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* [[Bakugan]]. Mira is too obsessed with her brother. And Keith after meeting with Mira and accepting her on his side makes her wear dress and all dinner looks like... [[Subtext|a date]]. When Keith [[Heel Face Turn|becomes good]] they share some sweet moments and she even [[Luminescent Blush|BLUSHES]] then they talk. Squint at the final ending, they live together and their interaction isn't unlike those of newly married couple, and [[Ho Yay|Gus]] is nowhere to be seen, so...
* The ''[[Sailor Moon]]'' dub creates an interesting [[Inverted Trope|inversion]] with Haruka and Michiru/Amara and Michelle. The romantic subtext is ''meant'' to be there... but they're not supposed to be cousins in the original. The company that decide to make them cousins did so for the exact reason of preventing there being any openly gay people in the show, without actually changing enough other stuff to even try and hide how they feel for each other, just hoping no one would think it's odd for two cousins to be THAT devoted to each other. Cause, you know, having a clear subtext of an incestuous, gay, relationship is so much better then just an open gay one without the incest.
* Many in ''[[Code Geass]]''
** Mind you, there is so much of this subtext that the series [[Brother-Sister Incest/Code Geass|has its own page]] on [[Brother-Sister Incest]].
* As the title suggests, ''[[Sister Princess]]'' is full of this, particularly with the older sisters to their brother: one actively flirts with him, one gets from him a hairpin that used to be another man's gift to his wife, and one {{spoiler|was his lover in a previous life}}. Oh, and all of them get to have a fake wedding with him. And that's just the start.
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* A good portion of ''[[Nisemonogatari]]'' has this.
* There's a reason Edward and Al are a very popular pairing for ''[[Fullmetal Alchemist]]''. It's even worse in the [[Fullmetal Alchemist (anime)|2003 anime]]. Ed has at least three love interests but none of them get anywhere on screen. He spends a majority of the series, and the film, focusing on Al. A major complaint for the movie is ''how'' focused Edward is on Alphonse.
* Episode 10 of [[Hidamari Sketch
* ''[[Ore no Imouto ga Konna ni Kawaii Wake ga Nai]]'' runs on this trope, as Kirino's obsession with "little-sister" themed [[H-Games]] seems to contradict her adversarial relationship with her older brother Kyousuke, and there are eventually many incidents that indicate that it's more and more a front to hide her true feelings. And in at least one controversial official ending for the storyline, it stops being subtext at all.
* Edward in ''[[Black Butler]]'' sees his sister Elizabeth as perfect in every way and even admits, apparently not realizing how abnormal he is being, that he doesn't really see others when she is present.
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== [[Fanfic]] ==
* In [[How I Became Yours: Rise of the Agni Army]], brother-and-sister Kuzon and Lilith share a room despite being in their late teens/early adulthood, their beds not five feet away from each other. And Kuzon's dialogue to Lilith regarding her bad dreams sounds closer to what a concerned ''boyfriend'' would say, not a big brother. And hell, there hasn't been much more
== Film ==
* The Prentiss family in ''[[The Manchurian Candidate
* ''[[High School Musical]]'': Sharpay and Ryan Evans have a disturbingly close relationship. Heck, their first duet is a love song according to Kelsi. The twins just [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhbqA6JMBec changed it around] a bit so it [[Your Mileage May Vary|didn't sound so romantic]]. When Troy and Gabriella sing it [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h14LFxYEWg8 correctly], it's clearly a love song.
** The only difference is a more upbeat tempo. Lyrics are the same.
** Additionally, a joke is made at one point saying that if Sharpay could play both Romeo and Juliet, her brother would be out of a job. Which is a nice joke until you realize that means that the twins have no problem playing romantic roles with each other. What makes the whole scenario stranger is that Ryan was very clearly written to be the group's token gay member. It's only implied, but implied quite strongly.
** Even worse if you take in the fact that "I Can't Keep My Eyes Off of You" (Never made it to the
*** The [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSBoARL2N3g video] even includes a few moments from the movie put in shippy context.
* ''[[House of Wax]]'' is filled with the [[
* Many ''[[Star Wars]]'' fans noticed Leia's later claim, that she had "always known" that Luke is her brother. Even when she was making out with him?
* At the end of ''[[Serenity]]'', River is shown watching curiously from an air vent as Kaylee and Simon have sex.
