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== Silent Hill 2 is actually based on Blue Velvet and Lost Highway. ==
In [[Blue Velvet]], Kyle [[Mc Lachlan]] ducks in a closet and watches Dennis Hopper rape Isabella Rossellini. He's then drawn into a sordid world of sex and violence, and Dennis Hopper (who, in his own words, will "f*** anything that moves") beats him half to death and possibly rapes him.
In [[Lost Highway]], Bill Pullman finds a video tape on his doorstep that shows him killing his wife. To escape what he's done, he uses the infinite magics from beyond time and night to transform himself into Balthazar Getty. Once he becomes Balthazar Getty, he meets a woman who looks just like his dead wife and starts sleeping with her.
Silent Hill 2 is probably the closest thing to a video game written and directed by David Lynch you'll ever play.
* This troper find this theory interesting, but disagrees with [[Deadly Premonition|that]] [[Killer 7Killer7|last]] [[Suda 51|sentence.]]
 
 
== Alessa and Mira the Dog are the same person! ==
Think about it. Alessa created the Otherworld, and Mira is shown to have total control over it. How can this be unless they're connected? Eddie killed a dog that belonged to one of his tormenters, and Mira is implied in [[SH 2]]SH2's Dog Ending to be the very same dog he killed, meaning that Mira is a ghost haunting and controlling Silent Hill. Seeing the dots connect yet? Only one thing could've allowed this to happen: If Mira was a psychic like Alessa, whom the Otherworld accepted as its master.
 
You see, when Alessa's soul was split, it actually divided into three fragments: Alessa, Cheryl, and her furry side, Mira. Just look at his best friend: Claudia WOLF? Ahem? She clearly drew her fursona and everything, judging by the "wolf" drawing in Midwich Elementary. This is indeed the very reason Dahlia burned her.
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== Pyramid Head doesn't just represent James' latent guilt, he ''is'' James, post the "In Water" ending via the [[Timey-Wimey Ball]]. ==
* And the second Pyramid Head is Eddie, right?
** No. Trick mirrors.
* Nice knowing that I'm not the only one who believes this.
*** How about more of an in-depth explanation? If you notice that whenever you fight Pyramid Head in the game and he thrusts his big sword or spear at you, he will make the same grunt that James makes whenever he gets hit by a monster. Perhaps it's just laziness on Konami's part and they couldn't find a random person to provide vocals for PH so they recycled James' voice actor's grunts and used them, but even that too would be a bit of a stretch. Why bother making PH sound like James? Everyone seems to agree that Pyramid Head is a part of the protagonist of [[SH 2]]SH2. IF the In Water ending happens then James doesn't get a chance to really 'go on' with his life as Mary had wished and he's doomed himself to Silent Hill purgatory for a while. Pyramid Head walks as if he's carrying a heavy burden and it's his job to deal out sentences to the guilty. It's only fitting that this is what James becomes if he fails to see the point of his whole trip and selfishly takes his life instead. Like James, Pyramid Head is not a villain, but merely a misunderstood character whose actions are not entirely laden with ill intent after the whole story is revealed. It seems his intentions throughout the game were ultimately good in the end. He had to break James' delusion and make him see the truth before it is too late. Maria was a distraction for James and the one thing preventing him from being able to own up to what he did to his wife. So one can conclude: James, although he smothered his sick wife with a pillow, is still at the core of his being a good man who is a victim of circumstance caused by not being able to handle the pain and the stress from seeing his wife deteriorate before his eyes. His need to find his wife and concern for the other characters indicate he is not an entirely bad person. And Pyramid Head was born from James' need to correct his wrong and the only part of James that knows the truth. James is also able to wield the Great Knife after finding it. Perhaps this is PH's way of reminding James of what he could become. But back to the In Water ending if it's the ending you want to believe. It would actually explain a lot as to why Pyramid Head seems bigger in size in the Arcade game and Silent Hill Homecoming. He is James Sunderland with all of the guilt of his actions realized and now a permanent apparatus of Silent Hill as opposed to being a tool from his own mind that the town exploited to "help" him.
**** Interesting, and certainly plausible, but in all seriousness, what about the second Pyramid Head?
 
