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=== Algorithm of Heel/Face Turning ===
 
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||'''Likelihood of turning Face'''|| '''Never''' || '''Highly unlikely''' || '''Who knows?''' || '''Quite probable''' || '''"I've seen the light."''' ||
||'''Score:'''|| '''1''' || '''2''' || '''3''' || '''4''' || '''5''' ||
||'''Species''' if there are others besides humans|| Inhuman: [[Eldritch Abomination]], Demons, [[The Fair Folk]] || Humanoid: [[Rubber Forehead Aliens]], human looking androids, some vampires || Humans, [[Human Aliens]] || Pretty: [[Green Skinned Space Babe]], elves || Rare and special: [[Last of His Kind]], [[Halfbreed]] ||
||'''Gender'''|| || Male || || [[High Heel Face Turn|Female]] || ||
||'''Age'''|| Older || Children such as [[Creepy Child]], [[Enfant Terrible]] || Middle Aged || Young Adult || Teenagers such as [[Troubled but Cute]], [[Broken Bird]], [[Dark Magical Girl]] ||
||'''Role'''|| Leader or the ''one'' [[Big Bad]], Faceless [[Mooks]] || Opportunists || Middle Ground, members of the [[Quirky Miniboss Squad]] || High ranking supporters of the [[Big Bad]], such as [[The Dragon]] || Freelancers such as [[Rival Turned Evil]], [[Arrogant Kung Fu Guy]] ||
||'''[[Beauty Equals Goodness|Aesthetics]]'''|| [[What Measure Is a Non Human|Monstrous]], [[Reptiles Are Abhorrent|Reptile-themed]] || One seriously creepy part: [[One Winged Angel]], [[Red Right Hand]], [[Glamour Failure]] || Plain looking, Genuinely ugly || [[The Beautiful Elite|Unnaturally Beautiful,]] [[Evil Is Sexy]] || [[Gorgeous Gorgon|Attractive]], [[Cute Monster Girl|Cute]], Pretty ||
||'''Motivation''' for doing evil|| [[Complete Monster]]: [[Evil Feels Good|Plain likes being evil]]: [[For the Evulz]] || [[Ambition Is Evil|Unscrupulous]] with [[Just Think of the Potential|some kind of goal:]] [[Corrupt Corporate Executive|Money]], [[For Science]], power || Hubris and Worldview: [[Nietzsche Wannabe]], [[Social Darwinist]], [[The Unfettered]] ''or'' sheer anger and despair: [[Woobie Destroyer of Worlds]], [[Rival Turned Evil]] || Means Well: [[Knight Templar]], [[Well Intentioned Extremist]] || Love and Loyalty: [[My Master Right or Wrong]], [[My Country Right or Wrong]], [[Well Done Son Guy]] or alternatively [[Forced Into Evil]] ||
||'''Characterization'''|| [[Flat Character]], [[Obviously Evil]], [[Card Carrying Villain]] || checking off the [[Seven Deadly Sins]], strange and erratic, plain nuts || [[Lawful Evil]], cold blooded || Possesses honor: [[Even Evil Has Standards]], [[Graceful Loser]], [[Worthy Opponent]], [[Noble Demon]] || Someone very lost and confused, [[Rounded Character]] ||
||'''Contentness''' with life in general and evil in particular || [[Evil Feels Good|Enjoying every minute]] || Doing well || [[Punch Clock Villain|Neutral]] || Life is hard || [[Being Evil Sucks|Angst, angst, angst...]] ||
||'''Morality of the story'''||[[Black and Gray Morality]] || [[Black and White Morality]] || [[Grey and Gray Morality]] || [[The Good the Bad And The Evil]] || [[Rousseau Was Right]] ||
||'''Idealism of the story'''|| Cynical || || || || Idealistic ||
 
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=== Algorithm of Face/Heel turning ===
||'''Likelihood of turning Face'''|| '''Never''' || '''Highly unlikely''' || '''Who knows?''' || '''Quite probable''' || '''"I've seen the light."''' ||
|-
||'''Score:'''|| '''1''' || '''2''' || '''3''' || '''4''' || '''5''' ||
|-
||'''Species''' if there are others besides humans|| Inhuman: [[Eldritch Abomination]], Demons, [[The Fair Folk]] || Humanoid: [[Rubber Forehead Aliens]], human looking androids, some vampires || Humans, [[Human Aliens]] || Pretty: [[Green -Skinned Space Babe]], elves || Rare and special: [[Last of His Kind]], [[Halfbreed]] ||
|-
||'''Gender'''|| || Male || || [[High Heel Face Turn|Female]] || ||
|-
||'''Age'''|| Older || Children such as [[Creepy Child]], [[Enfant Terrible]] || Middle Aged || Young Adult || Teenagers such as [[Troubled but Cute]], [[Broken Bird]], [[Dark Magical Girl]] ||
|-
||'''Role'''|| Leader or the ''one'' [[Big Bad]], Faceless [[Mooks]] || Opportunists || Middle Ground, members of the [[Quirky Miniboss Squad]] || High ranking supporters of the [[Big Bad]], such as [[The Dragon]] || Freelancers such as [[Rival Turned Evil]], [[Arrogant Kung Fu Guy]] ||
|-
||'''[[Beauty Equals Goodness|Aesthetics]]'''|| [[What Measure Is a Non -Human?|Monstrous]], [[Reptiles Are Abhorrent|Reptile-themed]] || One seriously creepy part: [[One -Winged Angel]], [[Red Right Hand]], [[Glamour Failure]] || Plain looking, Genuinely ugly || [[The Beautiful Elite|Unnaturally Beautiful,]] [[Evil Is Sexy]] || [[Gorgeous Gorgon|Attractive]], [[Cute Monster Girl|Cute]], Pretty ||
|-
||'''Motivation''' for doing evil|| [[Complete Monster]]: [[Evil Feels Good|Plain likes being evil]]: [[For the Evulz]] || [[Ambition Is Evil|Unscrupulous]] with [[Just Think of the Potential|some kind of goal:]] [[Corrupt Corporate Executive|Money]], [[For Science!]], power || Hubris and Worldview: [[Nietzsche Wannabe]], [[Social Darwinist]], [[The Unfettered]] ''or'' sheer anger and despair: [[Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds]], [[Rival Turned Evil]] || Means Well: [[Knight Templar]], [[Well -Intentioned Extremist]] || Love and Loyalty: [[My Master, Right or Wrong]], [[My Country, Right or Wrong]], [["Well Done, Son" Guy]] or alternatively [[Forced Into Evil]] ||
|-
||'''Characterization'''|| [[Flat Character]], [[Obviously Evil]], [[Card -Carrying Villain]] || checking off the [[Seven Deadly Sins]], strange and erratic, plain nuts || [[Lawful Evil]], cold blooded || Possesses honor: [[Even Evil Has Standards]], [[Graceful Loser]], [[Worthy Opponent]], [[Noble Demon]] || Someone very lost and confused, [[Rounded Character]] ||
|-
||'''Contentness''' with life in general and evil in particular || [[Evil Feels Good|Enjoying every minute]] || Doing well || [[Punch Clock Villain|Neutral]] || Life is hard || [[Being Evil Sucks|Angst, angst, angst...]] ||
|-
||'''Morality of the story'''||[[Black and Gray Morality]] || [[Black and White Morality]] || [[Grey and Gray Morality]] || [[The Good, the Bad, Andand The Evil]] || [[Rousseau Was Right]] ||
|-
||'''Idealism of the story'''|| Cynical || || || || Idealistic ||
|}
 
