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** Ackbar playing a large role in the first arc of season four.
** The clones having enough of {{spoiler|Krell}}'s crap and {{spoiler|killing him}}.
*** Since he was {{spoiler|[[Evil All Along]]}}, this can be the moment where Jedi and Traviss' Mando fans can cheer together in unison.
* [[Ascended Meme]]: Most likely why Ackbar's character got fleshed out more, in an attempt to give him some characterization beyond [[Memetic Mutation|"IT'S A TRAP!"]].
* [[Awesome Music]]: Plenty of it. It is Star Wars after all.
* [[Bellisario's Maxim]]: The season one episode "Trespass", which occurred on an [[Single Biome Planet|ice-world]], featured a scene with a group of native Talz huddled around a fire. According to the special features, the writers and producers have been bombarded with questions asking what the Talz were burning, more-so from people involved with the production than even rabid fans, and they can not give an adequate explanation. They quote the maxim almost verbatim, and explain that this is something that people really should not think about.
* [[Broken Base]]: This show (especially [[Early Installment Weirdness|the first season]] and the movie) has been very divisive among ''Star Wars'' fans who like the [[Star Wars Expanded Universe|Expanded Universe]], and those who just like everything ''[[Star Wars]]''.
* [[Complete Monster]]:
** Darth Sidious, naturally, who was planning on performing ''possibly lethal surgery'' on said infants, while in a red-tinted laboratory that even the most mad [[Mad Scientist]] would be afraid to work in, over a ''lava lake'' on the planet which is basically the ''[[Star Wars]]'' version of ''hellHell''.
** Cad Bane. He has no problem with [[Moral Event Horizon|kidnapping]] [[Would Hurt a Child|infant children]], [[Cold-Blooded Torture|electrocuting]] someone to death, and threatening to throw Ahsoka out of the airlock if Anakin didn't unlock the holocron.
** {{spoiler|Pong Krell}}. This needs some elaboration. {{spoiler|When introduced, he seemed to be the standard [[General Ripper]], just following orders no matter what the casualties. This is unexpected from a Jedi, but there have been some like that in the past (like how the [[Knights of the Old Republic II|Jedi Exile]] and other Jedi were in Mandalorian Wars, or in the last Sith War a thousand years prior). Then he orders the death of Jesse and Fives, as well as a court martial for disobeying orders after they saved the day by doing so. ''Then'' he truly crosses the [[Moral Event Horizon]]-he plays two armies of Clone Troopers against each other by saying that there were infiltrators, having them kill each other. And shortly after that, he confesses that he's been ''trying'' to lose as many clones as possible because his plan was to sabotage the Republic war effort from within in order to ingratiate himself to Count Dooku and become the Sith Lord's next apprentice.}}
*** Not to mention at the end of his first appearance, he pulls an [[I Lied]] and tries to murder the Senators he just completed a prisoner exchange for.
*** InKeeper particularAgruss the Zygerrian is a slaver, let'swhich revisitis bad in itself, but goes above and beyond the guycall doingof thatduty laston itemthat. HeIn particular, he has no problem casually murdering dozens of slaves if it means breaking a Jedi, tortures and kills other slaves for Obi-Wan's defiance, not only making his help unproductive but actually alienating those he seeks to protect. This might have been the queen's plan, though, so we can't blame him fully. He truly earns his credentials at the end. The Republic has arrived and it's quite clear he's lost. What does he do? Set the system to dump the slaves into the abyss, smashes the panel to prevent Obi-Wan from saving them (Ahsoka manages to get them to safety), then gloats about how Obi-Wan can't retaliate because he's a Jedi. His death at Rex's hands was ''very'' deserved. Even the queen had a redeeming moment at the end. This guy was just straight-up ''evil.''
** Darth Sidious, naturally, who was planning on performing ''possibly lethal surgery'' on said infants, while in a red-tinted laboratory that even the most mad [[Mad Scientist]] would be afraid to work in, over a ''lava lake'' on the planet which is basically the ''[[Star Wars]]'' version of ''hell''.
** Dr. Nuvo Vindi is the [[Monster of the Week]] for the season 1 two-parter " Blue Shadow Virus" and "Mystery of a Thousand Moons", and the [[Mad Scientist]] who recreated the titular virus, a disease that kills all who contract it and which no lifeform is immune to, after it had been wiped from the galaxy. Vindi not only brought the virus back, he converted it to an airborne strain so it could spread more easily. Vindi's ultimate plan is to send a virus-laden bomb to each key Republic star system, creating a galaxy-wide plague that could kill entire planetary populations. When his operation iss put at risk by the Republic, Vindi just decides to prematurely activate the bombs while they're still on world, with the intention of killing everyone on Naboo, himself included. Though hired by the Separatists to perform these actions, it's clear that Vindi takes great joy in his work, and sees unleashing the revived virus as passing judgement on the galaxy that once "murdered" it.