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** The incest subtext is particularly evident in the scene where Nuada learns of the attraction between Abe and Nuala; Nuada's reaction is more like that of a jealous lover than a brother defending his sister's honor.
* In the French-Canadian movie ''C.R.A.Z.Y.'', the tension between the main character Zac and his older brother Raymond can be interpreted as to being of a sexual nature, at least in part. It's strongly implied that Zac, well, takes pleasure out of seeing his brother having sex with different girls in multiple occasions. It gets even more interesting once it's clear that Zac is, indeed, gay. So who exactly was turning him on?
** Raymond also teases Zac by proposing to give him a blowjob, although that was probably supposed to be an attack to his sexuality rather than an in-university acknowledgment of the
* ''[[Ginger Snaps]]''. Specifically, when {{spoiler|Ginger}} is heading towards full transformation, she crawls over to and on top of her sister and whispers "It's like we're not even related anymore..."
* Two words... [[The Rocky Horror Picture Show|Elbow Sex!!!]]
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* ''[[The Boondock Saints]].'' That is all.
* [[Cruel Intentions]].
* ''[[Conan the Barbarian]]'' (2011). [[Daddy's Little Villain]] tells her father (who is seeking to resurrect his dead wife) that she can do everything her mother
** It's only subtext until he cradles her face in his hand and she [[G-Rated Sex|starts sucking on his thumb]]. At that point it becomes damn clear that she would be happy substituting for her mother in every possible way. [[Even Evil Has Standards|he winds up rejecting the offer.]]
* The 1992 French movie ''L'Amant'' (''[[The Lover]]'', adapted from the eponymous novel by Marguerite Duras). The female protagonist has a sexual vibe with her younger
* [[All That Jazz]] flaunts this trope so flagrantly. Joel Gideon is a ceaseless womaniser and his daughter is a blossomingly beautiful young lady. In more than one scene she deliberately makes him feel awkward by talking about sex. Better still is the scene where they dance together, specifically because it shows how comfortable they are with eachothers' bodies in a ''non-sexual'' capacity. The fact that the jailbait daughter is so unmistakably beautiful and sex is such a recurring theme in the film leaves you actively looking for the sexual subtext, but as they dance they talk exactly how you expect a father and daughter to talk. By placing the ideas of "family" "dancing" and "sexuality" in our minds the film highlights how un-confused the issues are in the minds of the characters. Dancing is not sex, dancing is dancing.
* In the beginning of the movie version of ''[[Chronicles of Narnia]]'', [[Voyage of the Dawn Treader|the third part]], there is this scene where Lucy sees a girl flirting with a boy, then she does the exact same gesture that girl did... in front of Edmund. This results in him frowning confused and asking her what she's doing, to which she widens her eyes and blurts 'nothing' guiltily, giving the impression that [[Accidental Innuendo|she actually tried to flirt with him]] for a moment. The explanation is given later.
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{{quote|The Princess [[Take My Hand|caught him with a hand, her weight halting his slide]]. Now Luke rolled clear, came to a panting stop on her chest.<br />
For a long moment they lay like that, suspended in time. Then their eyes met with a gaze that could have penetrated light-years. }}
** The comic book adaptation - which came out ''after'' ''[[Return of the Jedi]]'' - doesn't have nearly as much
** The idea that she'd "always known" throws this line into a new light.
{{quote|The Princess grew aware of how tightly she was clinging to him. Their proximity engendered a wash of confused emotion. It would be proper to disengage, to move away a little. Proper, [[But I Would Really Enjoy It|but not nearly so satisfying]].}}
* Brambleclaw and Hawkfrost of ''[[Warrior Cats]]'', who are half-brothers. Brambleclaw chose to trust Hawkfrost '''over''' Squirrelflight, his [[Love Interest]], and trusted Hawkfrost completely up until he tried to make him kill his leader. Even though it was hinted at that Hawkfrost was evil.
* Pick a Eugene O'Neill play, any Eugene O'Neill play. Odds are you're going to encounter a seriously dysfunctional family vibe, owing to O'Neill's own deep-seated mommy issues, and the fact that he was heavily influenced by Greek theatre, home of the original Oedipus and Electra. The
* While ''[[A Song of Ice and Fire]]'' has quite a lot of explicit and confirmed incest between certain characters, there are also certain points which fit this trope. One example is during one of Arianne Martell's POV chapters, she remembers that when she was younger (though we don't know exactly how young) she was travelling through the desert with her uncle Oberyn and her cousins, and she daydreamed about a desert bandit kidnapping her and having his way with her. Judging from the description of the bandit, she imagined him looking a lot like her uncle Oberyn. She feels very uncomfortable about remembering this, so she is clearly aware of what such a daydream implies.