=== Algorithm of Face/Heel turning ===
 
{| class="wikitable"
 
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||'''Likelihood of turning Heel'''|| '''Never''' || '''Highly unlikely''' || '''Who knows?''' || '''Quite probable''' || '''"Muhahaha!"''' ||
|-
||'''Score:'''|| '''1''' || '''2''' || '''3''' || '''4''' || '''5''' ||
|-
||'''Species''' if there are others besides humans|| [[Superior Species]] ||Pleasant sapients: [[Green -Skinned Space Babe]], [[Friendly Neighbourhood Vampire]], [[Our Elves Are Better]] || Humans || Anything inhuman that looks creepy || Sentient technology: Cyborgs, [[Sentient AI Warning Signs|uncannily clever AI]] ||
|-
||'''Gender'''|| || Female || || Male || ||
|-
||'''Age'''|| [[Children Are Innocent]] || [[Older and Wiser]] || Middle Aged || Teenager || Young Adult ||
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||'''Role'''|| [[The Hero]] || Faceless soldier || [[True Companions]] || Freelancer || Second-in-command such as [[The Lancer]] ||
|-
||'''Aesthetics'''|| [[Beauty Equals Goodness|Cute, pretty or attractive]] || Dignified || Average || A bit predatory such as [[Eyes of Gold|yellow eyes]] or somewhat "gothic" such as [[Eerie Pale -Skinned Brunette]] || Attractively scarred, sexy and seductive or otherworldly such as [[White -Haired Pretty Boy|white hair]], [[Red Eyes, Take Warning|red eyes]] ||
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||'''Motivation''' for doing good|| [[Good Feels Good]], compassion || Love and loyalty || Worldview and honor such as [[The Fettered]], [[Defector From Decadence]] || Habit || Actually, why? [[Slave to PR|Or for]] [[Glory Seeker|the glory]] ||
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||'''Characterization'''|| Evil can't touch them: [[Incorruptible Pure Pureness]], [[The Messiah]], [[The Fool]] || Won't sink any lower than this: [[Anti -Hero]], [[Byronic Hero]] || Surly, bitter || Bordering on hubris: Hotheaded, arrogant, [[These Are Things Man Was Not Meant to Know|likes to play with dangerous stuff]] || [[Loners Are Freaks]] ||
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||'''Contentness''' with life in general and good in particular || [[Good Feels Good|Enjoying every minute]] || Doing well || Neutral || Life is hard || [[Being Good Sucks|Angst, angst, angst...]] ||
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||'''Morality of the story'''|| [[Rousseau Was Right]] || [[Black and White Morality]] || [[The Good, the Bad, Andand The Evil]] || [[Grey and Gray Morality]] || [[Black and Gray Morality]] ||
|-
||'''Cynicism of the story''' || Idealistic || || || || Cynical ||
|}
 
