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While "grinding" in the sense of "spending time gaining levels" is a given, one of the biggest pitfalls is ''pointless'' grinding, that is, making players perform pointless quests or waste their time doing things they don't want to do. Some possibilities include "Go bring me that item I could easily fetch myself" and "run around the map a few dozen times talking to NPC's who eventually send you back to me because I had the item / the answer all along". And, of course, [[Zero Punctuation|Yahtzee]]'s main gripe:
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