** In "Defenders Of Peace", Lok Durd wants to test his "Defoliator" -- which is supposed to kill organic life and plant life while leaving machines unharmed -- on the innocent Lurmen, who have gone out of their way to stay out of the conflict and done absolutely nothing to provoke him. What's more, he does not just want to test the weapon on one or two Lurmen the way he tested it earlier on two of his droids, but on the ''entire village''. On the way there he muses out loud that [[Moral Event Horizon|once he demonstrates how good his weapon is at killing civilians, he is sure to get that promotion he's been wanting]]!
** Wat Tambor, Foreman of the Techno Union and former Emir of Ryloth, is a vile force even among the Separatist Council. Using his position as Emir to oppress and starve the Twi'lek populace of Ryloth while having resistance fighters massacred even after forcing them into surrender, Tambor responds to the Republic's attempts to liberate the planet by using Twi'lek people as living shields to dissuade them from attacks. Tambor eventually gives up on the planet, ordering Twi'lek villages full of women and children wiped out and trying to firebomb the entire planet to wipe out it and its populace to spite the Republic, attempting to make off with its riches to further salt the wound. As Foreman of the Techno Union, Tambor leads horrendous experiments against sentient creatures on Skako Minor, using fallen Clone Echo as a living computer and forcing him to experience the last moments before his "death" for months on end and trying to use his organic decimator to slaughter Anakin and the Bad Batch when they try and free him — testing its effects on a Poletec subject before them and cruelly dismissing it and Echo as mere Techno Union property. Vile, smug, and cowardly,
** {{spoiler|Pong Krell}}. This needs some elaboration. {{spoiler|When introduced, he seemed to be the standard [[General Ripper]], just following orders no matter what the casualties. This is unexpected from a Jedi, but there have been some like that in the past (like how the [[Knights of the Old Republic II|Jedi Exile]] and other Jedi were in Mandalorian Wars, or in the last Sith War a thousand years prior). Then he orders the death of Jesse and Fives, as well as a court martial for disobeying orders after they saved the day by doing so. ''Then'' he truly crosses the [[Moral Event Horizon]]-he plays two armies of Clone Troopers against each other by saying that there were infiltrators, having them kill each other. And shortly after that, he confesses that he's been ''trying'' to lose as many clones as possible because his plan was to sabotage the Republic war effort from within in order to ingratiate himself to Count Dooku and become the Sith Lord's next apprentice.}}
** Though it may be a bad precedent to pin this on an entire species, the Zygerrians are a [[Planet of Hats|species of slavers]]. It seems to be the foundation of their entire civilization. Even among their rank and file, they seem to get off on [[Kick the Dog|kicking the dog]] just to prove a point, and have no problem casually murdering dozens of slaves if it means breaking a Jedi.
*** In particular, let's revisit the guy doing that last item. He tortures and kills other slaves for Obi-Wan's defiance, not only making his help unproductive but actually alienating those he seeks to protect. This might have been the queen's plan, though, so we can't blame him fully. He truly earns his credentials at the end. The Republic has arrived and it's quite clear he's lost. What does he do? Set the system to dump the slaves into the abyss, smashes the panel to prevent Obi-Wan from saving them (Ahsoka manages to get them to safety), then gloats about how Obi-Wan can't retaliate because he's a Jedi. His death at Rex's hands was ''very'' deserved. Even the queen had a redeeming moment at the end. This guy was just straight-up evil.
** Death Watch commander Pre Viszla. In his first appearance, you could be forgiven for just considering him a [[Well-Intentioned Extremist]]. After Dooku betrayed him for failing, however, he gets monumentally worse. He lands on a random planet and enslaves the women from a local village as servants, uses unarmed but clearly sentient droids as targets for his troops (the droids ''beg'', for heaven's sake), and destroys the entire village and has its population killed when the village leader demands they return his people and leave. He also intended to execute Ahsoka without a fair fight, a marked difference from his duel with Obi-Wan in his first appearance.
** {{spoiler|Darth Maul, who has become an insane, vengeance-driven monster, utterly obsessed with destroying Obi-Wan. He mercilessly slaughters a village full of innocent people, including several [[Would Hurt a Child|young children]] just to get the Jedi's attention, brutally tortures Obi-Wan as a prelude to the slow and agonizing death he has in mind, and viciously throws his murder of Qui-Gon in Obi-Wan's face, just to piss him off.}}
*** {{spoiler|He was raised by Palpatine since ''infancy.'' Do you honestly expect him to let Maul have mercy?}}
** The Trandoshan hunters from the Season 3 finale.
* [[Critical Backlash]]: Not so much the series, but the movie was universally panned by critics and many long time ''Star Wars'' fans, even though it wasn't that bad for a pilot arc.