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||'''Likelihood of turning Heel'''|| '''Never''' || '''Highly unlikely''' || '''Who knows?''' || '''Quite probable''' || '''"Muhahaha!"''' ||
||'''Score:'''|| '''1''' || '''2''' || '''3''' || '''4''' || '''5''' ||
||'''Species''' if there are others besides humans|| [[Superior Species]] ||Pleasant sapients: [[Green Skinned Space Babe]], [[Friendly Neighbourhood Vampire]], [[Our Elves Are Better]] || Humans || Anything inhuman that looks creepy || Sentient technology: Cyborgs, [[Sentient AI Warning Signs|uncannily clever AI]] ||
||'''Gender'''|| || Female || || Male || ||
||'''Age'''|| [[Children Are Innocent]] || [[Older and Wiser]] || Middle Aged || Teenager || Young Adult ||
||'''Role'''|| [[The Hero]] || Faceless soldier || [[True Companions]] || Freelancer || Second-in-command such as [[The Lancer]] ||
||'''Aesthetics'''|| [[Beauty Equals Goodness|Cute, pretty or attractive]] || Dignified || Average || A bit predatory such as [[Eyes of Gold|yellow eyes]] or somewhat "gothic" such as [[Eerie Pale Skinned Brunette]] || Attractively scarred, sexy and seductive or otherworldly such as [[White Haired Pretty Boy|white hair]], [[Red Eyes Take Warning|red eyes]] ||
||'''Motivation''' for doing good|| [[Good Feels Good]], compassion || Love and loyalty || Worldview and honor such as [[The Fettered]], [[Defector From Decadence]] || Habit || Actually, why? [[Slave to PR|Or for]] [[Glory Seeker|the glory]] ||
||'''Characterization'''|| Evil can't touch them: [[Incorruptible Pure Pureness]], [[The Messiah]], [[The Fool]] || Won't sink any lower than this: [[Anti Hero]], [[Byronic Hero]] || Surly, bitter || Bordering on hubris: Hotheaded, arrogant, [[These Are Things Man Was Not Meant to Know|likes to play with dangerous stuff]] || [[Loners Are Freaks]] ||
||'''Contentness''' with life in general and good in particular || [[Good Feels Good|Enjoying every minute]] || Doing well || Neutral || Life is hard || [[Being Good Sucks|Angst, angst, angst...]] ||
||'''Morality of the story'''|| [[Rousseau Was Right]] || [[Black and White Morality]] || [[The Good the Bad And The Evil]] || [[Grey and Gray Morality]] || [[Black and Gray Morality]] ||
||'''Cynicism of the story''' || Idealistic || || || || Cynical ||
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Just to see if Gandalf with his wisdom should have predicted Saruman's Face/Heel turn:
* Species: Hm... what are wizards, actually? But they're very near to a superior species: 1
* Gender: Male, 4
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22:8 = 2.75 We can't blame Gandalf for his surprise, though Saruman's lack of a clear motivation should have given him pause to think.
 
Let's see if evilly charming Road from ''[[D .Gray Man-man]]'' will have to go the way of villains:
* Species: Everyone's human, I'll leave this out.
* Gender: Female, 4
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* Role: It's not entirely clear, but since she saw the opportunity to become Van Rook's new apprentice and seized on it, I'd say opportunist, definitely. 2.
* Asthetics: Definitely [[Evil Is Sexy]]. 4.
* Motivation: [[Money, Dear Boy]]. 2.
* Characterization: Somewhere between 3 and 4. She is somewhat cold-blooded but she does have some honor too, so... 3.5
* Contentness: I'd say she's doing pretty well. 2.
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* Role: [[The Dragon]], 4
* Asthetics: [[Evil Is Sexy]], 4
* Motivation: Though she COULD be classified as a [["Well Done, Son" Guy]], all but the most [[Draco in Leather Pants|sympathetic]] interpretations of her character have her in it for power, or even just [[For the Evulz]]. 2 for now, but your mileage will vary BIG TIME.
* Characterization: Once cold, calm, and collected, but now totally bats*** crazy. 2
* Contentness: Hard to say. Used to be enjoying every minute (though some argue that a lot of that behavior was a facade to make herself scary and strong), but started angsting HEAVILY in the finale, one of the reasons a lot of fans started to sympathize with her toward the end. 1 OR 5, depending on your interpretation.
* Morality of the Story: [[The Good, the Bad, Andand The Evil]], especially toward the end of season two. 4
* Idealism of the Story: Very idealistic, again, especially toward the end. 5
* 31/9 = 3.4 OR 35/9 = 3.9 (maybe even higher if people decide she deserves a higher score for Motivation)
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* Asthetics: Attractive, 1
* Motivation: It seemed to be just because it was the right thing to do, so 1 (in reality, it was 3)
* Characterization: He seemed to come off as an [[Anti -Hero]] at first, so 2 (in reality, it was 4)
* Contentness: He seemed to be doing all right, so 2 (in reality, it was 4)
* Morality of the Story: Black and White at the time, so 2
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* Characterization: Plain nuts. 2
* Contentness: Enjoying every minute. Well, this one shouldn't count, Ty Lee doesn't like doing the evil, she is mostly playing a game. 1
* Morality of the Story: [[The Good, the Bad, Andand The Evil]], especially toward the end of season two. 4
* Idealism of the Story: Very idealistic, again, especially toward the end. 5
* 34/9 = 3.8
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* Characterization: Lawful Evil, 3.
* Contentness: Neutral. Bored, off course. 3
* Morality of the Story: [[The Good, the Bad, Andand The Evil]], especially toward the end of season two. 4
* Idealism of the Story: Very idealistic, again, especially toward the end. 5
* 37/9 = 4.1
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* Role: [[Arrogant Kung Fu Guy]], 5
* Asthetics: Fangirls will scream [[Evil Is Sexy]], but if you ask him, [[Red Right Hand]], so 2.
* Motivation: OK, this one is too easy. [["Well Done, Son" Guy|You could be the trope namer for this, Zuko]]. 5
* Characterization: Not only he has some [[Evil Virtues]], he is completely lost. 4.5.
* Contentness: Angst, angst, angst... Sometimes Zuko would deserve 10, but the highest is 5.
* Morality of the Story: [[The Good, the Bad, Andand The Evil]], especially toward the end of season two. 4
* Idealism of the Story: Very idealistic, again, especially toward the end. 5
* 37.5/9 = 4.2
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* Characterization: [[Obviously Evil]] - 1
* Contentness: Enjoying every minute - 1
* Morality of the Story: [[The Good, the Bad, Andand The Evil]] - 4
* Idealism of the Story: Idealistic - 5
* 22.5/9 = 2.5. So there's not quite a 50/50 chance that he will. It's unlikely he's learning anything.
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* Role: Freelancer, rival turned evil: 5
* Aesthetics: Sasuke is one cute teenie, isn't he?: 5
* Motivation: By now he nearly is [[Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds]]: 3
* Characterization: Stupid... uhm, lost and confused: 5
* Contentness: Life is hard, 4
* Morality: The good, Naruto and co., the bad, Team Hawk and the evil, Akatsuki: 4
* Naruto is very idealistic, 5
* 38:9=4.2. He's coming back, believe it.
 
