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* One can argue that Soul Edge has already found a new host in {{spoiler|Sophitia's daughter}}, if [http://soulcalibur.wikia.com/wiki/Sophitia this] is to be believed.
** While Nightmare does have a new host in SCV, this bit at least has been Jossed, since Pyrhha is her own character in that game.
* Nightmare sent out Tira to find a suitable replacement host for him, as his body was a rather fragile "shell", and he himself went on to hunt Siegfried to recover his "true" body (Soul Edge). According to Soul Calibur 4, Tira found a prospect host on Sophitia's daughter, though the fact she's still too young (4 at most) has made her seek further: by SC4, she has targeted both Maxi and Yun-seong (only in Mi-na's story mode) to serve that role.
* {{spoiler|Nightmare's new host is an unidentified male body using the name 'Dumas', though Tira seemingly wishes to make Pyrrha into another host to do away with Nightmare.}}
** {{spoiler|If Pyrrha Omega is any indication, Tira succeeded.}}
*** {{spoiler|Adding to the confirmation, the man known as Dumas was recently confirmed in an artbook to be Raphael.}}
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A lot of his moves are named after Babylonian gods...
* That one's possible, he's helluva old. But he's African and he got [[Blessed with Suck]] when he stole a relic from some tribe (says it in the SC3 manual). It could be they gave him a Babylonian name because it felt appropriate?
* That happened a long, long time before the games. Zasalamel came from the tribe that used to protect Soul Calibur, but got expelled after he tried to use the sword for his own benefit. He later learns the secret of reincarnation. African is just his ([[Wild Mass Guessing|assumed]]) current incarnation's origin; his true origin is unknown, but likely Babylonian.
== Zaslamel comes from the distant descendants of Algol's people ==
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== Cassandra is in the closet ==
While the Omake is... an [[Omake]], she is WAY too interested in striping Hilde.
== Siegfried canonically dies at the end of 4, but is resurrected by Soul Calibur ==
We already know its evil counterpart Soul Edge is able to bring back the dead (see Cervantes), and that Soul Calibur might not be [[Light Is Not Good|entirely good]], AND in every ending (except Hilde's) that involve him, he dies. Now, to figure out how he will [[Came Back Wrong|come back wrong]]...
* Didn't his SC4 bio hint that he died during the battle against Nightmare at the Lost Cathedral, but was resurrected by Soul Calibur? It was stated that he had a mortal wound in his chest that should have killed him, but now, he's practically or partly one with Soul Calibur, just like Nightmare is one with Soul Edge, hence why his armor is all crystal-like.
* Siegfried was "near death" before Soul Calibur bonded with his soul, saving him from what would have been death. Also, according to Broken Destiny's The Gauntlet, {{spoiler|Siegfried ended up crystalized as a price to stop Soul Edge, and was left under Ivy's care until your team awakens him again}}. Though considering the mode labels itself as non-canon right off the bat and is more of a parody, it may mean nothing.
* Given that he is showing using "requiem" again in the trailer for V, and his armor has gone back to normal style, it seems that he has gone back to being a normal human; seeing as Calibur heals rather than hurts, it's possible that he was going to die, but got healed and devoted his life to Soul Calibur's pursuit, but ended it after he figured out just how far it was willing to go, being yet another atoner.
** According to SCV, despite no longer being the wielder, a piece of Soul Calibur remains inside him, possibly to keep him alive. This is why his Critical Edge still involves crystals.
== Zasalamel is Tristy ==
The fly on the wall narrator from Weapon Master Mode in Soul Calibur 2. He's a member of the secret order that protects Soul Calibur, and by the end of the story, he becomes immortal due to the opposing energy of the swords. This would explain why he thinks getting between them again will finally kill him. As for the name, he changed it because it sounded silly.
