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* [[Accidental Innuendo]]: Jack Frost's [[Verbal Tic]] of "Hee-ho!" often comes in the form of ending a sentence with "ho!". Meaning he keeps calling people whores, much to the amusement of players. It's gone on for so long that it's probably no longer accidental at this point.
* [[Broken Base]] - Alignments. Game of choice. There's a ''lot'' to argue over.▼
* [[Adaptation Displacement]]: ''Shin Megami Tensei'' spun-off from the original ''Megami Tensei'', which was based on the ''[[Digital Devil Story]]'' series of books.
* [[Crowning Moment of Awesome]] - [[Shin Megami Tensei (Franchise)/Awesome|Go check]].▼
* [[Crosses the Line Twice]]: Many things, but Mara stands out. A [[Gag Penis]] in a golden chariot is one thing. However, the games have made a habit of spewing out puns whenever Mara's around. And then there are the times where Mara's stats contain puns...
▲* [[Crowning
* [[Draco in Leather Pants]] - There is ''nothing'' wrong with liking Chaos. Remember, though - that's the side that, while wanting to preserve Humanity, was the one to put the [[Moral Event Horizon|Z-Class]] [[Apocalypse How]] on the table and desires a Social Darwinst world with no restraint whatsoever. Just saying.▼
* [[Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy]]: Oddly enough, inverted. Many fans take issue if a ''Shin Megami Tensei'' game isn't dark enough, and they lose interest. The threshold for [[Tastes Like Diabetes]] can be fairly low.
** It really depends on the game rather than those two being the only options. Chaos is portrayed far more positively in Devil Summoner 2 {{spoiler|Lucifer and his manipulations aside}} and not every game wants a world of Social Darwinism. Not to mention the [[Sadistic Choice|choice is between a Z-Class or endless cycle of X-Class]] [[Apocalypse How]] till all of humanity's free will is taken away by [[God Is Evil|God]]. ▼
▲* [[Draco in Leather Pants]]
** If you were wondering what the above spoiler means, {{spoiler|it refers to the fact that Lucifer tricks a young man, trying to save his friend, into kick-starting the apocalypse. Just for Lucifer's amusement.}}▼
▲** It really depends on the game rather than those two being the only options. Chaos is portrayed far more positively in ''Devil Summoner 2'' {{spoiler|Lucifer and his manipulations aside}} and not every game wants a world of Social Darwinism. Not to mention the [[Sadistic Choice|choice is between a Z-Class or endless cycle of X-Class]] [[Apocalypse How]] till all of humanity's free will is taken away by [[God Is Evil|God]].
▲** If you were wondering what the above spoiler means,
* [[Fandom Berserk Button]]: Fans refer to the franchise as ''Megami Tensei'', so calling it ''Shin Megami Tensei'' will often get you corrected to the former.
* [[First Installment Wins]]: On two occasions:
* [[Ho Yay]] - Meet Persona. Hell, meet ''Nocturne''. If it's [[Mega Ten]], there's porn of it. Usually in this variety.▼
** While the original two games certainly haven't aged well in terms of gameplay, the plot and tone of the games are generally well respected among fans. While all of the later games would have at least a vocal minority dislike the plot, the only common debate concerning these two is which one is better, and opinions that either plot is bad are very rare.
* [[MST3K Mantra]] - Satan is based on the Jewish view of Satan, the [[Quirky Miniboss Squad]] has the Catholic Uriel and Raphael, and {{spoiler|only a few people will be allowed into the Millennium Kingdom}} in [[Shin Megami Tensei II]], which mirrors (the Hollywood version of) Jehovah's Witness teachings. Note that Thor, Narukami and various other thunder gods [[All Myths Are True|co-exist]] and move on.▼
** ''Nocturne'', the first mainline game to get localized, is beloved among Western fans and generally held up as one of the best games in the franchise.
* [[Paranoia Fuel]]: An integral part of many of the [[Persona]] games.▼
* [[Friendly Fandoms]]: There's a good amount of fandom overlap with ''[[Fire Emblem]]'' for their tough as nails, yet satisfying gameplay and simple yet dark stories. This was helped further after the announcement of the crossover between the two series. And even after the back-draft that resulted from the full reveal of the crossover game, the friendliness between the fanbases endured, perhaps even stronger than ever.
