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The major danger of being a [[Periphery Demographic]] is the jarring effect when the story pulls a trope or situation that severely annoys or [[Squick|creeps you out]], either knocking you out of [[Willing Suspension of Disbelief|the lull]] or simply reminding you that the major target [[Demographics]] probably doesn't include you. Meanwhile, this does not seem to bother the other demographic in the least, much to your confusion.
 
Sometimes it's just that the other fan segment is too old or too young to pick up on specific themes, or are simply so used to such devices that it doesn't bother these '[[Pandering to Thethe Base|veterans]]'. Maybe the wish-fulfillment aspect of the series is just very specific and you're [[Fridge Logic|overthinking it]] to [[Nightmare Fuel|creepier conclusions]].
 
Whatever the reason, be careful if you're new to the genre, because whining about it on the Internet can earn you a sharp dismissal for complaining about a show that's not really ''for'' you. This is not to say being a side-fandom is bad, just that it often requires you to take things with a slightly bigger grain of salt.
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* This is part of the reason why a very vocal female ''[[Star Control]] II'' fan created the [http://zarla.livejournal.com/192372.html Secret Theater]. If you can have virtual sex with the gorgeous, humanoid, initially strictly platonic (or so she pretends) [[Hot Amazon|Commander]] [[Green-Skinned Space Babe|Talana]], why can't you do the same with [[Naughty Tentacles|Admiral]] [[Ho Yay|ZEX]], who's not attractive by most human standards but is smitten with you ''immediately''? Or, put another way: Talana [[Squick|Squicks]] almost no one, unless you consider the [[Unfortunate Implications]] that she may be sleeping with the captain because he is able to save her people; ZEX is a [[Squick]] factory to most fans but a [[Perverse Sexual Lust|trans-human lust object]] to others.
* ''[[Gravitation]]'''s fantastic soundtrack attracted a lot of fans who'd rather you didn't mention the [[Boys Love|gay]].
* The (90% female) Western fandom for ''[[XXX HolicXxxHolic]]'' is known to complain about the manga's focus on [[Girl of the Week|female characters]] and the relative lack of focus on the subtext between the male leads, though this becomes rather silly once you realize that in Japan the series is classified as [[Seinen]] -- as in, targeted at young men -- so of ''course'' the focus will be on girls and much less on the subtext between the males.
* Similarly, the wave of [[Periphery Demographic]] [[Yaoi Fangirl|Yaoi Fangirls]] who joined the ''[[Mobile Suit Gundam]]'' fandom in ''[[Gundam Wing]]'' have an [[Die for Our Ship|intense dislike for Relena and similar characters who "get in the way"]] of the [[Slash Fic|slash]].
* "[[Axis Powers Hetalia|Having people who are countries: okay. Having them be gay? TOO MUCH]]!"
* ''[[Cardcaptor Sakura (Manga)|Cardcaptor Sakura]]'' was mostly okay on the [[Ho Yay|rel]][[Schoolgirl Lesbians|at]][[Toy Ship|ion]][[Interspecies Romance|ships]] until you get to the adult teacher who gets engaged to his third grade student, and this is viewed as healthy.
** This is [[CLAMP]]. Love is love ''in pretty much any way'', according to them.
* ''[[Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha]]'':
** Any viewer who was attracted to its [[Les Yay]], characters, [[Action Girl|Action Girls]], different approach to the [[Magical Girl]] theme, and/or status as the [[Humongous Mecha]] genre's adopted sister, will first have to go through a trial by [[Lolicon]] [[Fan Service]] in Season 1, which had the original sales pitch of starring the [[Token Mini-Moe]] of the hentai game ''[[Triangle Heart 3 Sweet~sweet Songssongs Foreverforever~]]'', and [[Lingerie Scene|it]] [[Hot Springs Episode|really]] [[Transformation Sequence|showed]].
** Inversely, anyone who ''liked'' the loli appeal will be VERY angry when they get to StrikerS, which comes after a time skip (after yet another time skip at the end of the previous series) that makes the girls adults. Not even teens, adults. At least new lolis were introduced.
* [[Kaori Yuki (Creator)|Kaori Yuki]] may very well be the queen of [[Author Appeal]]. We learn through her different series and short stories about her appreciation for [[Attractive Bent Gender|tomboys, cross dressers]], [[Bishonen|androgynous men]], nicely endowed women, [[Shotacon|underage boys]], and BDSM. The one thing she's said she thinks is disturbing is [[Lolicon]]. Her Lolicon characters so far have been portrayed as [[Dirty Old Man|fat, old perverts]], creepy [[Otaku]], and a college student who [[Attempted Rape|attempts rape]].
