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== Video Games ==
* The day before Vincent's final climb, he wakes up to find [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VideoGame/Catherine?from=Main.[Catherine (Video Game)|Catherine]] in his bed and Katherine banging on his door. There's a tense scene between the three until the [[The Other Darrin|K/]] [[One Steve Limit|Catherine]]s start to fight. Katherine backs up to a sink, looking for a knife that Catherine already has. The two women fight and Catherine ends up getting stabbed before Vincent and Katherine are pulled into the dream world and have to climb to escape a monster {{spoiler|demon form of Catherine}}. At the top, Katherine [[Driven to Suicide|tries to throw herself off]] but Vincent saves her, and going through the top door....wakes him up. He realizes it was all a dream when Katherine shows up and he openly admits to her about Catherine in an attempt to explain the dream and she admits to having already known about Vincent's other woman.
* Maribel Han in the [[All There in the Manual]] material for ''[[Touhou]]'' has a dual existence in a grayer Earth and in Gensokyo. It's menitoned that she visits the rest of the cast often, however we have never seen her directly in Gensokyo. It is [[Wild Mass Guessing|speculated by some]] that she has a [[Reality Warper|different identity]] when dreaming.
* Zhuangzi's poem is the source of all the butterfly symbolism in the ''[[Persona (Video Game)|Persona]]'' games, as referenced by ''Megami Ibunroku Persona's'' intro. The remake even references this in the opening lyrics.
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== [[Real Life]] ==
* The Chinese philosopher [http://en.[wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhuangzi_dreamed_he_was_a_butterfly:Zhuangzi dreamed he was a butterfly#The_butterfly_dreamThe butterfly dream|Zhuangzi]] is the [[Trope Codifier]]. Zhuangzi, however, did not think reality could be a dream. He was not Buddhist, idealist, rationalist, or (ontological) dualist. The short anecdote actually finishes "Zhōu and the Butterfly, there must be distinction. This is the 'becoming of things'." 'Becoming of things', 物化 "wùhuà", can also translated as 'transubstantiation,' 'objectification,' or 'being.' The point is not that life might be a dream but that the distinction between dreamer and dream, thinker and thought, subject and object, the distinction itself is ontologically fundamental (a philosophy similar to Descartes' "I think therefore I am"). While early Daoists did not have the same concept of consciousness as Continental philosophers this is really closer to Phenomenology than the popular Buddhist/idealist interpretation used in this trope.
* This trope probably derives from a dream commonly experienced during the earliest stages of deep mourning. In the dream the dead person is still alive, and it's explicitly stated in the dream (either by the dreamer or the deceased) that the "mourning" the dreamer has just gone through was nothing but a bad nightmare. The dreamer then awakes and suffers extreme confusion. It's common enough that journal articles and even a book have been written about it.
* A fairly common one is [http://en.[wikipedia.org/wiki/False_awakening:False awakening|false awakening]] Which, if it happens enough, just gets annoying.
* The personality disorder called Solipsism has the person believing everything around them is a figment of their imagination or similar. Most of these people are entirely normal-seeming folk who will treat the people around them civilly despite them being "unreal".
** Solipsism is also both a philosophical belief and a common argument against empiricist and sceptic philosophy (we can only know what our senses tell us and what we experience, but since we are often mistaken, and our senses decieve us sometimes, maybe we can't). The idea is that if you doubt everything, then what is left is total uncertainty, a life which is near-impossible to lead and one which most people would find utterly pointless. Philosophical solipsism can be summed up as "My mind is something I know for sure exists, but as for anything or anybody else..."
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