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* Characterization: Cold blooded - 3
* Contentness: Seems to be doing well. 2.
* Morality: [[The Good, the Bad, Andand The Evil]] - 4
* Idealism - Idealistic. 5.
** Total: 27/10 = 2.7. Not ''too'' out there, but it still looks somewhat unlikely.
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* Role: Key player, but also an independent contractor - 5.
* Asthetics: Sort of geeky-cute - 3 or 4. We'll go with 4.
* Motivation: [[For Science!]]! with a god-complex - 2.
* Characterization: At the start, 2, but showed a need for people to like and accept his work. As of "Belonging", he's realising the implications of his work, pushing him right over into "lost and confused" - 5.
* Contentness: At the start, he was lost in the science and in his cool toys, so 1. Now he's been faced with the amorality of some of the upper echelon, he's thought seriously for the first time about what he actually does - 4.
* Morality: [[Black and Grey Morality]], shading into [[Grey and Gray Morality]] at times. It's a Whedon show; it might change at any time. Right now we're at 3.
* Idealism: It exists,but it usually comes up short against reality - 2.
** 30/9 = 3.3. This is where it breaks down. He could change at any time during the series, but he's very definitely on ''DeWitt's'' side, and that particular loyalty is not in question. The only question is if ''she'' decides to go against her bosses.
*** Update: {{spoiler|It happened.}}
Adelle DeWitt
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*** Update: {{spoiler|It happened.}}
 
Charmcaster (''[[Ben 10: Alien Force (Animation)|Ben 10 Alien Force]]''):
* Species: Human - 3.
* Gender: Female - 4.
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* Morality: Shades of gray, what with Kevin and all - 3.
* Idealism: Really idealistic, actually. - 5.
** Total: 36.5/10 = 3.65. There's a decent chance she may turn once more of her character background is revealed (which, according to [[Word of God]], will happen in Ben 10: Ultimate Alien.) She's definitely not as evil as Kevin was, and he turned face (of course, alot of reasoning behind his turn [[Not Asas You Know Them|ignores his previous characterization entirely.]])
*** Update: {{spoiler|It happened, then later it was undone, then the undoing was undone and she's moved back toward turning to the good side. Yeah, [[Face Heel Revolving Door|it's one of those cases]].}}
 
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* Gender: Male - 4
* Age: Young Adult, much like Guts - 5
* Role: Griffith is the leader of the Hawks, and though Guts is the protagonist of the series in general, the Hero role in the [[Five -Man Band]] is most definitely Griffith - 1
* Aesthetics: [[White -Haired Pretty Boy]] - 5
* Motivation for doing good: He wants to rule a kingdom of his own, so I would chalk it up to glory - 5
* Characterization: He's rather arrogant, though not in a hot-headed way, and the "playing with dangerous stuff" definitely qualifies if you take that [[Artifact of Doom|Crimson Behelit]] into consideration. - 4
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* Morality: Black and Grey - 5
* Idealism: It would be hard to find something much more cynical than this series- 5
Total score: 35/10 = 3.5. So he wasn't quite as bad as Griffith, but it's still good he [[What the Hell, Hero?|woke up]] when he did...
 
And to update, how is Guts now that he has [[True Companions|a good gang]] with him? Will he succumb to the [[Enemy Within|Inner Beast]]?
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Result: 38/10: 3.8. Well, [[Just for Pun|looks like someone prefers tofu over meat.]] [[Sincerity Mode|In all seriousness,]] Flit better watch his back, because Frederick is going to show his true colors ''very soon.''
* Update: {{spoiler|Now that was unexpected. Turns out he's NOT the Vagan spy after all.}}
 
 
The [[Big Bad|Big Bads]]s from the first two seasons of ''Veronica Mars'' (beware spoilers).
 
'''Aaron Echolls.'''
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* Characterization: [[Lawful Evil]] ''and'' [[Even Evil Has Standards]], so either a (3) or (4).
* Contentness: [[All There in the Manual|The strategy guide]] said he was generally unhappy, so we'll say "life is hard" (4)
* Morality of the story: [[The Good, the Bad, Andand The Evil]] (4)
* Idealism of the story: Kind of split between Idealistic and Cynical, so (3)
 
