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* [[Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy]]: Let's face it, the film is ''absurdly'' dark.
** Although Mills and Somerset remain sympathetic for almost the entirety of the movie.
* [[Fridge Logic]]: Doe has an obsessive hatred against "sinners", a grandiose sense of self-worth, and is a perverted sexual sadist. This makes him more guilty of Wrath, Pride and Lust than the victims of those sins. [[Justified Trope|But since he's clearly a nutjob]], this is probably a literal case of [[Insane Troll Logic]].
** More generally, though: it's been [[Gray Rain of Depression|raining in the city]] for nearly a week and it's implied the city gets a lot of rain. At the climax of the movie, our heroes head out of the city into the immediate environs... which are a flat desert that behaves as though it hasn't seen rain in months<ref>which, conveniently, is the geography [[California Doubling|closest and cheapest to Los Angeles]]</ref>. [[You Fail Geography Forever|Right, then.]]
*** Just say that area is in [[Hand Wave|A Major Rainshaow]]
** The victim of the Lust killing is not actually guilty of the crime of lust herself. Lapse into lazy writing and casual misogyny on the part of the screenwriter, or apt characterisation of John Doe as a woman-hater himself who ''of course'' would blame lust on the prostitute rather then the men she services? Your call, viewer.
*** You could argue that the john is the true intended victim, as now he'll have to live with that memory.
*** It's also possible that John Doe blamed Lust for enabling other people's sins.
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* [[Some Anvils Need to Be Dropped]]: {{spoiler|According to John Doe, part of his motivation}}.
* [[Unfortunate Implications]]: The only explicitly Jewish character in the film, the lawyer Eli Gould, is murdered because [[Greedy Jew|he is so greedy]]. That being said, it's not inconceivable that John Doe is anti-Semitic on top of everything else.
* [[WTH?What the Hell, Casting Agency?]]: Or in this case, WTH Promotions. David Fincher mentions in a commentary track that for reasons he cannot fathom, the people who went out looking for test audiences for the movie used ''[[Driving Miss Daisy]]'' and ''[[Legends of the Fall]]'' as examples of movies that Morgan Freeman and Brad Pitt, respectively, have been in. So naturally, most of the people in the audience were the kind of people who would watch films like ''[[Driving Miss Daisy]]'' and ''[[Legends of the Fall]]'', and not films like, well, ''[[Se7en]]''. Fincher said that after the movie got out, he was standing outside the theater, and three middle-aged women walked past him. As they did so, one said "Whoever made this movie should be shot."
 
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