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** Unfortunately is one of the least successful financially because the poor quality of the previous few entries had turned people off the series.
* [[Hate Dumb]]: A TON. It's no secret that the ''Saw'' series is universally loathed by non-fans more often than not (see [[Complaining About Shows You Don't Watch]]), despite the overabundance of extremely violent action and horror films that have been produced now and in the past.
** The rants against the videogame adaptations are equally vexing. Beyond the legitimate complaints of the games themselves (which mostly fit under various elements of [[The Problem Withwith Licensed Games]]), some gamers fit the ''Saw'' games under a category of abysmal, industry killing titles reserved for games like ''E.T.'' As any reasonable gamer can prove, the existence of the ''Saw'' games don't threaten the industry's integrity anymore than any licensed title, nor has it been the most controversial title when it comes to on-screen gore (e.g., ''[[Grand Theft Auto]]'', ''[[Gears of War]]'', and ''[[Manhunt]]''), and yet, the games' reputation is as badly received as the movies.
* [[Ho Yay]]: Believe it or not, it's actually been suggested between Lawrence and Adam.
* [[Idiot Plot]]: Even people who've dealt with Jigsaw in the past turn into flailing idiots when the plot requires it of them.
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* [[Most Annoying Sound]]: ''Right now, you're feeling helpless.''
* [[Motive Decay]]: A potential glaring example in ''Saw 3D'' with {{spoiler|Bobby's final test}}, which flies straight in the face of John's philosophy by effectively {{spoiler|murdering Joyce through an impossible test}}.
* [[Nightmare Fuel]]: And how. See [[Saw (Film)/Nightmare Fuel|this page]] for examples.
* [[Replacement Scrappy]]: {{spoiler|Detective Hoffman}}
** [[Take That Scrappy]]: {{spoiler|The end of Saw 3D finally has him getting his just desserts}}.
** Gibson, good lord.
* [[Rooting for Thethe Empire]]: Two cases:
** First of course is Jigsaw as the main character of this [[Villain Based Franchise]] who fans started to get behind after awhile ala Freddy Kreuger, Jason, Michael Myers etc. His status as [[Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds]] wins him a lot of sympathy points, and his [[Affably Evil]] justifications for the things he does and people he does them to do at times have some merit.
** The second is more [[Your Mileage May Vary]] but quite a few people are getting behind {{spoiler|Hoffman}} because of {{spoiler|his}} actions in the 5th and 6th movies painting {{spoiler|him}} as a Badass [[Magnificent Bastard]] Determinator who improvises [[Xanatos Speed Chess]] on the fly whenever things start going bad for {{spoiler|him}}. Of course just as many if not more people think of {{spoiler|him}} as a [[Complete Monster]] and {{spoiler|are happy he got his final comeuppance in the finale.}}