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* Role: Seemed to be the [[Big Bad]] for a while, but it's pretty clear he's always been [[The Dragon]] (4)
* Aesthetics: The [[Glamour Failure]] with his body might cause him problems (2), but, [[Your Mileage May Vary|depending on your mileage]] he either doesn't have any outstanding features, possesses unnatural looks (4) or is conventionally attractive (5). Eh, let's say 3.5 again.
* Motivation: [[Well -Intentioned Extremist]], probably (4)
* Characterisation: Shows many cold-blooded signs early (3), but seems to be showing some traits leaning towards him [[Even Evil Has Standards|having standards]] (4).
* Contentness: His resolve does appear to have been shaken (4)
* Morality: [[Grey and Gray Morality]] (3). Except it's also got [[The Good, the Bad, Andand The Evil]] (4). And there are almost no truly evil characters (barring Tsukiyomi and possibly some others), so [[Rousseau Was Right]] (5). Well, that averages to (4)
* Sliding Scale: Idealistic in the end (5)
* '''Total:''' 36/10 or 37/10 = 3.6 or 3.7. Quite likely, really. {{spoiler|The fact that Negi wants to make like Nanoha only improves his chances}}
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* Aesthetics: Definately cute (5)
* Motivation: They pretty clearly believe in whatever Fate is currently doing (5)
* Characterisation: They haven't had much, but they're not evil or crazy. It's hard to say they're [[Rounded Character|Rounded Characters]]s but they are pretty lost and confused, even if they try to act like [[Noble Demon|Noble Demons]]s (4.5)
* Contentness: Life is ''very'' hard. Maybe not angst-festival hard, but it's pretty bad for them even if they like their ideal (4)
* Morality: (4)
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* Appearance: Well, they're all wearing the same sort of [[Powered Armor]], but Wash's does have that yellow stripe to indicate his Freelancer status, which could be a mark toward Predatory. ...Say 3.5.
* Motivation: Seems to be motivated by justice for himself and all the others Project Freelancer hurt, goes under Worldview and Honor. 3
* Characterization: Very bitter, but moves into [[Anti -Hero]] by the end of Reconstruction. 2.5
* Contentness: Life is hard. 4
* Morality: Very much [[Grey and Gray Morality]]. 4
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* Morality of the story: Reapers and some criminals are evil, Shepard and a few others are good, plenty of gray room : 4
* Idealism of the story: complicated, depends on Shepard' actions: 3
Total score: 29/10 = '''2.9''' While not quite at 50/50, it's definately a high mark for a [[Complete Monster]]. Being [[Green -Skinned Space Babe|an asari]] helps her there. But her [[For the Evulz|motivation]] and [[Psycho for Hire|characterization]] keep her from floating as high as I'd expected.
 
And now, from [[Mass Effect 2|the same game]], the odds of Legion going bad. Like Morinth, it was chosen for maximum scale-breaking, since its loyalty, assuming the appropriate mission is completed, is mostly not in doubt.
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* Motivation: loyalty to Shepard: 2
* Characterization: rather alien, but mostly pleasant: 2
* Contentedness: hard to tell, but seems pleased with its existence: 2
* Morality of the story: Reapers and some criminals are evil, Shepard and a few others are good, plenty of gray room: 3
* Idealism of the story: complicated, depends on Shepard' actions: 3
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Total score: 35/10 = 3.5. So we shouldn't have been too surprised, but it wasn't excruciatingly obvious...
 
OK, ''[[Doctor Who (TV)|Doctor Who]]'' spoilers incoming.
I can't help wondering whether the Doctor himself would have gone through with a [[Face Heel Turn]] if Adelaide Brooke hadn't [[Heroic Sacrifice|disrupted]] his frankly terrifying flirtation with [[A God Am I]]. So here goes.
* Species: Time Lord, definite [[Superior Species]] - 1
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Total score: 30/10 = 3. Could have gone either way. Oh dear. Adelaide, I once again salute you.
 
And, since I'm having fun with this, let's see if the Master's final act in [[Doctor Who (TV)/NS/Recap/S4 S30/E17 E18 The End of Time|The End Of Time]] would have actually led to a [[Heel Face Turn]], if y'know, [[Status Quo Is God|there was any way in hell the writers would even vaguely consider that]].
* Species: Somewhere between [[Human Aliens]] and [[Eldritch Abomination]], since he [[Came Back Wrong]] - 2
* Gender: Male - 2
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* Aesthetics: YMMV again, but I'd give him a 5.
* Motivation: Somewhere between [[Complete Monster]] and [[Ax Crazy|completely out of his tree]] - 1
* Characterization: An utter nutter ([[Rhymes Onon a Dime|sorry]]) - 2
* Contentness: He's fine with evil, but ''not'' a happy bunny - 3
* Morality: [[The Good, the Bad, Andand The Evil]] - 4
* Idealism: Rather cynical, with the exception of Wilfred - 2
Total score: 22/10 = 2.2. Still more likely than normal.
 
One more: how close to turning Valeyard was the Sixth Doctor after [[The Reveal]] of the Valeyard's origins during his [[Doctor Who (TV)/Recap/S23 E4/E04 The Ultimate Foe|trial]]?
* Species: Time Lord - 1
* Gender: Male - 4
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* Characterization: Would get a 4 if he wasn't so determined to eradicate evil - 2
* Contentness: Genuinely frightened by the Valeyard, and still recovering from the loss of Peri - 4
* Morality: [[The Good, the Bad, Andand The Evil]], given the Master's presence - 3
* Idealism: Corruption among the Time Lords, a [[Shadow Archetype]] and the Master? Baaaad times. The one shining beacon of idealism is the Doctor himself. - 4
Total score: 27/10 = 2.7. I think we're OK.
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* Aesthetics: Dignified. 2
* Characterisation: Somewhat arrogant. 4
* Morality: [[The Good, the Bad, Andand The Evil]]. 3
* 18/7 = 2.57. The Doctor may want to watch out.
 
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* Characterisation: Just evil, really. 1
* Contentness: Shit, contentness? Let's go with doing well. 2
* Morality of the Story: [[The Good, the Bad, Andand The Evil]], 4
* Idealism: Often depends. 3.
So... 15/9 = 1.67. Not very likely.
 
Likelihood of Turning Face for Light Yagami of [[Death Note (Manga)|Death Note]]
* Species: Human -3
* Gender: Male - 2
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* Role: The ''one'' [[Big Bad]] - 1
* Aesthetics: [[The Beautiful Elite|Unnaturally Handsome]] - 4
* Motivation: Between [[Nietzsche Wannabe]] and [[Well -Intentioned Extremist]] - 3.5
* Characterization: [[Even Evil Has Standards]] - 4
* Contentedness: [[Evil Feels Good|Enjoying every minute]] - 1
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* Age: Young Adult -5
* Role: Freelancer -4
* Aesthetics: [[Eerie Pale -Skinned Brunette]] -4
* Motivation: Force of Habit -4
* Characterization: Arrogant -4
* Contentedness: Neutral -3
* Morality of the story: [[Black and Gray Morality]] -5
* Idealism of the story: Cynical -5
 
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Woah, they're both just itching to go to the dark side! And Near scores exactly the same as L, with Mello a little below them both. No wonder [[Word of God]] states Near is the "more evil" between him and Mello. Now we can say for certain that Light's main opponents are really no better than him!
 