** Aeron "Damphair" Greyjoy has a deep-seated hatred and terror of his brother Euron, and associates him with the scream of a rusted hinge, and memories of waking up in the night and thinking "Euron has come again". Though it is not stated explicitly, one can assume that he was sexually abused by his brother.
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** Teased with Asha and Theon, when he first arrives at Pyke. They go on a horseback ride together and there is a lot of fondling going on and she even grabs his erection a few times. This was done deliberately by Asha posing as a shipwright's wife named Esgred in order to find out his plans. When Theon finds out who she really is, Theon is incredibly disturbed.
** Though they are not related by blood, Littlefinger is {{spoiler|Sansa Stark's}} uncle through marriage, and it is very clear to her and the reader that he is sexually interested in her. Not only is he legally her uncle, but she is currently pretending to be his daughter, and addresses him as "father".
** When Tyrion is confronting his sister, Cersei, about her [[Twincest
*** Also, while he is {{spoiler|planning his revenge on his family from exile}} he mentions that he wants to rape and murder his sister. While he would be quite happy to kill her, it is unknown if he was being serious about raping her, and even if he was, it would probably be from a wish to hurt and degrade her as much as possible rather than from any true sexual desire.
*** Seems to be reciprocated, as when Cersei's paranoia gets ''really'' bad she's prone to nightmares which often feature Tyrion in disturbingly sexual situations.
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*** Also due to that revelation, {{spoiler|Morgana and Arthur's season one [[Ship Tease]] retroactively}} counts as this.
* In ''[[Shake It Up]]'' there's a line where Tinka tells her brother Gunther (who's her dance partner) they can't get married. He looks heartbroken.
* This is joked about several times in ''[[Supernatural]]''. In "The Monster at the End of This Book", Sam and Dean discover a series of novels detailing their exploits has accumulated a fandom, including in-universe Sam/Dean shippers. In the episode "The Real Ghostbusters", the two guys [[Cosplay
* All ''over'' ''[[The Borgias]]'', but well, there's [[Real Life Writes the Plot|a reason for that]]. There's [[Big Brother Attraction|Cesare/Lucrezia]], where Lucrezia claims she'll never love a husband the way she loves Cesare, and where Cesare promises to cut her husband's heart out with a dinner knife. There's [[Momma's Boy|Vannozza/Cesare]], who spend the most time together of the parents/children and whom Cesare brings to Lucrezia's wedding despite his father's wishes. There's [[Foe Yay|Cesare/Juan]], with Juan getting the life Cesare wants and Cesare reluctantly cleaning up his brother's mistakes. And there's [[Daddy's Girl|Rodrigo/Lucrezia]], with their cuddling and kissing and the way Lucrezia clearly has her father wrapped around her little finger. Besides, when your cast [http://image.wetpaint.com/image/1/ZJZTX-a1DaFAIen2QFNaAw480923 looks like this] (all but the lady in blue are related somehow), this trope's inevitable.
* In [[The Waltons]], there were a few instances when John-Boy (the eldest son and narrator) and his mother, Olivia seemed to share more than just parent-child closeness. One notable example is the birthday episode when he reads a poem to her, a love poem nonetheless. They interact more like a couple during that scene than a mother ans on.
* This is played for laughs quite a bit on ''[[Arrested Development (TV series)|Arrested Development]]''.
* Jimmy and Gillian Darmody on ''[[Boardwalk Empire]]'' are frequently mistaken for husband and wife or brother and sister. They're actually mother and son; Gillian was fourteen when she got pregnant with Jimmy. The subtext was never really "sub" - Gillian is introduced [[
* In ''[[Coronation Street]]'' Julie and Jason get drunk and spend a night on the couch together. When Julie's mother Paula finds out about this she is horrified...and drops the bombshell that Jason and Julie are actually related as Paula had sex with Jason's grandfather when she was fourteen and got pregnant with Julie. It's then quickly revealed that Jason and Julie didn't actually sleep together.
* In ''[[The New Adventures of Old Christine]]'', there's a ''lot'' of incestuous subtext between Christine and her brother Matthew. There was even a scene in which {{spoiler|Christine made out with him though it turned out to be a dream.}}
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* ''[[Chrono Trigger]]'' has Magus (Janus) obsessed with trying to save/avenge/find/ Schala. He would even blow up the world to do it.