* [[Crowning Music of Awesome]]:
** The music during the latter parts of the "Brain Invaders" episode was particularly memorable with chanting when Ahsoka fights a brainwashed Bariss Offee in the halls of the ship.
** The tune to which the Republic marches onto the bridge in "Weapons Factory" was surprisingly epic as well.
* [[Die for Our Ship]]: Amidala gets this from Anakin/Ahsoka shippers.
* [[Ensemble Darkhorse]]:
** Cad Bane became one of the most popular characters in the series, as an [[Expy]] of Boba Fett with a cool voice, unusually sinister tendencies, and characteristics of spaghetti-western villains.
** Hondo Ohnaka is starting to become one of these.
** The mercenary Embo from "Bounty Hunters" was a [[One-Scene Wonder]] with acrobatics to make a Jedi jealous, a [[Nice Hat]] that serves as a blaster-proof shield ''and'' as a [[Precision-Guided Boomerang]]. Despite being a relatively minor character in one of the less important episodes of the series, he's popular enough that he got his own action figure.
** Savage Opress is quite popular too. The fact that he's {{spoiler|Darth Maul's brother}} help.
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* [[Fan Dumb]]: In the tail end of the second season, Boba Fett shows up to wreak his vengeance on the Jedi with a team of bounty hunters. Still young at 12, his appearance continues the establishment of his presence in the prequel era begun in ''Attack of the Clones''. On theforce.net boards, his thread was filled with fierce flaming and heated back-and-forth exchange over the first image of him in the show, just released on the net. Several PAGES of posts were devoted to the fact that ''[[Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking|he was wearing a green shirt]]'', and how this was so very terrible since he had been wearing a blue one in ''Attack of the Clones'' a full year earlier in canon. It turned out he was not even wearing a green shirt anyway, it was a poncho over a gray jumpsuit.
* [[Fan Nickname]]: A few show up. Savage Oppress is Randy, Anakin is Mannequin.
** Ahsoka is Orangebutt.
* [[Fan-Preferred Couple]]: Ahsoka/Rex (or [[Portmanteau Couple Name|Rexsoka]], if you wish) remains the most popular Ahsoka pairing, even though she has a canon love interest in the form of Lux Bonteri. This is probably because Lux is comparatively new on the scene, and Rexsoka was already well-established in the fandom before his episode premiered in Season 3. Karen Traviss and Karen Miller's [[Ship Tease|teases towards Rexsoka]] in the novels did ''not'' help things.
** [[Mentor Ship|Anakin and Ahsoka is a very popular couple within the fandom, as well Obi-Wan and Ahsoka]].
* [[Foe Yay]]: Asajj decides to strip off most of her outfit during her fight with Kenobi. [[All There in the Manual|Supplementary materials]] say that she gets pretty obsessed with Obi-Wan over the course of the war. His retort when she tries to distract him by throwing said clothes in his face? "You'll have to do better than that, my darling." They continue this "flirtation" several more times, but it seems Obi-Wan, at least, is being sarcastic.
* [[Growing the Beard]]: Despite complaints on various things, the biggest being the cartoony Battle Droid humor, the series has been very well received after the first season (and even a few first-season episodes are well-liked). The first episode to shuffle that humor aside, and coincidentally one of the more popular episodes, was "Rookies", which introduced the efficient Droid Commandos. Despite the droids eventually losing it was a step forward in maturity and threat level for the series. The later episode "The Hidden Enemy" is also cited for the same reasons, the droids are more intimidating when using zero-humor [[Zerg Rush|swarming tactics]].
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** {{spoiler|Dogma}} becomes one at the end of the Umbara arc.
* [[Launcher of a Thousand Ships]]: If it moves, it's likely Ahsoka has been paired with it.
* [[Magnificent Bastard]]: Palpatine's maneuverings during episodes like 'Destroy Malevolence' where he sends Padme on a diplomatic mission {{spoiler|that [[Xanatos Speed Chess|just so happens]] to lead her right into General Grievous's hands}}; 'Heroes on Both Sides' where he discovers that Mina Bonteri is responsible for sponsoring the Separatist bill to end the war and her subsequent fate, etc. seem to show that the guy can play the odds and adapt like only a [[Magnificent Bastard]] could.
* [[Mis BlamedMisblamed]]:
** An inordinate amount of people seem to think that George Lucas is responsible for ''any problems'' with this series. Dave Filoni is the real frontman of the project. To be fair, whole episodes have been written on Lucas' orders, and Dave Filoni has also implied that the show would be rather different if Lucas had not unexpectedly become more involved later in its production.