* [[The Scrappy]]: A LOT of fans hate whoever is on the side of Law in each game that has a Law-Neutral-Chaos axis, such as the Messians in ''[[Shin Megami Tensei I]]'' and ''[[Shin Megami Tensei II|II]]'', Amane in ''[[Devil Survivor (Video Game)|Devil Survivor]]'', and {{spoiler|Zelenin and the Three Wise Men}} in ''[[Strange Journey]]''. You'll see a lot of people rooting for Neutral and Chaos, and rarely anyone who likes Law. For that matter, [[Internet Backdraft|forget about saying that you like Law.]]▼
▲* [[Ho Yay]]
* [[Sequel Displacement]] - Before [[Shin Megami Tensei]], there were two games for the Famicom called Megami Tensei (the first was adapted from the first novel of the ''Digital Devil Story'' series of novels). Few outside of Japan have heard of them, and even in Japan the number of gamers who came of age during the 90s and 00s who've actually played those games (or read the novel) are increasingly few in number.▼
* [[Memetic Mutation]]: "Shin Megami Tensei NINE is a psychological horror game about a guy who gets attacked by a giant angry scrotum at a [[Taylor Swift]] concert, and then spends several months facing horrific hallucinations from the resulting PTSD". A bizarre copypasta, which references the fact that, thanks to being Japan-only and being released only on XBOX and therefore having poor sales, SMT Nine is basically an enigma for the english fanbase and could be anything.
** ''[[Shin Megami Tensei III Nocturne (Video Game)|Shin Megami Tensei III Nocturne]]'' was not the first game released with the ''Shin Megami Tensei'' supertitle in the west. The largely forgotten Demi Kids games also had it (in small text) and predate Nocturne's release in the west by a year.▼
▲* [[MST3K Mantra]]
* [[My Real Daddy]]: Kazuma Kaneko and his artwork. The series just wouldn't have been the same without it. The series actually received some fire for the announcement that Masayuki Doi, who has done art/coloring/other work for Atlus games would be doing character art. Several Sentai plus other artists would be doing new demon art for ''[[Shin Megami Tensei IV]]''.
* [[Never Live It Down]]: The series has the reputation as the game where you kill God, when the truth is only a handful of games did that.
▲* [[Paranoia Fuel]]: An integral part of many of the ''[[Persona]]'' games.
▲* [[The Scrappy]]: A LOT of fans hate whoever is on the side of Law in each game that has a Law-Neutral-Chaos axis, such as the Messians in ''[[Shin Megami Tensei I]]'' and ''[[Shin Megami Tensei II|II]]'', Amane in ''[[
* [[Sequel Displacement]]: The series is called ''Shin Megami Tensei'', ignoring the first two games (''Digital Devil Story: Megami Tensei'' and ''Digital Devil Story: Megami Tensei II'').
▲*
▲** ''[[Shin Megami Tensei III
* [[That One Attack]]: Any spell with the "Megido-" prefix. It must mean [[Nintendo Hard|"fuck your life"]] in some other language.
** [
** This extends to any Almighty attack, really (the Megido are the main spells but not the only ones).
** ''Devil Survivor'' takes it [[Up to Eleven]] by adding the -dyne suffix. As if Megidolaon wasn't bad enough,
*** Then others like ''Strange Journey'' throws fuel on the fire by planting new spells in that are of the same type. Thought Megidolaon was awesome? Add in Big Bang which is even more powerful by a good 200 points. Then we have Babylon Goblet which has a chance to charm. Good luck recovering from that. And god forbid you get the eponymous JIHAD because not only is it one of the strongest spells in the game, but it also LOWERS THEIR STATS TOO. But to be fair while you have those, you can bet your opponent has even better shit than you.
* [[That One Boss]]: [["Wake
* [[Uncanny Valley]]
** This was noticeably absent in ''[[
*** Both of those series had different character designers for the human characters, while keeping Kazuma Kaneko's demon/persona designs. Kaneko is responsible for the human character designs in all the main series ''Shin Megami Tensei'' games, as well as
* [[Ugly Cute]]: Some of the demons that aren't [[Our Monsters Are Different|mind-bogglingly strange]] or [[Stripperific]] demon babes could arguably qualify. Decarabia and Yatsufusa are some examples.
* [[Values Dissonance]]
** ''Nocturne'' even got an A in Japan, which basically means suitable for everyone. Note that this game is considerably more difficult than the already difficult ''[[Digital Devil Saga]]'' and ''Persona'' sub-series, you get turned into a demon by having a snake-like parasite get ''dropped into your eye'' '''in first-person perspective''' and
** Many speculate that the only reason many of the
* [[Visual Effects of Awesome]]
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