think]]'' they can tell whether or not they [[Time Travel Tense Trouble|are going to have succeeded]] (by simply reading a newspaper or otherwise) — but perhaps somebody [[Tricked -Out Time]], or maybe there's going to be a [[Delayed Ripple Effect]] "after" the villain changed the past.
 
Note: Please don't duplicate entries between this trope, [[Meanwhile in The Future]], and [[Portal to The Past]].
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* In ''[[Sailor Moon Zodiac]]'' "episodes" 10 and 11, a botched attempt to have the modern Inner senshi quintet observe their past selves leads not only to this but also to a switch between past and present selves that marks the point where the "series" takes a [[Hotter and Sexier]] turn.
* The ''[[Doctor Who (TV)|Doctor Who]]'' usage of San Dimas Time (see below) is intentionally averted and discussed in ''Forever Janette'' by [[Richs Comix Blog|Rich Morris]], which features the Fifth Doctor meeting the Master from the Seventh Doctor's timeline.
 
 
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== Live Action TV ==
 
* In ''[[Doctor Who (TV)|Doctor Who]]'', whenever the Doctor meets another Time Lord, no matter how many trips to various eras each has made, they always seem to both remember past events in the same order. Official [[Universe Compendium|universe compendiums]] have confirmed the [[Fanon]] guess that all the TARDISes and everyone traveling in them run on Gallifrey Time, which usually works the same as [[San Dimas Time]], barring Timey-Wimey complications.
** Thus, if the Doctor experiences event A followed by event B, the Master must also experience event A followed by event B, though the number of years in between might differ considerably for the two. The same applies to the Doctor meeting earlier regenerations.
** In the [[Doctor Who Expanded Universe]], the BBC Books novel ''Emotional Chemistry'' maintains a continuous narrative crossing between three time periods, with four separate means of time travel, and only one point at which one of the characters is "out of sync" with the others.
** Subverted in "[[Doctor Who (TV)/NS/Recap/S4 E8 Silence in The Library|Silence in the Library]]"/"[[Doctor Who (TV)/NS/Recap/S4 E9 Forest of the Dead|Forest of the Dead]]" when the Doctor meets, for the first time, a woman who has known him for years. {{spoiler|It happened to be the last time ''she'' met ''him''; she dies shortly afterwards.}} All of her onscreen appearances since have been earlier and earlier in her personal timeline.
*** River Song is a strange type of ''[[Inverted Trope|Inversion]]'', in that she apparently routinely experiences events in the opposite order to The Doctor. (Sometimes they experience events in the same order; otherwise their tradition of comparing diaries would be pointless.) She is aware that the first time she meets The Doctor will be the last time he meets her, which (although it is a [[Foregone Conclusion]] for the audience) isn't really necessitated by anything she knows.
*** This same subversion had been done in the previous series, though on a smaller scale. Within their personal timeline, the Doctor and Martha are falling prey to Mr. Saxon's manipulations ''before'' they {{spoiler|travel to the end of the universe, release the Master and accidentally give him the means to go back in time and establish himself as Mr. Saxon on 21st century Earth.}}
*** Mel and the Sixth Doctor "first" met each other in a different order, too.
** In the story "[[Doctor Who (TV)/Recap/S11 E5 Planet of the Spiders|Planet of the Spiders]]", events take place on 20th Century earth and on a distant planet in the far future, with lots of time/space travel between the two by multiple methods, but somehow ''all'' the events happen "in story order" on screen, with no exceptions. The time zones might as well be places.
** In "[[Doctor Who (TV)/Recap/S9 E1 Day of the Daleks|Day of the Daleks]]", the Doctor attributes the "eight minutes in the past = eight minutes in the present" thing to the "[[Techno Babble|Blinovitch Limitation Effect]]". Mind you, that's his excuse for ''everything'' time-related.
** Interestingly, the few occasions when time-travelers do appear to be out of sync with each other there is generally non-Gallifreyan technology involved (Like Captain Jack's [[Time Agent]] wrist band).
** In the revived series, this trope is required to make the Doctor being the [[Last of His Kind]] meaningful. Otherwise, he could run into pre-Timewar Time Lords and Daleks.
*** Well, the entire point of a Time War would seem to be that there is no longer any such thing as a "pre-Timewar Time Lord or Dalek". The participants may remember a time where there was no Time War, but such a time [[Timey-Wimey Ball|no longer exists]]. {{spoiler|[[Doctor Who (TV)/NS/Recap/S4 E17 E18 The End of Time|The End of Time]] seems to support this: Time Lords still exist in the timeline, but they are all locked into [[Kill It With Fire|their fate]]. And it's a [[Neutral No Longer|good thing]]...}}
**** Except that the time before the time war can be reached if a malfunction similar to what happened in [[Doctor Who (TV)/NS/Recap/S2 E5 Rise of the Cybermen|Rise of the Cybermen]] were to happen, as seen in the [[New Series Adventures]] novel "Prisoner of the Daleks".
** In one [[Doctor Who Expanded Universe]] book, the villainess, a Time Lady, monologues (to the readers; she's alone in the room) that she ought to be going up against the (then-current) [[Chessmaster|Seventh Doctor]]. She then decides that he'd be too much for her, looks at all thirteen regenerations, and decides to pick on the Fifth instead, even though that's breaking the rules about meeting out of order. [[Beware the Nice Ones|He's still too much for her.]]
** Note that San Dimas Time is ''justified'' in "[[Doctor Who (TV)/Recap/S13 E3 Pyramids of Mars|Pyramids of Mars]]", when the Doctor has only a narrow window of opportunity to trap Sutekh in the spacetime tunnel. Even if he were to use the TARDIS to return to Earth at a point hours or weeks earlier, he'd only wind up waiting around for the few minutes when Sutekh is ''in'' the tunnel, and can therefore be trapped. The fact that he rushes to get it done immediately is more an indication of his excitement-level than fear of wasting precious San Dimas Time.
** The Doctor always has this situation when on an inter-temporal phone call for obvious reasons.
** Don't try to make sense of the events of "The Pandorica Opens" and "The Big Bang" without assuming that in the Doctor Who universe, time goes in two directions at once; while the TARDIS can go back and forth in linear time, there's clearly some sort of clock running in a different way, just so {{spoiler|The TARDIS exploding causing every star in the universe to simultaneously supernova at every point in time}} makes sense.
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