* Seems highly unlikely, given Tristy is part of the group protecting the three gates (which ''could'' be the tribe protecting Soul Calibur), and Zasalamel's stated to have found the "secret of resurrection" way after he was expelled from said group. Based on the fact that Tristy in-game uses a Kilik avatar and there's a picture of a younger Edge Master wielding Kali-Yuga in the intro for the mode, I'd wager that Tristy is actually Edge Master, Kilik's immortal and all-knowing master.
== Every character's weapons are actually made from aluminum ==
That why they never cause permanent damage (read: they act as blunt objects), and that's why Siegfried/Nightmare/half the characters can wield impossibly large weapons as if they weighed as much as a foam bat. It also helps the mystery that is Cervantes' wooden pistol still being able to shoot bullets (because it's actually aluminum).
* [[Gameplay and Story Segregation]]. In the story itself and various endings, weapons are quite capable of injuring and/or killing.
* In Nightmare's case, it may be a combo of his bond to Soul Edge and [[Rule of Cool]].
* Well, actually, the swords Siegfried and Nightmare use would only weigh about 10-15 pounds, historically speaking.
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== Seigfried has [[Tales of Symphonia|Chronic Angeleus Crystallius Inoffcium]] ==
That particular disease -- [[Fun with Acronyms|CACI]] -- causes the afflicted person to TURN INTO A CRYSTAL. What's happening to Seigfried? Yes, it's caused by the body's rejection of a [[Tales of Symphonia|Cruxis Crystal]]... but there's nothing saying Soul Calibur isn't one. When Lloyd Irving appeared in the SC Universe, in Soul Calibur: Legends -- he thought that the Soul Edge was using Exspheres. Soul Edge and Soul Calibur are essentially the same thing- and a similar relationship is shared between Exspheres and Cruxis Crystals. Also -- Cruxis Crystals' effects on people seem angelic -- similar to the effects of the "Spirit Sword", Soul Calibur. Exspheres, on the other hand, turn people into monsters (Do I need to say what Soul Edge does, besides eating souls -- which Exspheres do as well). Lloyd, as stupid as he is, may have been exactly right -- and Angol forged the two swords using these Lifeless Beings. Which, if Soul Calibur was made from a Cruxis Crystal -- Seigfried may have been that unlucky 1:1 Million guy, and when he wields Soul Calibur, he exposes himself to the Cruxis Crystal, and his body is rejecting it -- causing CACI, which takes a slightly different form, as it's attached through his weapon, rather than to his throat.
* Algol forged Soul Calibur off a Soul Edge shard, being purified through a ritual that claimed his life. He didn't forge Soul Edge, though, and the details on how, when, and who created it are still left unexplored.
** Soul Edge was an ordinary blade that transformed into what it is now by soaking up blood in battle.
== Siegfried will be fully possessed by Soul Calibur in the next game. ==
Soul Calibur certainly has a will of its own, and even has a voice, as seen in Cassandra's ending. Soul Edge spoke to Siegfried and tricked him into becoming its host; however, the transformation to Nightmare didn't happen instantaneously. Rather, Siegfried did what Soul Edge told him of his own will at first, believing that it would bring his father back to life. Then over time, Soul Edge fully took over him, turning him into Nightmare. Now look at how things are now. Siegfried is carrying Soul Calibur and perhaps it talks to him as well. Siegfried is being urged on by Soul Calibur to destroy Soul Edge, just as Soul Edge urged Siegfried on to gather souls. Since Soul Calibur was once a part of Soul Edge, it isn't that much of a stretch to assume that it will use similar tactics. And of course, there is Siegfried's crystallized appearance, hinting that Soul Calibur is beginning to take over. In Soul Calibur V, Siegfried will once again be a mere host to a spirit sword.
* Possibly Jossed, as Siegfried no longer has Soul Calibur in V.
