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** Many of the ''mechanical'' RPG elements that are tropes/clichés today, were also created or popularized by D&D. The [[Class and Level System]], [[Hit Points]] (arguably present in the tabletop wargames that preceded D&D, but named and popularized by D&D nonetheless), [[Character Alignment]], the "+ 1 magic sword," and so on.
*** D&D is very likely the single most influential game '''ever''', in terms of what it started and popularized, stretching even outside of the RPG genre. Its influence on video games was enormous and not to be underestimated.
** Conversely, more tropes in [[High Fantasy]] ''novels'' work as [[Trope Codifier|codified]] in D&D, instead of as seen in Tolkien. You're more likely to see [[Magic Aa Is Magic A]] than Tolkien's deliberately mythical and mystical style, for instance.
* ''[[Magic: theThe Gathering]]'' single-handedly invented the [[Collectible Card Game]]. Games like ''Yu-Gi-Oh'' and ''Chaotic'' owe their very existence to a man named Garfield. Yet, because of those games, Magic is sometimes dismissed as a children's card game. This despite the fact that many big-time poker players began honing their skills on Magic, and a small but significant group of people make their livings out of tournament winnings and appearance fees.
** Magic's dismissal as a Kid's Game has less to do with successor [[TC Gs]] and more to do with the fact that the vast majority of its players started as kids.
* For ''[[Warhammer 40000]]'', their eponymous Space Marines are considered something of an unfunny by some of the fanbase. The Space Marines and their incarnations are arguably the most popular faction, and thus a lot of ire is directed at them from players of other armies. Reasons for Space Marine popularity include: the easy difficulty curve and relative forgiveness of the army book, the regularity with which the main codex is updated, being one of the 'more acceptable' armies for children to play, and in general receiving the bulk of support from Games Workshop. Thus it is that Space Marines can sometimes be considered an 'unfunny', 'scrub', or 'kiddie' army.