Due to the events of [[Blaz BlueBlazBlue]] Continuum Shift, let's see how is the chances of [[Ms. Fanservice|Litchi Faye-Ling]] once again turn good and call it quits being with NOL. If she is low, then even Tsubaki is doomed.
* Species: Human - 3
* Gender: Female - 4
* Age: She doesn't seem to reach 30 years old, so Young Adult - 4
* Role: She's the [[Sixth Ranger]] or [[Sixth Ranger Traitor]] of NOL who was not their starting members, so it's more like Freelancer - 5
* Aesthetics: She's the [[Ms. Fanservice]]. - 5
* Motivation: Love. Out there to save Arakune and self preservation. Therefore - 5.
* Characterization: VERY LOST AND CONFUSED (as far as the consensus go) - 5
* Contentness: Unknown thus far. She looks more like a [[Punch Clock Villain]], but she doesn't have high opinions on NOL, especially after she refused Hazama on the first go, thus making it like she doesn't enjoy being with NOL. But she never shows it. Buuut, if we're to go with what's shown thus far, as in complaining towards Rachel on how this is the only chance she got, needing to be persuaded thoroughly by Hazama before agreeing, and her dislike to Relius' actions for Carl... let's just say she's not content. She just didn't show time to angst, so 4.
* Morality: [[The Good, the Bad, Andand The Evil]]. Unlike what most people say, [[Blaz BlueBlazBlue]] isn't very much [[Black and Gray Morality]], even if the 'Good' is pretty gray. The Good: Anyone opposing NOL, The Bad: NOL, The Evil: Hazama and Relius. Therefore - 4 (if you feel insistent on it being Black And Gray... then it's 1)
* Idealism: Hazama has seems to always outwit the good guys in the way. BB world is VERY cynical. - 1
Average: 36/9 (without contentness consensus), or 40/10 (with current contentness consensus): 4. Actually very high chance. But this is [[Blaz BlueBlazBlue]] we're talking about. With people like Hazama around, he can change the chance.
 
For fun, let's see how was her chance of turning Heel, as proven in CS. Was it a low chance at first, but the impossible happened, or it was high all along?
 