* [[Umineko no Naku Koro ni|Ep. 5]] gives us this between Battler and Rosa: "Even though she was my aunt, she gave me a wink that would have made a man's heart jump."
* Liquid Snake and Solid Snake. Not so much in ''[[Metal Gear Solid]]'', although he's such an enormous [[Large Ham]] that most of his lines sound flirty, but in ''[[Metal Gear Solid]] 4'' there's [[Squick
* Alfred in ''[[Resident Evil Code Veronica]]'' has an unhealthy devotion to Alexia which sure seems like incestuous feelings. Alexia is aware of this and exploits them to her own ends.
** Well, that last part is only going by ''[[Resident Evil: The Darkside Chronicles|The Darkside Chronicles]]'', which may be [[Unreliable Narrator|a hazy, semi-canon depiction told secondhand by Leon]]. The original, however, definitely implies that it's not one-sided. Alexia gets ''mightily'' pissed when her first sight after waking up from cryostasis is that of her brother's corpse, [[Morality Chain|and it goes straight to hell from there]].
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* ''[[Silent Hill: Shattered Memories]]''. {{spoiler|Cheryl ''really'' loves her daddy.}} Even if there were no incestuous feelings, the appearance could not have been accidental.
* This is the impression many get upon playing through the story of ''[[Soul Series|Soulcalibur V]]''. Not only is Patroklos saddled with an [[Oedipus Complex]] for his {{spoiler|deceased}} mother Sophitia (to the point that {{spoiler|Elysium, the spirit of Soul Calibur, can manipulate him purely by [[A Form You Are Comfortable With|assuming his mother's form and beckoning to him]]}}), but his interactions with Pyrrha tend to carry an incestuous undercurrent as well. To be fair, Patroklos grew up raised by his father Rothion, who told him stories about his mother, spurring Patroklos [[So Proud of You|to follow in her path as a holy warrior]], whereas Pyrrha was stolen away from her family at a young age, but their affection, which ''should'' be a strong case of [[The Four Loves|storge]], goes on a crash collision with [[Relationship Writing Fumble]] and veers right into eros territory.
* Furiae toward Caim (one-sided) in the US version of ''[[Drakengard]]''
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** Plus, they can <s> [[GaoGaiGar|Symmetrical Dock]]</s> [[Combining Mecha|Combine]].
* Dee Dee and Dexter from ''[[Dexter's Laboratory]]'' invoke this trope once in a while, especially since Dee Dee seems to prefer Dexter over every guy that may be a possible [[Love Interest]], due to the fact that every time guys (particularly Mandark) flirt with her, she sticks to Dexter. One obvious scene is the one in which Dexter and Mandark compete to save Dee Dee and, after she is saved by both, she is disgusted by Mandark, but kisses Dexter on the cheek. In another episode, Dexter becomes an adult to seduce a girl he likes, but guess who ends up attracted to him instead? ''Dee Dee''.
* There is some of this with Sally and Dr. Finklestein in ''[[The Nightmare Before Christmas]]'' [[Alternative Character Interpretation|possibly]]. In the [[DVD Commentary]], [[Tim Burton]] refers to Sally as a
* This trope creeps into ''[[An American Tail]]'' in an eerily interesting and [[
** To add to it, mice have no issue with incest. Speaking as someone who has bred them, they actually seem more inclined to mate with members of their litter than they are with non-relatives.
* In one episode of [[Blinky Bill]], Shifty gets a little affectionate with his big sister Daisy, licking her like a puppy-dog in the Wedding Picnic episode.
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== Real Life ==
* Affection between [[Angelina Jolie]] and her brother James Haven (including some rather fond words and a kiss at the Y2K [[Academy Award
* ''[[The Veronicas]]'' play up the [[Girl-On-Girl Is Hot|lesbian]] [[Twincest]] in a similar way ''[[t.A.T.u.]]'' did. Even when they aren't doing it on purpose though, it tends to be there.
* [http://gawker.com/#!5727738/how-close-is-too-close-between-mother-and-son/gallery/1 Pictures] of model Stephanie Seymour's trip to the beach with her son Peter prompted some interesting rumors. However, both have denied these rumors. In fact, Peter is [http://www.salon.com/life/feature/2011/01/11/stephanie_seymour_kissing_son openly gay].
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