== Tira has two souls. ==
According to her SCIV profile, her mind was completely torn to pieces during the clash of the spirit swords at the Lost Cathedral. Her consciousness pulled itself together and was reformatted into two people. Her profile refers to them as two separate entities, two individual consciousnesses. Since Tira is now two different people, it is not that much of a stretch to assume that she also has two souls. This will possibly factor into her story in Soul Calibur V. Perhaps, as seen in the cutscene that plays for characters who fight Nightmare as their final boss, Nightmare absorbs her soul when he feels she has outlived her use. Unknown to him, this does not kill her and she manages to crawl away while Nightmare is busy with Siegfried. This means that one of her selves will be lost; assuming it's Jolly, then Gloomy will be in control and most likely very very pissed off.
== Ivy is a potentially closet lesbian. ==
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* Or he could be a robot or golem. Those mechanical arms might be where the fake flesh coating stripped away....
* Except Yoshimitsu had two flesh arms in his first Tekken appearance and they are both missing different arms.
* Maybe whenever he loses too much of his artificial body, he just fakes his death and lays low for a while. A few years later, the "new" Yoshimitsu shows up (complete with fresh limbs) and convinces everyone else that he's the original's apprentice or something.
* [[Jossed]] by the Yoshimitsu in ''V'', who is explicitly said to have been raised and taught by Yoshimitsu the First (i.e. the Yoshi from the previous four games).
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== Necrid from Soul Calibur II was Algol's early attempt to resurrect himself. ==
Something went wrong during whatever process it was that was supposed to bring him back, and he turned into an incoherent green abomination, so he went back to the spirit world and tried again. Supporting this is the fact that both Necrid and Algol have the similar fighting style of materializing weapons in their hands through will alone.
* Impossible by both their backstories. Necrid is stated to have been a normal traveling warrior out to get Soul Edge, but ended up [[Trapped in Another World|trapped in the Chaos world]]. Algol has never been awakened since his sealing, and he's been inside Soul Calibur, never on Chaos. He also learned his energy-bending while inside the maelstrom of energy released at the end of Soul Calibur 3, and is just pure thought: he has no physical body, but one made of raw energy he created with his mind's power and will.
== Rothion is a [[The Beard|beard]]; Sophitia is a lesbian, too. ==
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[http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/soulcalibur/images/0/02/Sophie-taki.jpg I'm] [http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/soulcalibur/images/e/e4/Sophitia_xianghua_anime.jpg just] [http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/soulcalibur/images/e/e8/Ivysophie.jpg sayin'] [http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/soulcalibur/images/0/06/430px-Mina-Sophie.jpg here...]
* I sure as hell [[Die for Our Ship|hope so]].
** Well, that's just terrible. For shame.
== [[Assassin's Creed|Ezio]] or a relative of his will appear in a Soul game. ==
All right, given the Soul Series' predilection for [[Guest Fighter|guest fighters]], this isn't so much a wild guess as a near certainty.
* Not to mention, unlike the others, Ezio was active at about the time all this is supposedly going down.
** Not quite, AC2 happens in the late 1400s, around 90 years before Soul Blade (1584). Still though, it's definitely closer than Kratos was in Broken Destiny.
* Confirmed!
== Another character will have to become Nightmare ==
Nightmare can't continue to exist as a body for the sword forever; he needs a host, and he needs one now. Given that Phyrra is too young, some potential candidates for Nightmarehood are Tira, Sophitia, Maxi, and Yun-Seong. Alternatively, Nightmare kills Algol and in absorbing him gains the power to exist perpetually on pure willpower, eliminating the need for any character to fall to the Nightmare persona.
** I damn sure hope that someone else becomes Nightmare already so things can finally change a bit!
** Or how about Mitsurugi becomes Nightmare? Since he may be an ancestor of the Mishimas (in Tekken), it would make a lot of sense for him to acquire the Devil Gene via Soul Edge, which he then passed on down to his descendants. Jinpachi in particular bears some great resemblance to Soul Edge, what with that demonic eye he can have. And his demon form is even the same red/purple color scheme as the sword.
