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== Comic Books ==
* In [[DC Comics]], Superman once battled the Elite (a pastiche of [[The Authority]]) a pack of super-[[Anti-Hero|anti-heroes]] who routinely killed. It was the Elite's point-of-view that Superman's boy-scout kid-gloves morality was a weakness, and that defeating evil required being just as bad. During their final face-off, Superman appeared to be going all-out, slaughtering his way through the Elite on live TV. But it was a fake-out - he was merely knocking them out in creative ways, trying to illustrate how terrifying superpowered killers can be. Manchester Black, the leader of the Elite, maintained that Superman's idealism was nothing but a facade until his dying day. (When Black realized that Superman ''honestly and sincerely believed and lived up to his ideals'', it was more than Black could take and committed suicide.)
** In fact, the very idea of idealism apparently screwed Black up so much that he eventually ''came back'' and tried to destroy the entire world to ultimately prove his point, in a large-scale prequel to the Joker's attempted demonstrations in ''The Dark Knight''. Except with more [[Humans Are Bastardsthe Real Monsters]] and [[You Suck]] thrown in. In the DC Universe, enough cynicism apparently leads to evil on an epic scale.
* In one of Marvel Comic's ''[[Thunderbolts]]'' mini-series, Baron Zemo accidentally goes back in time and encounters many of his ancestors via time-jumps, one of whom is in young love with a lady that history says he's not destined to marry. Zemo tells them to their faces that they can dream because they are young, and that the harshness of reality will eventually make them adults.
** Of course he was right all along. He knew he would marry another after all.
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{{quote|'''Luke''': So, you got your reward and you're leaving? Is that it?
'''Han''': Well, when you say it that way, I sound like a douche. But yeah, that's what I'm doing. }}
* In ''[[The Dark Knight]]'', the entire film is essentially a battle of ideologies between [[Batman]] and [[The Joker]], with the Joker trying to prove to Batman that deep down, [[Humans Are Bastardsthe Real Monsters|everyone is just as]] [[Complete Monster|evil as he is.]] {{spoiler|[[Crowning Moment of Heartwarming|He's proven wrong.]]}}