* Species: Human - 3
* Gender: Female - 2
* Age: Young Adult - 5
* Role: Freelancer - 4
* Aesthetics: She's the [[Ms. Fanservice]]. - 1
* Motivation: Love - 2.
* Characterization: She played with [[These Are Things Man Was Not Supposed To Know|the Boundary]] - 4
* Contentness: Even if she could be happy with the people of Orient Town, she never seems to be content unless Arakune is cured. Therefore - 4
* Morality: [[The Good, the Bad, Andand The Evil]]. - 3
* Idealism: CYNICAL - 5
Average: 33/10: 3.3. Never thought it was this high. No wonder Hazama succeeded, not by a lucky shot.
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* Species: Human - 3
* Gender: Female - 4
* Age: Teenagers - 5
* Role: [[The Dark Chick]] of the team. She's nowhere near [[The Dragon]] of Imperator in position compared to Hazama or Relius - 3
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* Characterization: While she is lost and confused, her code as a Yayoi family, plus 'support' and sight from the Imperator makes her less confused and more focused compared to Litchi. - 4
* Contentness: Neutral. It's an order, and she has no time to angst, as much as she want. - 3
* Morality: [[The Good, the Bad, Andand The Evil]]. - 4
* Idealism: CYNICAL - 1
Average: 36/10: 3.6. Slightly lower than Litchi (and still lower if Litchi's contentness can be rated), but she has the advantage of being linked with one of the core characters (Jin), thus it's looking good for Tsubaki.
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* Species: Human - 3
* Gender: Female - 2
* Age: Teenagers - 4
* Role: Kinda as Jin's Lancer amongst the Academy groups before everyone went away... - 5
* Aesthetics: As before, attractive redheaded human. - 1
* Motivation: More than likely, it's for the love of Jin as well as familial duties. - 2
* Characterization: She's slightly corruptible, but she certainly wouldn't want to be [[Anti -Hero]]-ic - 2
* Contentness: Why else do you think she gets hammy when it comes to justice? - 2
* Morality: [[The Good, the Bad, Andand The Evil]] or [[Black and Gray Morality]]. - 3 or 5
* Idealism: CYNICAL - 5
Average: 29/10 (2.9) vs 31/10 (3.1). That bad, huh? Hazama sure knows his stuff when corrupting the fairer sex.
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* Species: As Terumi he's actually a ghost, looking quite like [[Eldritch Abomination]] - 1
* Gender: Male - 2
* Age: Existing since ages long. He's quite old - 1
* Role: He's part of the [[Big Bad Diumvirate]] - 1
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* Characterization: [[Obviously Evil]] - 1
* Contentness: He's enjoying every minute of it - 1
* Morality: [[The Good, the Bad, Andand The Evil]]. - 4
* Idealism: CYNICAL - 1
Average: 1.7/10: 1.7
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Relius Clover
* Species: Look human enough, but rumors say that he existed long ago and became like Terumi - 1
* Gender: Male - 2
* Age: He even looks old, fathering Carl and all. Look at those jaws. - 1
* Role: He's part of the [[Big Bad Diumvirate]] - 1
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* Characterization: Less characterized than Hazama, but he puts up a [[Lawful Evil]] facade in front of the Imperator and is pretty much all around cold blooded. - 3
* Contentness: He's content, but doesn't make it a frigging enjoyment like Hazama - 2
* Morality: [[The Good, the Bad, Andand The Evil]]. - 4
* Idealism: CYNICAL - 1
Average: 21/10: 2.1
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* Species: Snarky, but deep down a [[Friendly Neighbourhood Vampire]] - 2
* Gender: Female - 2
* Age: Looks young, but more [[Older and Wiser]] - 2
* Aesthetics: One of the sources of [[Blaz BlueBlazBlue]] Loli of awesome. - 1
* Motivation: Not known. She's not there for good sources, and she wonders why sometimes... - 5
* Characterization: Very arrogant for a little girl - 4
* Contentness: Pretty neutral in between doing good or evil - 3
* Morality: [[The Good, the Bad, Andand The Evil]]. - 3
* Idealism: CYNICAL - 5
Average: 27/9 = 3. Surprisingly fifty-fifty, a bit closer to Litchi, but less so. But the chance is still there, you may as well try to keep your eye on her, Ragna and Hakumen.
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* Characterization: She has zero social skills, orders people around like trash, holes herself up in her lab. Though she is pretty hotheaded and arrogant. Worst case 5, best case 4.
* Contentness: Life does suck when your opposition is a [[Troll]] who reads your movement, taunts you like hell and back and you seem to want to claim his head but other people tried to do the same. 4
* Morality: [[The Good, the Bad, Andand The Evil]]. - 3
* Idealism: CYNICAL - 5
Average: Worst case 31/9: 3.44, best case 30/9: 3.33. Above average and is dangerously skirting the line. Ragna better try to appease her or else she will turn the whole Sector Seven against him.
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* Aesthetics: [[Moe]]. 1.
* Motivation: She's trying to do good for her family and for the moment... friends, like the rest of the Stooges (except Tsubaki). 2
* Characterization: While she is [[The Messiah]], the fact that Hazama CAN turn her into Mu-12 hampers her 'incorruptibleness', even if the mode was shut down by Ragna, but she really won't even touch [[Anti -Hero]]-ism. 1.5.
* Contentness: Seems to be OK. 2.
* Morality: [[The Good, the Bad, Andand The Evil]]. 3.
* Idealism/Cynicism: CYNICAL. 5.
Average: 26.5/10 = 2.65.... Come on, she's out of Mu-12 phase! Why is it slightly above average!? I guess everyone needs to be careful
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* Aesthetics: Attractive, [[Ms. Fanservice|almost ridiculously so]]. 1.
* Motivation: Spouts goodness and 'fighting for justice' or sorta like that, very much like a female Bang. Of course, mainly loyalty and friendship, but with those extra tidbits... 1.
* Characterization: Always protecting friends is nice on paper, but when the practice is 'brutally kill anyone who ever tries to look at her friends (Noel and Tsubaki) funny'... that's [[Anti -Hero]]-ic. Still, she won't get lower than that. 2.
* Contentness: Dude, did you see how she constantly spout about doing good? She must be having a hell of a time being Good. 1.
* Morality: [[The Good, the Bad, Andand The Evil]]. 3.
* Idealism/Cynicism: CYNICAL. 5.
Average: 24/10 = 2.4. Actually below average. But very little below average so perhaps Makoto can't just relax despite the score. There's always the chance of [[Knight Templar|taking 'protecting friends' too far]] if her comment to Tager is any indication...
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* Characterization: With treatment as [[Butt Monkey]], yeah, everyone thinks he's [[The Fool]]. 1.
* Contentness: Oh ''[[For Great Justice|come on...]]'' 1
* Morality: [[The Good, the Bad, Andand The Evil]]. 3.
* Idealism/Cynicism: CYNICAL. 5.
Average: 29/10 = 2.9. Wow! Even surprisingly above average. Bang has to be careful on being overly crushed with Litchi's current situation, and juggle with his Ikaruga patriotism and hope for the best. Yeah. Now let's hope Phoenix Rettenjou isn't draining your optimism and sense of justice.
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* Characterization: Admittedly, combining his aspects as Arakune and Lotte, he's pretty rounded. 5.
* Contentness: I don't think he likes being a monster that can make no advances on his ambition against Kokonoe. 5.
* Morality: [[The Good, the Bad, Andand The Evil]]. 4.
* Idealism/Cynicism: CYNICAL. 1.
 
Result: 30/10. Very good, above average chance. But still, it all depended if Litchi succeeds or not... AND whether he can finally do something on that inferiority complex of his.
 
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And just to be fair with the other [[Blaz BlueBlazBlue]], let's try to see if somewhere along the line in [[Guilty Gear]], Anji Mito could call it quits with working with That Man.
 
* Species: Human, Japanese in a setting where Japanese is considered a rare breed / [[Last of His Kind]] - 5
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* Characterization: He's not very lost, he's focused on his thirst for knowledge and is a pretty honorable for a Japanese. More likely to become a [[Noble Demon]] - 4
* Contentness: He seems pretty content and seems to think That Man isn't as bad as Baiken thinks, going so far as trying to recruit her - 2
* Morality: [[The Good, the Bad, Andand The Evil]]. Not as extreme as the [[Blaz BlueBlazBlue]] setting, but [[Guilty Gear]] sure doesn't quite know a purely white faction. The Good: Holy Knights, Jellyfish Pirates, Zepp, Sol. The Bad: Assassin's Guild, That Man's group (barring I-No), Gears. The Evil: I-No, PWAB. - 4
* Idealism: Pretty Idealistic, but not very so. Anji being a Heel on basis of being with That Man himself is a proof that it's not overly idealistic - 4
Average: 36/10 = 3.6. Pretty good. Even if That Man isn't as bad as NOL, Anji himself will more likely find something unsettling on him and cause him to call it quits.
 