***** Not the OP, but I have an idea. The second Pyramid Head is also James, but from a different ending. This is possible since the "Leave" ending is the only one where he actually moves on with his life.
 
 
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Silent Hill 5 is going to be about Laura coming back to Silent Hill...
** [[Jossed]]; [[Silent Hill Homecoming|Silent Hill 5]] has nothing at all to do with Silent Hill 2 -- not counting the appearance of Pyramid Head, since he was based off of [[Silent Hill (Filmfilm)|the movie version]] this time around -- unless Alex and Mary are somehow related. Then again, they ''do'' have the same last name (Shepherd, Mary's maiden name), so you never know.
 
== Laura is dead. ==
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There's also some tangential evidence that suggests that this version of Silent Hill is most a symbolic representation of James's mental landscape, with many of the newspaper clippings and other scraps of paper you encounter dealing with other murderers and mental patients, as well as the odd little detail in which, if/when you return to the area where you killed your first monster, it's surrounded by police tape. Eddie is also clearly well on the way to becoming a sociopath, and he's one of the first characters James encounters, as well as the only fully-human character James actually kills.
 
Overall, this WMG seems to make a lot of sense, especially if you're not too concerned about tying [[SH 2]]SH2 in with the other games in the series. I think the game works better as a standalone story set in the same universe as the other games but with a plot that's not actually related to them.
** I think you've hit on a lot of good points with the misogyny and fear of sexuality that seems to be present in the game, but I don't think that it's a fear of female sexuality, I think it's a fear of male heterosexuality...specifically, James' fear of his own sexuality. James is wracked with guilt and self-loathing after Mary's death. He can't get past the fact that he is a murderer, he's murdered his beloved wife. He sees himself as a predator, as something loathsome and disgusting. Therefore I think that all of the imagery of violence against women and sexual violence is a manifestation of his self-hatred and guilt being thrown back at him, saying "this is what you are" because he feels that he needs to be punished for what he did, continually reminded that he is a monster. I also think that he is dealing with the sexual frustration of having a recently departed wife. It seemed to me that Mary's illness was quite long, and, I think it was stated in the game, physically debilitating. We can safely assume that in the time that James was taking care of Mary, he wasn't getting any sex, and, considering the way that Mary treated him during that time, it isn't that much of a stretch to imagine that he might have entertained the thought of cheating on her. I think that at one point in the game Angela accuses James of wanting to be rid of Mary because he "wanted someone new" or something like that. He may have had these feelings, but would not act on them, and perhaps felt deeply ashamed of them. This I think is part of what Maria represents, as she is both appealing and repulsive to James. He might have, in his guilt and shame, seen his own sexual desire as dirty and a betrayal to Mary, who he also betrayed by killing. In conclusion, I don't think James is a budding serial killer, he just has issues.
 
== Angela's story is worse than you think. ==
 
While '''Silent Hill 2''' was in development "Repressed Memory Syndrome" was being debunked. Women had been convinced by their therapists that their fathers had molested them as children, but they had "repressed" the memory. The resulting false accusations were frequently believed, resulting in trials and incarceration. If this is what happened to Angela, if she murdered her father due to a false memory implanted by a therapist, then her killing him wasn't justified. Which would explain why she remained in Silent Hill.
 
Eddie stays because his killings weren't justified. James can leave after working through his guilt. Angela staying makes no sense if she had just cause for her action.
 
This would also explain her obsessive need to find her mother, who knows the truth, and be absolved by her.
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== The Abstract Daddys become easier after the boss fight because... ==
James' feelings that spawned the Abstract Daddys weren't as powerful as Angela's.
 
