So Long and Thanks For All the Gear: Difference between revisions

** However, you can give Beatrix one of the summoning items and cause it to be [[Lost Forever]].

* The ''[[Final Fantasy]] Legend'' games (actually ''[[SaGa]]'' games renamed for America) all featured temporary party members, but it was impossible to unequip them once equipped. Naturally, they would all take their equipment with them when they left.

** Although the trope can be inverted by taking equipment from the guests to use or sell.

* ''[[Final Fantasy Tactics]]'' zigzags this in one notable example. When {{spoiler|Gafgarion betrays your party}}, after the battle his gear is dumped back into your inventory, thus being a straight inversion in this case. However, you can make the fight against him ''laughably easy'' if you remove all his gear just before said battle, since without it he is ''hilariously useless''. Bonus points if you removed all of his abilities barring his default {{spoiler|Dark Sword}} skill set, which ''he can't use without the sword you just took from him'', thus reducing him to only using punches which, as everyone knows, are pathetically weak for any class besides a Monk. Sadly, he gets even better gear in his subsequent encounters, which obviously make them [[That One Boss|a lot harder]].

* Happens a couple times in ''[[Golden Sun]]'', though usually there's not too many negative effects. At the start of the first game, [[Guest Star Party Member|Jenna]] leaves permanently after the first dungeon, but there's practically nothing she can steal except her armor and some wimpy herbs.

** A very noticeable one happens in the second game, where Piers temporarily leaves your party to go to the cemetery. While he's gone, you don't fight any enemies, but there's one point where you need a special item to make a tightrope up to the top of a building. If Piers has the item, the man in the building lowers the rope, which is the ''only'' time in the game where the sprite for lowering a rope is used.

*** Not that there's any reason to give her much. She comes equipped with the best vendors have to offer at that point, and she can't use anyone else's weapons. Her stats are good enough that it might actually be in your best interest to take ''her'' stuff and give it to weaker party members before she leaves.

* Happens ''constantly'' in ''[[Phantasy Star IV]]'', because only the four main characters stay in the party the whole game; all the others join temporarily, and then return for the final battle when you have to pick one, except Alys {{spoiler|who dies}}. Hahn, Alys, Rune, and Raja can be un-equipped before they leave the party, and you can sell their stuff to help pay for better armor and weapons later on, but if you want to do that with Gryz, Demi, or Kyra, you have to be gutsy enough to go through a boss battle with them naked because they leave in the cutscenes following the victory.

 

* ''[[Final Fantasy Tactics]]'' subverts this; [[Guest Star Party Member|Guest Star Party Members]] leave their equipment. Due to a [[Good Bad Bug]], you can even take advantage of this fact when {{spoiler|Gafgarion}} pulls a [[Face Heel Turn]]; steal {{spoiler|his}} equipment, and you'll get the stolen copy PLUS the copy he leaves behind for leaving your team! Too bad if a character meets [[Final Death]], though...

* ''[[Fire Emblem]]'' has an odd example of this. Certain chapters have NPC allies, who are hated by players as occasionally they will kill an enemy that can drop a valuable or useful item, and if an NPC does this then that item is lost to you.

** In ''Radiant Dawn'', you play chapters where some characters might not be with you, causing some items to be temporarily lost as you switch between one party to another. In addition, you'll sometimes fight characters you used to control (and will again in the future), and the CPU loves to break your rare weapons during these periods.