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== Cassandra and Raphael's stories will remain linked ==
In the transition to SCIII, Cassandra's weapons were cracked from an encounter with the vampire townsfolk Raphael turned, while in the transition to SCIV, she was attacked by Raphael personally and had her shards stolen, seeking out the holy stone. This road could lead to her becoming Raphael's nemesis rather than Soul Edge's, and end in one of two ways for her appearence in SCV's opening or ending: as the world's first vampire hunter... or as Amy's pet.
== Soul Calibur 5 ==
Assuming there will be one, where do you speculate the plot and characters will go? Put your guestimates here.
* Lizardman will return from being a comic relief villain. His goals make him an [[Evil Counterpart]] to Sophitia and gives him and Astaroth a common enemy, possibly giving Astaroth more to do than be Nightmare's [[The Starscream]] over and over.
* Algol will die or become a [[What If]] character like Abyss and Night Terror.
** The [[What If]] possibility is jossed. He fought Mitsurugi.
* Tira informs Sophitia that if Soul Edge is to survive along with her children, that it must be fed souls. So Sophitia kills her and feeds her soul to Soul Edge.
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** Tira will have been consumed Soul Edge to give him a power boost.
** The new bonus characters would be: Link for Wii and an ancestor of Desmond Miles of Assassin's Creed for 360 and [[PlayStation 3]]
*** Some of us ''[[Devil May Cry]]'' fans have been waiting for Dante since the rumor that [[SC 3]] was used for a DMC 3 boss battle.
== Taki will found the [[Raidou Kuzunoha vs. the Soulless Army|Kuzunoha Clan]] ==
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== [[Star Wars|A Sith Lord]] created Soul Edge ==
The Sith create many types of [[Evil Weapon|evil stuff]], in the form of Sith Swords, Sith Amulets, and Sithspawn (monsters). The Soul Calibur world is already connected to the Star Wars Universe (the planet is stuck in the Cowl Crucible). What does Soul Edge do -- make weapons (it helped build Ivy's sword), become shards that corrupts people, and turn them to monsters (Charade). It may be calling Vader to use its power properly since no one knows Sith Sorcery in the Soul Series and since it could repair Cervantes while he was crumbling to dust, a pair of arms and legs would not be too hard for Soul Edge. It might even want Anakin's body with his repaired Force Potential, and a whole universe of souls to harvest.
* The reason the Soul Calibur crew can block lightsabers? The Force Weapon ability which grants resistance to lightsabers, which is mentioned to have been created by many cultures and force traditions.
* This would date Soul Edge's creation during the Old Sith Empire when Sith swords were in style.
* Muur Talisman is a good example of a sith artifact able to create minions called Rakghouls.
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== Patroklos will become the new Nightmare. ==
Many are specualating that Pyrrha will become possessed by Soul Edge due to Tira infecting her with Soul Edge's energy. However, notice how it's Patroklos who appears in Soul Edge's eye while the music suddenly becomes more sinister. This hints that Patroklos will become Nightmare, or at the very least, become Soul Edge's new wielder. In turn, Pyrrha will become Soul Calibur's wielder.
* {{spoiler|[[Jossed]].}}
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== Pyrrha is still possessed by Soul Edge enough to mirror what Siegfried had once done. ==
In Soul Calibur, it mentioned that whenever Sieg would sleep, he would awake to find his sword covered in blood. The same will happen with Pyrrha.
* Further supported by everyone close to her seemingly dying and being imprisoned for killing her fiancee, despite her swearing to not remembering committing the murder.
* Actually, that was Tira who killed Pyrrha's fiance. However, {{spoiler|Tira ''does'' manipulate the girl into killing others, eventually turning Pyrrha into a malfested (i.e. Pyrrha Omega). This would suggest that Soul Edge had some sort of lingering effect from all those years ago.}}
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In one of Patroklos's endings, he will find Soul Edge and destroy it just as Pyrrha walks in. You can [[My God, What Have I Done?|guess]] [[Tear Jerker|what]] [[Died in Your Arms Tonight|happens.]]