** Likewise, some misblame Filoni or other writers for disregard of certain EU elements, when, by their account, Lucas exercised [[Executive Veto]] power.
* [[Memetic Mutation]]:
** Bo-Katan's "You're late."
** "Shut up, Dengar!"
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** Pre Vizsla crossed his by ordering the burning of a village that Death Watch had been terrorizing, simply because they demanded the return of the women he had kidnapped, particularly the chief's daughter. Not only did he burn down the village and kill countless villagers, he started the massacre by returning the chief's daughter, only to stab her in the back immediately afterwards.
** {{spoiler|Darth Maul murdering a village full of innocent people to get Obi-Wan's attention.}}
{{quote| {{spoiler|'''Darth Maul''': In a galaxy at war, Savage, the only way to draw the attention of the Jedi is with the slaughter of the innocent. Mercilessly, and without compromise.}}}}
* [[Narm]]: The [[Robo Speak]] [[Evil Laugh]].
** The [[Robo Speak]] [[Evil Laugh]].
* [[No Yay]]: Even Cad Bane had hints of this with Ahsoka, but the most obvious example would be the way Garnac, the leader of a Trandoshan hunting party acted towards her. If the whole kidnapping Jedi children to hunt them down thing wasn't clear enough, he provides lines like these:
{{quote| '''Garnac''' She (Ahsoka) can't hide for ever! Mark my words, I'll have her skin, and nail it to the wall {{spoiler|for killing my son!}}<br />
'''Garnac''' A valiant effort, little younglings. Especially you, Togruta. You'll be a prized trophy of my collection. }}
* [[Pandering to the Base]]: David Filoni acknowledged the negative reaction from the first half of the third season (which was focused on heavily on politics, trade blockades, bank interests, and stuff like that) and said that the amount of such episodes will be severely cut down.
* [[Portmanteau Couple Name]]: The ones that are unique to the fandom of this show are: Anisoka, Obisoka, Rexsoka, Luxsoka, Barrisoka... [[Launcher of a Thousand Ships|seeing the pattern here?]]
* [[Rescued Fromfrom the Scrappy Heap]]: Jar Jar Binks. Yeah, you read that correctly, no mistake - [they successfully rescued ''Jar Jar Binks'' from the scrappy heap in one episode.
** Also, Anakin. Originally a [[Base Breaker]] in the movies, he's far more unanimously liked in the series due to his stronger characterization, his decreased tendency for [[Wangst]], and Matt Lanter's voice acting being more well-received than Hayden Christensen's acting.
*** Ahsoka started out with similar levels of hatred to Jar Jar Binks (mostly for her [[Mary Sue]] and [[Spotlight-Stealing Squad]] tendencies), but her flaws have been toned down considerably, to the point that (in a bizarre inversion of sorts) some of the show's detractors actually label her as the ''only'' good character in the series.
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* [[Uncanny Valley]]: Though most of the characters look exaggerated enough to not really fall here, Riyo Chuchi in the "Trespass" episode, when she is looking head on into the camera and speaking, you kind of have to do a double take.
* [[Villain Decay]]: General Grievous in early episodes was losing ''every'' battle and running away before his ship or outpost is destroyed. Acknowledged [[In-Universe]] with "Lair of Grievous", where Dooku is unhappy with Grievous' decay and sets out to test him.
** ''Grievous Intrigue'' and later episodes, however, try to find a compromise of sorts; Grievous remains a nasty, menacing villain and a legitimate threat, but [[Dirty Coward|still runs when he feels that he's on the losing side]], and more of his menace comes from his being a [[The Chessmaster|Chessmaster]] rather than a full-on badss like in the 2003 series.
** He completely reverts any remaining [[Villain Decay]] in "Massacre".
* [[What an Idiot!]]:
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*** He did it again in season 4 and almost shares Boba Fett's fate (malfunctioning jetpack, anyone?). In his defense, though, he did go straight for the "undignified execution" route at first. His quarry just happened to get free.
* [[What Do You Mean It's for Kids?]]: From the very beginning, the series has thouroughly averted both [[Non-Lethal Warfare]] and [[Never Say "Die"]], and features some exceptionally brutal [[Family-Unfriendly Death|Family Unfriendly Deaths]], and some very dark, dramatic storylines, with subjects such as torture, slavery, and murder handled with aplomb.
* [[WTH?What the Hell, Casting Agency?]]: [[Simon Pegg]] being the voice of Dengar in the season 4 episode "Bounty". This is a man who's known for his hate for the prequel trilogy, special editions of the original trilogy, and ''The Clone Wars'' series itself, and he takes every opportunity he can to bash anything ''Star Wars'' post-1983, and the fact that he's getting ''rewarded'' for all his hate elicited this reaction from the die-hard Star Wars fans.
 
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