* ''[[A Dance With Rogues]]'', the ''[[Neverwinter Nights]]'' module. As the page on this wiki says, it's both [[Darker and Edgier]] and [[Hotter and Sexier]]. It's also very well made, being the mature rather than silly kind of [[Darker and Edgier]] (except where that overlaps with the other thing). So you can play it plausibly as an unusually poignant and immersive role-playing experience where you get to experience, not being a generic, powerful game protagonist who's guaranteed to beat any aggressor of your own level, but a lone woman in a dangerous and sexist environment where, initially, even walking the streets is threatening. But then you may find you're not the intended audience after all, because the module likes to feast with sexual situations you may be forced into (not if you're really being molested, presumably because not even the author would like that), and apparently thinks that when you're being harassed at every turn, you'll definitely want your armour to be totally [[Stripperific]].
* Google "Watchmen" and "Blue Penis" or some synonym thereof. People went nuts over the non-sexual display of Doc Manhattan's nudity. [[Most Writers Are Male|Most comic fans are male]], or that's at least the usual assumption. Combine that with pre-existing film [[Male Gaze|nudity double standards]]... Note that a lot of it comes from Doctor Manhattan having a much larger penis in the film than the deliberately understated equipment shown in the graphic novel.
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* Some parody this by adopting an exaggerated [[Have I Mentioned I Am Heterosexual Today?]] stance.
* The Shumacher Batman movies: The fans threw fits about the Bat-nipple suits, but "nobody" complains about the catsuit. Well, it doesn't have nipples.
* ''[[Twilight (Literaturenovel)|Twilight]]''. Some people are creeped out because [[Older Than They Look|Edward's 100]], some people don't like the [[Crazy Jealous Guy|abusive undertones]], some people don't like that S. Meyer claims to be a feminist when Bella does nothing proactive, and [[Bread, Eggs, Milk, Squick|some people put pictures of Edward on the ceiling above their bed]].
* The Buffy/Angel relationship in the early seasons of ''[[Buffy the Vampire Slayer]]'' was creepy for the same reasons as the Bella/Edward relationship in ''Twilight'' . He's obviously a lot older and more experienced than she is, and-unlike Edward- has also tortured and raped a number of women (albeit in his soulless form) . Pretending to be divided on the subject on the morality of about the matter seems a little manipulative and creepy, since he's the one who has had centuries to practice relationships. Also, the whole tortured-soul-who-needs-to-be-rescued-by-romance-and-sex seems like too good way to get naive girls into bed. The old "Anne Rice Routine", as another character described it in-universe.
* As noted on the [[Double Standard Rape (Female Onon Female)]] page, a popular [[Double Standard]] is the idea that the rape of a woman by another woman is not "real" rape, and so it becomes [[Selective Squick]]. Women don't have penises to rape with so it "doesn't count", so regardless of how one might feel about rape scenes in general, female-on-female rape is the exception.
* For many people, horrific violence at a young age is just fine, but sex is not. For instance, in the setting of Naruto, 12 year olds have to deal with potentially life threatening missions, and can participate in an exam that involves a survival test where people are expected to die (by participants killing each other), followed by a tournament where more people may die. And on passing said exam they'll have to take responsibility for their teammates' lives. Lots of fanfic writers don't seem to find any issue with writing about that, but balk at the idea of the characters having consensual sex (sometimes explicitly made clear in the author's comments) and resort to reaching the timeskip as quickly as possible, or just inexplicably bumping the characters in age.
* This also happens in [[Real Life]]: It is remarkable how many men can be [[Squick|squicked out of]] [[Brain Bleach|their minds]] by merely mentioning that something resembles a penis (state of arousal not important) or mentioning the word "menstruation" with no gory details given at all. What makes it even more amusing is that they often get much more annoyed than a woman would ever get from similar remarks made by a guy about women.
* [[Foreign Queasine]] in general - Some foods that are commonplace or only slightly unusual in one culture can be repulsive members of another. For example, ''[[Iron Chef]]'' fans on both sides of the Pacific can name examples from the various versions of the show.
* [[Naruto Veangance Revelaitons (Fanfic)|Naruto Veangance Revelaitons]] has this evident on ''the author's'' part. The author finds many heterosexual and lesbiam sex acts hot, such as those involving drinking breast milk, urinating, defecating, farting, genital mutilation and even rape, while he's disgusted by two men merely kissing.
* [http://notalwaysright.com/mommy-more-melee/18433 This] [[Not Always Right]] post.