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* [[Epileptic Trees]]: Mostly regarding the fate of Dr. Gordon. {{spoiler|Not that it matters as of ''Saw 3D''}}.
* [[Ensemble Darkhorse]]: Adam and Ryan, for being [[Deadpan Snarker|Deadpan Snarkers]] and [[Jerk with a Heart of Gold|being heroic despite their less than savory traits]].
** Eric Matthews after being [[Demoted to Extra]], and Strahm.
* [[Growing the Beard]]: ''Saw VI'' was considered a huge improvement over the previous two films by fans (and critics) alike.
** Unfortunately is one of the least successful financially because the poor quality of the previous few entries had turned people off the series.
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* [[It Was His Sled]]: At this point, it's nearly impossible to read anything about the series-- including this page-- without finding out that Jigsaw is John Kramer. (See?) The once-shocking twist is also naturally lost on anybody who watches the films out of order.
* [[Jerkass Woobie]]: Bobby Dagen in ''3D'', never more so than {{spoiler|when he fails his final test. It was bad enough seeing him lose all of his friends and co-workers; seeing him lose his wife -- in one of the franchise's most disturbing death scenes -- was just icing on the Woobie portion of the cake}}.
** Eric Matthews. He is a [[Dirty Cop]] and a jerk with a [[Hair Trigger Temper]], but his son has been kidnapped by a deranged [[Serial Killer]] who is mocking him, and he winds up kidnapped and left to die in the bathroom. Then he smashes his foot to find his son, who he doesn’t know is safe. Then he is stabbed repeatedly by Amanda, tortured, and becomes suicidal after he is out in another game, only to regain his will to live so that he may see his son again. And then he dies.
* Ryan. He is a jerk, but he deep down has some heroic qualities and even tried to save Anna, who was trying to kill him moments earlier.
* [[Les Yay]]: Well, kinda. Amanda and Lynn in ''Saw III'' had some serious tension between them in the movie. Amanda certainly looked like she enjoyed [[Too Kinky to Torture|Lynn shoving her up against a fence]].
* [[Magnificent Bastard]]: Jigsaw and Hoffman.
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* [[Moral Event Horizon]]: Chavez throwing Amanda into the pit of needles and forcing her to solve his test for him.
* [[Most Annoying Sound]]: ''Right now, you're feeling helpless.''
* [[Motive Decay]]: A potential glaring example in ''Saw 3D'' with {{spoiler|Bobby's final test}}, which flies straight in the face of John's philosophy by effectively {{spoiler|murdering Joyce through an impossible test}}.
* [[Nightmare Fuel]]: And how. See [[Saw/Nightmare Fuel|this page]] for examples.
* [[Replacement Scrappy]]: {{spoiler|Detective Hoffman}} to some.
** [[Take That, Scrappy!]]: {{spoiler|The end of Saw 3D finally has him getting his just desserts}}.
** Gibson, good lord.
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* [[Squick]]: Lots of it. Hell, every film in the franchise (following the first) is practically '''built on it.'''
* [[Straw Man Has a Point]]: Some fans feel this way about Jigsaw.
* [[Surprisingly Improved Sequel]]: ''Saw VI'' and ''Jigsaw''
* [[They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot]]: ''Saw 3D'' had two potential interesting plot points: what made {{spoiler|Dr. Gordon}} join Jigsaw and the Jigsaw survivor group. Both of them were pretty much ignored in favor of Bobby Dagen's storyline; the survivor's group goes nowhere and {{spoiler|Gordon's}} role amounts to little more than a cameo and doesn't tell us anything that the fans hadn't already guessed years ago. Tragically, both of these would have been explored further (the survivor group would have continued to carry on Jigsaw's work) but they were scrapped as a result of the final two movies being crammed into one.
** The seventh movie also begins with a new concept: A trap appearing ''in public'', where three victims are sealed behind bulletproof glass in front of a busy street. This would've been a very intriguing subplot (how does the crowd react, the societal impact, the added difficulty of setting these traps up without being discovered etc.) Sadly, it's never followed up on, and is hardly even mentioned after the first scene.
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