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* [[Inverted Trope|Inverted]] in ''[[Lucky Star]]''. Tsukasa tells Kagami it's good she's older, because it would be bad for an older sister to need so much help with schoolwork from the younger. Kagami tells her [[Boke and Tsukkomi Routine|it's bad anyway]].
* Despite being twins, Unsui of ''[[Eyeshield 21]]'' is referred to as the "elder brother" quite often. Of course, it's partially because he acts the part, often taking responsibility for his "younger brother's" actions, despite the fact that they're the same age. Agon could be seen as an extreme (and violent) version of the [[Annoying Younger Sibling]] trope.
* In ''[[Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha]]'', the Numbers cyborgs type numbers do not represent their actual birth order; Sette (Type VII), is the youngest of them, while Dieci (Type X) is older than several others. As a result, Quattro (Type IV) is annoyed that Cinque (Type V) being technically older due to being born first, and refers to her as she would a younger sibling. In ''[[Sound Stage X]]'' and ''[[
* Vash and Knives' screwed-up relationship in [[Trigun]] contains shades of this. Since no one was actually watching when they were born and their mother couldn't talk even if she hadn't apparently suffered [[Death
** Their arguments about whether to kill off the human race etc. all boil down partly to a debate about which twin has more authority over the other. Being psychotic and incapable of self-doubt has given Knives [[Knight Templar Big Brother|the more forceful personality]], but Vash is at bottom tougher. It never actually is settled; {{spoiler|even after Vash wins the clash of philosophies and Knives accepts his loss, he takes up a 'watching over you' role while he waits to die that [[Big Brother Instinct|suits an elder brother better]].}}
** Anime Knives is pretty definitely finagling the elder role from the start, though, although they do still use 'kyoudai.' Vash even seems to have accepted his authority for a couple of years after the Fall, before flipping out that Knives is still on his [[Kill All Humans]] kick, shooting him in the leg, and running like hell. This has led to a split understanding in the fanbase.
* Liza and Tate from the ''[[Pokémon (
== Films ==
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* Variant: the French musical ''Les Demoiselles de Rochefort'' has the younger twin calling the other "old girl," leading the other to reply:
{{quote| '''Solange:''' Just because I was born fifteen minutes earlier doesn't mean you can call me "old girl!"}}
* The seniority of rank example also occurs in the 1964 film ''[[Zulu]]'', between Lieutenant Chard and Lieutenant Bromhead. This [[Wild Mass Guessing|might have been]] the origin for the ''[[Star Trek: Voyager|Voyager]]'' example.
* Variation: A deleted scene from ''[[The Boondock Saints]]'' includes the main characters trying to get their mother to tell them which of them is older, presumably so they will then be able to use this trope. Eventually she tells them, "The one with the bigger cock!"
* Widget and Sludge in the 2009 ''[[Astro Boy (
{{quote| "By ninety seconds!"}}
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== Live Action TV ==
* Zack is ten minutes older than Cody in ''[[The Suite Life of Zack and Cody]]'', and he has no problems making sure his brother remembers that fact.
* A rare non-sibling example found in ''[[Star Trek: Voyager]]'': Paris tried to order Torres to do something. Torres refuses on the grounds that they're the same rank, so Paris plays the seniority card. Torres immediately points out that he only has about a week over her.
** In real life, seniority is serious business. My department had to lay off two people, and one day of seniority was going to determine who stayed. (In the end, it was averted by the ''most'' senior employee taking early retirement instead.)
* Data and Lore in ''[[Star Trek:
* And a rare non-twin example: On ''[[Soap]]'', there is an exchange between Jessica and Mary where they're trying to decide which one is the older sister. They definitely remember that they're a year apart, but each one seems to think that they're the younger one. (Remember, they're at a point in their lives where younger is better -- both of them are grandmothers by the end of the show's run.)
* On ''[[All Together Now]]'', Anna comments on how she is fifteen minutes older than Thomas and wonders if she kicked him in the head on the way out.
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* Yuri and Chelink in ''[[Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles]]: Ring of Fates'' have this argument constantly, with Chelinka insisting that Meeth told her she's a couple minutes older.
* In ''Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin'', Stella is older than Loretta and tends to take on a larger share of authority and responsibility. At the end of the game, {{spoiler|while Stella tells her father that it was an older sister's duty to bear the responsibility, he tells her not to overdo her role before passing on. When Stella collapses sobbing, Loretta tells her that she will become stronger so she can take more of the burden and Stella will not have to suffer as much}}.
* In ''[[The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time]]'', Koume and Kotake have a moment within an argument, compounded by the fact that one of them misrepresents her own age ''to her own twin''.
* In ''[[No More Heroes]]'', we find out that {{spoiler|Travis and Henry are twin brothers}}; however, it is not discussed until the sequel (in an overly long answering machine message) that {{spoiler|Henry}} is supposedly the older twin, something {{spoiler|Travis}} is quick to make a snarky remark on:
{{quote| {{spoiler|Travis}}: Big brother? How do you know I didn't pop out first?<br />
{{spoiler|Henry}}: [[The Tape Knew You Would Say That|You're prob'ly spoutin' off about which one of us popped out first]]. }}
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{{quote| '''Gemini:''' Four minutes, four years, the point is I am the older brother and she never respected that!}}
* Scooter and his sister Skeeter arguing above, over who gets filmed by a camera the kids are playing with in ''[[Muppet Babies]]''.
* ''[[Batman:
* In ''[[The Powerpuff Girls]]'', Blossom always takes charges and generally acts older than her sisters, Buttercup has typically the behaviour of the somewhat overlooked middle-child, and Bubbles acts like the baby of the three. In spite of the fact that there is no age-gap between them at all.
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