* {{spoiler|[[Jossed]].}}
* {{spoiler|The scenario above is [[Jossed]], however, Pyrrha's life still appears to have a connection to Soul Edge, as it was the reason Sophitia chose to sacrifice her life.}}
== Lizardman/Lizardmen are really the dinosaurs from [[Jurassic Park]] ==
A theory I thought of [[Played for Laughs|really just meant to be silly.]] But I often play Soul Calibur II and whenever I see him, he obviously reminds me of a dinosaur (specfically a velociraptor) and also we see that Lizardman/Lizardmen really have no back story and are just [[Demoted to Extra|extras]]. That got me thinking... remember that the velociraptors in Jurassic Park became highly intelligent, especially at the expense of the humans at the island? So what if the Soul Calibur Universe is not really a historical happening, but more of a [[After the End|post-apocalyptic]] world that shares many of the same historical cultures, ideas, etc. (basically I guess a repeat of our world/history) passed down from its [[Just Before the End|pre-apocalyptic]] word, but in a different way (it would explain certain things such as the [[Translation Convention]], [[Eternal Sexual Freedom]], etc.)? Obviously this doesn't take place directly [[After the End]], but maybe a few thousand years and possibly the end was even caused by the demonic sword itself? Anyway, assuming we all know what happened in Jurassic Park, the world ends and obviously animals still survive including the secluded island of dinosaurs. Possibly they just continued to evolve, but not enough time passed when we first see them, so they're still intelligent and possess human-like qualities, but still remain very dinosaur/lizard-like. Personally, a velociraptor with a sword is just [[Crazy Awesome]], but that's just me.
== Taki's oversized breasts are a curse by Gel-O-Fury. ==
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== Xianghua will make a comeback in SCV ==
Because a Mother-Daughter Team consisting of a thirty-something [[Hot Shounen Mom]] and a 15-sai [[Little Miss Badass]] is too amusing to pass up.
* [[Jossed]].
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== Arthur's daughter is Viola ==
She's a minimum of 22 and not much older (she was an infant at
* While the math adds up (four years between ''SC'' and ''SCII-SCIV'', 17 years between ''SCIV'' and ''SCV''; give or take a few months and that'd be somewhere between 21-23), are we even sure that Viola herself is 23? Her profile gives her age as "24 Tri-color stars", which is just as outlandish and full of whimsy as the rest of her [[Fairy Tale Motifs]]-inspired bio (which might be deliberate, seeing as ''many'' have already come to the conclusion that Viola is an older, amnesiac Amy, due to similar traits such as facial features, eye color, hair style, [[Elegant Gothic Lolita]] style of dress, etc.).
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Links with the 'Sophitia is the new Nightmare' WMG above.
It's not that hard to believe, really. If Sophitia does become Nightmare, I can see Rothion decide to do something for a change and try to find her while attempting to either bring her back to normal, or join her/protect her out of love. Could lead into a full on family brawl if Pyrrha and Patroklos get involved as well.
He could also be a replacement for Rock, who would probably be too old to fight after the time skip. After all, Rothion is a blacksmith, and they are usually equipped with large hammers in fiction.
* If he didn't actually die like Patroklos' bio says, it would make for a compelling story if everything else matches up, not to mention it'd be a good way to differentiate Rothion from his family of sword & shield users and finally get him out of [[Non-Action Guy]] territory (which at least partially responsible for his [[Die for Our Ship]] status in-fandom). That being said, I don't necessarily think he'd take Rock's role, seeing as many are expecting Bangoo to succeed Rock. He'd most likely be a swordsman or hammer-wielder, but I would think they'd take care to make him his own character for the most part.
* Pat's Bio says he is dead though.
* Yeah, but his bio is also based off of how ''Patroklos himself'' interprets the events, in a vein similar to how [[Tekken|Jin thinks that Ogre killed Jun]]. [[Unreliable Narrator]] is in effect here, and it's the ambiguity of Sophitia and Rothion's alleged deaths that led to WMGs such as "Sophitia will be the new Nightmare" in the first place.