When you first see the Abstract Daddy, it's terrorizing Angela. It's ''Angela's'' monster. She created it in her mind, and it had a huge signifigance for her. The Abstract Daddy represents Angela's father as he allegedly raped her. The trauma from the memory was displaced into the monster, making it powerful. In the Boss fight, the Abstract Daddy was Angela's monster, and James just killed it for her.
 
After that scene, Angela accuses James of only wanting Sex from his wife Mary, and he denies it... but perhaps a small part of his mind wonders if it isn't true. Thus James's psyche--and own verison of Silent Hill--adopts the Abstract Daddy.
 
But the Abstract Daddy represents rape. James's feelings about rape--sex and power--are only a fantasy, while Angela experienced it firsthand. So, the monsters are stronger for Angela than they are for James.
** I like this theory, and I wouldn't be suprised to hear the developers use the same explanation. It's nice and self-contained, and doesn't conflict with established information. Of course, since its never said in-game, it'll always be just fan analysis and all, but it does offer some interesting backstory to what is otherwise just an example of [[Degraded Boss]].
 
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== Angela Orosco's mom was severely jealous of her. ==
It makes perfect sense when one just thinks on it for a while. Angela's unnamed mother hated her because her husband actually thought she was more attractive than her hence him having sex with her a whole lot or as Angela would have it "sexually abusing her" which is true. Instead of even lamenting the assault on her daughter's innocence like a normal mother would Angela's mom was jealous that her husband thought another woman was attactive. In her twisted perspective Angela's mom percieved her husband having sex with Angela as her husband sleeping with any other regular woman, she was too blinded by jealousy to see that her husband was violating her daughter. When Angela cried to her mother, her mother's warped perspective took it as "He's all over me, he thinks I'm so hot can you just calm him down a little" instead of a desperate plea for assistance. She could also see that Angela wanted help from her sex fiend brother and father but was too overwhelmed with jealousy rather than sloth to do anything. Angela's mom saw her as competition rather than her submissive daughter; and since she was clearly getting more attention than her own mother she couldn't try to talk down on her appearance so instead she makes an assault on Angela's emotions and her character with false criticisms. She as stated earlier noticed her husband thought Angela was very attractive and knew her husband and very likely her own son would be very angry if Angela's appearance was damaged in any way so she at least reframed from physically assualting her. As time went by Angela's mom was no longer able to deal with her overwhelming jealousy so she forsakes her family(an unfaithful husband, she really didn't care about the son her feelings towards him were neutral, and a so called "good for nothing bitch that took my man").
* That makes a lot of sense. It's not uncommon in cases where a daughter is being sexually abused by her father that the mother feels jealousy towards her own victimized, child. Even going so far as claiming it's the child that's tearing the family apart.
 
== The true ending to Silent Hill 2 is the UFO ending. ==
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Angela's case is probably the most tragic, because her problem is very simple. She wants what many abuse victims want: a chance at escape. She envisions her escape in the form of a man: someone who will love her and take care of her. But since the first man in her life who was supposed to love her and take care of her was the father who beat and raped her since she was a child, she views James (who is actually in a very good position to help her, and does, whenever he can) as just another broken promise waiting to happen, and rejects him to protect herself. Silent Hill repeatedly hands her James as a means of escape when things are at their worst (when she's contemplating suicide, when the Abstract Daddy comes to.. do something awful to her, when the stairs are burning down), but she just can't accept him, and so the only escape she can find is her own death.
** I agree with parts of this, but not all of it. For one thing, James hardly looks or acts outwardly badass, though you could argue he becomes so. What's more likely is that Eddie hates and sees James not as a badass, but as a smarmy, whimpering, condescending hypocrite ("Don't get all holy on me, James!") who lacks the balls to take what he wants, and looks down on him. As for Angela, James himself doesn't seem to think he's the best fit for her; notice his complete silence when she sarcastically asks him to "heal all her pain". By that point James is quite conscious of his moral track record, and the other characters seem to at least have a feeling about it.
 
== Angela ''did'' find her Mama. ==