For a new GG character to be rated, Testament has all been on the stuffs about [[Humans Are Bastardsthe Real Monsters]]. As seen in one of his alternate endings in GGXX, he turns against humanity after Dizzy died. So what are the chances that in the future he gets riled up with humanity again and once again out to eradicate them?
 
* Species: Gear, seems like '[[Superior Species]]' to me - 2
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* Role: Ever since he's out of Justice's services, he's more like a Freelancer who chose to protect Dizzy on his own will. - 4
* Aesthetics: Gothic looking, red-eyed creepy [[Bishonen]]... - 5
* Motivation: Love and Loyalty, probably he does 'good' just to protect Dizzy - 2
* Characterization: VERY bitter and mistrusting for humanity, but lately he also becomes a bit of a loner due to Dizzy being with the Jellyfish - 5
* Contentness: Doesn't comment much about it. - 3
* Morality: [[The Good, the Bad, Andand The Evil]]. - 3
* Idealism: Quite idealistic, but not so much - 2
Average: 35/10: 3.5. My God, no wonder most of Testament's alternate endings are about him renewing his war with humanity. His rate is just that kind of above average!
 
The chance of [[Stargate Universe (TV)|Eli Wallace]] turning heel:
* Species: Human - 3
* Gender: Male - 4
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Average: 2.67 - Slightly below average, but not very low for him, if Raiden actually tries and WANT to prevent Dragon King's return.
 
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Let's see if Emperor K'Yyrikakas from The Warrior's Chronicles would have a chance at all of becoming good.
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Average: 2.22 repeating. - That's below average, but far better than a large amount of big bads. All in all, he probably could have been converted if they'd figured out a way to form an alliance with him.
 
How about Miles Edgeworth from [[Ace Attorney]]? How likely was his Heel Face Turn in the first place?
* Species: Irrelevant in the Ace Attorney universe
* Gender: Male, 2
* Age: Young Adult, 4
* Role: Could be considered Phoenix's "Rival Turned Evil" (though he is definitely an Anti-Villain at worst), 5
* Aesthetics: Definitely attractive, 5
* Motivation: Pratically screams "Well-Intentioned Extremist!", 4
* Characterization: Very honorable and worthy opponent, 4
* Contentness: Hard to say. Seems to be doing well, but deep down is haunted by his past and possibly his actions as a prosecutor. I'll go with 4.
* Morality: This is a difficult one. I'll leave this out for now.
* Idealism: Er... again, hard to say. Everything seems to pretty much work out in the end, though, so I will go with 4.
* Average: 32/8 = 4.
** So, Edgeworth was just itching for redemption all along...
 
[[G La DOSGLaDOS]]
* Species: AI so that's a 1.
* Gender: Female, 4
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* Age: Irrelevant
* Role: [[Big Bad]], 1
* Motivation: [[For Science!]], 2
* Characterization: 2, strange and erratic plans indeed.
* Contentness: Seems to enjoy her life, 2
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Average: 2. {{spoiler|And yet it happened. I did not see that coming...}}
 
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This hasn't happened yet, but I suspect at some point Anissa in ''[[Invincible (Comic Book)|Invincible]]'' will have a [[Heel Face Turn]]. Let's see how probable it is for her:
 
* Species: [[Human Aliens]], 3.
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* Role: Middle ground, 3.
* Aesthetics: Cute, 5.
* Motivation: Somewhere between 3 and 4. Her Empire in general is a bunch of [[Social Darwinist|social darwinists]], but she genuinely seems to believe conquering Earth will make things better for both Humans and Viltrumites, hence making her a bit of a [[Well -Intentioned Extremist]] too.
* Characterization: Again, between 3 and 4. She is [[Lawful Evil]], but she also seems to be somewhat more honourable than other evil Viltrumites we meet.
* Contentness: Hard to estimate based on what we've seen of her. Let's say 3.
* Morality: [[The Good, the Bad, Andand The Evil]], 4.
* Idealism: More idealistic than cynical, 4.
 
So, her score is 34/9 = 3.78. Seems like the road to redemption is kinda likely for Anissa.
 
I can't believe no-one has [[A Worldwide Punomenon|checked out]] Spike from [[Buffy the Vampire Slayer]]. Was his [[Heel Face Turn]] predictable?:
* Species: Vampire, 2
* Gender: Male, 2
* Age: Way older than any living human, so 1
* Role: Leader, back when [[The Atoner|the atoning]] began. 1
* Aesthetics: Well, [[Evil Is Sexy|evil is sexy]], after all. 4
* Motivation: For doing evil: he is unscrupolous and has precise goals, so 2.
* Characterization: As the story proceeds, Spike gets his own [[Rounded Character|characterization in the round]], so it's a 5.
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Result: 30/10 = '''3'''. It was an exact 50/50 chance, and Spike's luck just happened to favor the side of good.
 
Breakdown from ''[[Transformers Prime (Animation)|Transformers Prime]]'' has several [[Pet the Dog]] moments so odds are that he'll eventually become an Autobot:
* Species: Cybertronian/Alien-robot, 2
* Gender: Male, 2
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Okay, the last episode of [[Brave 10]] is nearly out and let's see if Anastasia will find her way to eventually become Face once more after whammy Heel turn in episode 9. [["On the Next Episode of..." Catchphrase|Bring it on!]]
 
* Species: In a world where everyone is human... well this doesn't count.
* Gender: Female, 4
* Age: Young Adult. Definitely younger than Yukimura who's more Middle-Aged. 4.
* Role: [[The Dark Chick]] of Hanzo's [[Five -Bad Band]]. 4.
* Aesthetics: Uh, she's the [[Ms. Fanservice]] and has the sexy voice of [[Yuu Asakawa]]. 5.
* Motivation: At this point, she claims to be a [[Social Darwinist]] in believing only the strong survives. 3.
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