** Most likely jossed. Patroklos' bio clearly describes Rothion's deathbed.
== Mitsurugi's brother is I, Yoshimitsu (the new one) ==
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== Patroklos is malfested and the ''antagonist'' of the story ==
So far [http://www.dualshockers.com/2011/12/06/new-soulcalibur-v-screenshots-revealed/ what we've seen] of story mode has shown a bit claiming Pat "Destroyed any that ''looked'' like malfested" (alongside a pair of story bits of him with an evil expression claiming "to bad there's no way to prove it" and people running in terror), that he works with the guy we know to be Nightmare's alias. Pat '''is''' the main character of the story, only in the way Nightmare was in 2.
* {{spoiler|[[Jossed]], although he's kind of a dick, is misled by Graf Dumas/Nightmare into slaughtering innocent humans, and is nearly turned into a [[Knight Templar]] for Soul Calibur. He gets better by the end, though.}}
* Oddly enough, Yoshimitsu's taunt has him calling Patrokolos an "evildoer," while he does have a second taunt for those not considered "evil." More than likely hinting at some cut story elements, though.
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## According to his bio, Raphael wakes up in a cell (the location is unknown) with no recollection of ''how'' he ended up there. Additionally, Soul Edge is said to have used a spare body found beneath Ostrheinsburg Castle as his host sometime after being killed by Siegfried and subsequently regaining consciousness.
## Judging by the wispy fumes generating from his lower body, Raphael's artwork seems to indicate that he might be a ghost. He also hasn't (physically) aged since ''II'', although that could instead be chalked up to his Soul Edge-induced vampirism. Additionally, [http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-10-20-raphael-confirmed-for-soulcalibur-5 Daishi notes that] Raphael ''died'' during ''SCIV''.
## Graf Dumas (Nightmare's alias in ''V'') is a French name. Raphael is French.
## Dumas is also the surname of [[Alexandre Dumas|the author]] of ''[[The Three Musketeers (novel)|The Three Musketeers]]''; Raphael's primary attire is reminiscent of this, and his fencing skills adds to the overall comparison. In the same vein, Nightmare's 2P attire (which seems to be modeled after his 2P outfit in ''II'') features a mask which obscures his facial features (thus maintaining the enigma of his true identity). Thus, he's the [[Man in the Iron Mask]], which was featured in the final installment of the ''d'Artagnan Romances'' (which started with--you guessed it--''The Three Musketeers''). Also, in ''[[The Count of Monte Cristo (novel)|The Count of Monte Cristo]]'' (also by [[Alexandre Dumas]]), Dantes is [[Running Gag|jokingly referred to]] as Lord Ruthven, the name of a classical fictional vampire.
## Raphael and Nightmare [[Yasunori Masutani|share a seiyuu]] in ''V'', much like how Siegfried and Nightmare were both voiced by [[Nobuyuki Hiyama]] before the latter became the former's [[Enemy Without]].
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A major part of the known plot seems to be the "Astral Chaos" that Soul Edge retreated to and restored Nightmare in. Algol also seems to be tied to that location, so who's to say that Necrid, a warrior who got trapped in "Soul Edge's dimension", doesn't hail from there as well? And who's to say that said warrior might not get out again, what with such a major rift popping up? It sucked up (and apparently spat out) Cervantes... Necrid might've gotten out as well.
* Doubt it. Even factoring out Necrid's [[The Scrappy|Scrappy]] status with a good portion of the fanbase, there's still the fact that he's the creative property of [[Spawn|Todd McFarlane]]. Inserting Necrid without first striking a deal with McFarlane would probably prove to be difficult.
** No playable Necrid, but one of Viola's unlockable weapons has the same name and appearance as Necrid's
== Raphael will have a rivalry with Z.W.E.I. ==
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