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Related to [[Values Dissonance]], [[Science Marches On]] and [[The Great Politics Mess Up]]. [[Eternal Prohibition]] and [[Everybody Smokes]] are specific cases.
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== [[Comic Books]] ==
* ''[[Camelot 3000]]'', written in the 1980s, had a still-segregated South Africa in the eponymous year, far outdoing 2001.
** It also has Sir Tristan's angsting about being reincarnated as a woman, even though her reborn lover Isolde seems quite content to contemplate a lesbian relationship, and gender-reassignment surgery is bound to be as routine as a tummy-tuck by that era even if she wasn't.
* The character history for the [[Post -Crisis]] Katherine "Kate" Kane, who would become [[Batwoman]], is that of a dedicated student at West Point who was expelled from the academy and forbidden to enter the army because of the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy. The policy itself, which forbade any confirmed homosexuals from serving in the US Military, was repealed by an act of congress in 2011, barely a year after her origin was given in ''[[Detective Comics]]''. The story was completely accurate at the time it was written, and will have leeway for several more years because it is a flashback that occurred several years in the past, but it can no longer be brought forward to the "present" when [[Comic Book Time|time "progresses"]].
 
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== Literature ==
* [[Arthur C. Clarke (Creator)]]'s ''Space Odyssey'' was pretty hilarious in this regard; alongside with [[The Great Politics Mess Up|a Soviet Union well into the 2000's]], Apartheid in South Africa continued into the 2030's, when it ended in a revolution that kicked the white ruling class out.
** Apartheid-related predictions were often a bit off in this way, due mostly to outsiders imagining some sort of centuries-long, deep-seated race war. Whereas it was a recent and quickly dated policy which was mostly prolonged because it somehow wound up as part of Cold War politics. As soon as the policy was put up to vote, everyone rejected it.
* Minor but interesting aversion in [[Philip Jose Farmer]]'s ''Dayworld'', in which several male characters have traditionally female names (Dorothy, for instance), some female characters have traditionally male names (e.g., Anthony), and circumcision is next to unknown in the United States.
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** ''[[The Caves of Steel (Literature)|The Caves of Steel]]'' and ''[[The Naked Sun (Literature)|The Naked Sun]]'' by [[Isaac Asimov]] both mention corporal punishment to children as a routine occurrence thousands of years in the future. Doesn't seem ''that'' likely now.
** Isaac Asimov's ''[[Foundation]]'' series has gender roles that are completely identical to the 1950s United States, at least in the early books.
** A great example: In the short story ''Feminine Intuition'', the designers of a subtly [[Fem BotFemBot|feminine-looking robot]] believe that everyone will assume it is mentally inferior to other robots. One character explicitly states that if there's ''anything'' the average person believes, it's that women are less intelligent than men. Upon saying this, he nervously glances around (Susan Calvin having recently retired). At the end, after Calvin comes back to save the day, the lesson is that men dismiss women's equal (if not superior) intelligence as mere "intuition."
*** And, of course, ''everyone'' smokes.
**** Though in the universe of ''[[The End of Eternity (Literature)|The End of Eternity]]'' (published in 1955), we see that the vast majority of the centuries in the future have non-tobacco-smoking cultures, and Twissel complains about how hard it is to find a good cigarette and a place where smoking is allowed.
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* ''[http://www.webscription.net/10.1125/Baen/0743436067/0743436067__17.htm Cocoon]'', a short story by [[Keith Laumer]], has everyone living in virtual reality tanks a couple hundred years in the future. The husband "goes" to a virtual office and does virtual paperwork, while the wife sits at "home", does virtual housework and watches virtual soap operas all day. When the husband comes "home", he complains because the wife hasn't gotten around to punching the selector buttons for the evening nutripaste meal yet.
* ''[[The Hitchhikers Guide to The Galaxy]]'' has several parts where social mores have not dated so well. One example is the alien from Betelgeuse who tries to pretend he's human, and English, by adopting what he thought was a very common name - [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Prefect Ford Prefect]. While probably funny back when the first radio serial was released, the fact that he's named after a car that hasn't been around for nearly half a century completely ruins the joke, and to date ''no'' adaptation has changed the name to something like "Ford Focus" or "Ford Fiesta". Another possible example is the claim that humans are "ape-descended life forms" that "are so amazingly primitive that they still think digital watches are a pretty neat idea". This was back when digital watches were fairly new but not totally ubiquitous, but reading it now, can you think of ''anybody'' in a developed world that is still that impressed with digital watches?
** The Quandary Phase of the radio series (based on ''[[The HitchhikersHitchhiker's Guide to The Galaxy (Franchise)/So Long And Thanks For All The Fish|So Long And Thanks For All The Fish]]'') alters it to "novelty cellphone ringtones ". This sets up a similar alteration later, where Ford hands cellphones with novelty ringtones out to a crowd. In the book, it was Sony Walkmen.
** Interestingly, when a comic book adaptation was being written (in the early '90s or so), Adams was approached about changing the line about "digital watches" to "cell phones", and he adamantly refused, insisting that the cartoonist was missing the point. So, what ''was'' the point? Well, um... er... ah! Cell phones are actually useful devices due to their mobility, while digital watches have no advantages over regular watches. So, Adams probably considered digital watches a pointless novelty while thinking that cell phones are actually useful. Uh, you know, probably.
** As shown in the television series, the watches he was talking about used power-consuming LED displays, and so you had to push a button to see the time. The joke is probably that Douglas Adams found those types of watches impractical.
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*** The franchise, naturally, retconned this in ''[[Star Trek Enterprise]]'', introducing Erika Hernandez, a no-nonsense woman who had previously served with Archer, as the captain of the second Warp 5 starship (''Columbia'' NX-02). Of course, in the 2000s, people were ready for that sort of thing.
** Notably, the original 1965 [[Pilot]] of the series included a ''female first officer'' (who even wore pants in lieu of a miniskirt). She capably commanded the Enterprise for most of the episode while the (male) captain was held captive by aliens. In fact, she was the one who dispassionately decided that letting the aliens breed humans for slavery would be unacceptable, when Captain Pike seemed willing to let it happen as part of a bargain to save the Enterprise. [[Number Two|Number One]] coldly threatened to blow everyone up -- including herself -- instead, and this was what finally convinced the aliens to abandon their plot and let everyone go. If only they let Roddenberry keep that character in the show, it would have been an ''amazing'' aversion of this trope... but [[Screwed By the Network|the network]] decided this unprecedented instance of gender equality would not go over well with the audience!
*** To be fair, they ''were'' right about that. Female test audiences of the time disliked the character, describing her as "pushy". And even then, they had Captain Pike make a (rather sexist) comment about how weird it was having a woman on the bridge. And there was some irritation among the executive meddlers that the role went to an unknown actress named Majel Barrett, for no other reason than that she was the [[DungeonmastersDungeonmaster's Girlfriend]].
*** Note that at the time, miniskirts were often regarded as a mark of ''female empowerment'', as it flaunted a woman's right to dress sexy if she felt like it.
**** Also, the miniskirts weren't executive meddling; Roddenberry had uniforms for the crewwomen made with pants, but the actresses complained so much, he dropped the idea. They ''wanted'' the miniskirts.
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