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^ He was asking for it.
* Remember that many incarnations of The Doctor sound like they come [[Aliens of London|from the north]], or even Scotland. And Dr. Rush...
** Not only is Rush a Time Lord, he has amnesia...or is very bad at being a Time Lord.
== The Message encoded into the background radiation pattern from the Big Bang is... ==
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* Uh...all this says is, he's got an ego. It's a trait of the Goa'uld, sure, but that's still a bit of a stretch.
** And SG personnel are probably screened on a regular basis for this sort of thing.
*** Until "Air (part 3)", it looked like Rush was behind the attack. His characterization in parts 1 and 2 made him come across as '''evil.''' Not as much now.
** Rush wanted to dial the 9th Chevron - this seems to have been one of his defining motivations for ''everything.'' As long as Icarus base was intact, he had an unlimited amount of time to do that. Once the attack happened, he nearly lost his chance. This makes it seem ''highly'' improbable that he was behind the attack: he would likely have lost his only opportunity to unlock the ninth chevron.
** Also, as pointed out in the Just Bugs Me page, Rush and the entire SGC were probably used to the last chevron being the point of origin. The idea that they could use a bogus chevron, something so fundamental about how the Gates work, may have simply never occurred to him or anyone else. Eli, as someone with fresh eyes, was not prone to this momentum of fact.
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The system was never widely used by the Ancients, perhaps for being a complicated and not appreciably useful technology.
* Alternatively, the system was widely used by ancients, but no one else knows it and so the more basic system took over. This might explain why earth has so many stargates, despite only one gate working at a given time. If you know the specific nine-digit address, you can always dial one specific gate, regardless of where it is or how many are on the planet.
== Every gate manufactured ''ever'' is assigned an nine-digit, base-36 code by the Stargate Network. ==
Base 36 because 36 is the lowest number of glyphs on a gate so far.
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== The ''Destiny'''s address changes periodically. ==
First, they got the address out of a ''computer'' database; this means that the address could have been updated as the ship moved from location to location. This update could have been performed by an algorithm in the database calculating the ship's location or by the ''Destiny'' regularly relaying its position back over some sort of link.
Second, at the ranges involved, there aren't enough nine-chevron addresses to have each correspond to a single seven-chevron address. This means that, if the nine-chevron address does represent a region of space, then it would have to be a ''large'' region of space - a significant portion of a large galaxy, if not the whole galaxy or even multiple galaxies. It is thus quite possible that the Destiny could explore for a long time (years, centuries, or even millennia, depending on how fast it is) without changing the nine-chevron address needed to access it from the Milky Way.
As for using Earth's Point of Origin instead of the planet that they were on -- one possibility is that the Point of Origin is not just the Earth's, but also the Milky Way's, which is what matters at the distances involved.
** Another thought might be that to dial Destiny which is (mostly) a constantly moving target in a mostly unpredictable way, the gate network basically syncs up as a gestalt to find where it is similar to GPS satellites. You would have the Milky Way and the Pegasus galaxies acting as two giant points in space. These then would locate Destiny's bread crumb trail (acting as a third roughly estimated point in space) of activated gates and use that to call Destiny and let it know it stop for an incoming connection.
== Dr. Rush will devolve into a [[Knight Templar]]. ==
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== The 'bugs' are actually proto-replicators. ==
Well, they certainly replicate as fast as them, and the original idea had to come from somewhere.
* Except for the fact that we already know exactly where the replicators come from. A [[Ridiculously Human Robot|scared, lonely robot girl]] who [[Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds|wiped out all life on her home planet]].
** Except that they're also in Pegasus. There's no reason for them ''not'' to be in Stargate: Universe too.
*** Those were different Replicators invented by the Ancients. There's no one out here (that we know of) to create yet another version of the bugs.
== The 'bugs' are the reason why the desert planet has no water. ==
They're not native to it, and we've already seen they replicate with water. They drained the planet.
* In that case, if there's any justice, they fell victim to the parasite from "Time".
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== Sharon's "ugly" chair is a [[Chekhov's Gun]]. ==
Is it ''really'' just a coincidence that chairs popped up in "Life", now the chair on destiny may in fact be a repository if Rush is to be trusted but what if Sharon's chair is actually an ancient device that possibly requires the use of the one on Destiny, something like the communication stones? Either it might explain why Sharon's still keeps it as it has an influential hold on her and why Wray doesn't like as she subconciously knows something is wrong with it.
* [[Jossed]] in the latest episode, ''Sabotage''. Camille specifically notes that Sharon got rid of the chair.
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== Rush is autistic. ==
And his current obsession is Destiny. Note if you will he's got issues with being touched, and when Young offered his hand to shake in Power, Rush just looked at it as if trying to work out what exactly he's meant to do with it. He has a lot of trouble interacting with people. All of which are common in people who are Autistic.
* Its much more like Asperger's Syndrome or something else on the Autism Spectrum. If it were Autism, he would be much more disabled and would likely never be directly involved in the Stargate program.
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== Rush wins. ==
Dr. Rush will fix the broken ship, catch up to Destiny, disable it remotely and take it over. Reason? ''He is just that good.''
* It's a given that Rush will somehow get back to Destiny - there'd be little reason to show him at the end of Justice otherwise. That said, I could see several possibilities beyond that. He might become a sort of recurring villain backed by aliens. He might bring the ship and rejoin Destiny but essentially form his own crew on the ship.
* Rush teams up with the aliens who built the not!Ancient ship and gets his revenge on Destiny.
* Or the guy who sat in the chair will learn something useful about controlling the ship's navigation, and the crew of the ship (considering only two know the truth about Rush) will turn it around to pick him up.
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**** The Ori seemed pretty content with their setup. The only reason they went after the Milky Way was because A) they'd had the Ancient's location rubbed in their faces and B) it was full of (potential) converts to Origin. Between the Ancients' code that prevented interference and the power source represented by the natives, it surely seemed a slam dunk to the Ori.
***** Where is it ever said Adria had to catch a ride? From the look of things, she was running the show for a while before [[SG-1]] showed up to get rid of her.
****** Doesn't she say it? It's been a while since I've watched Continuum, so I might not be recalling it. I thought that the whole 'long distance' thing was also one of the underlying facts of being an Ancient. Hence why the Ori themselves couldn't easily arrive in either the Milky way or, more specifically, Pegasus, as implied by Chaya.
****** As memory serves, Adria was on the vessel that delivered the Sangraal. It went off, killed the Ori, and left not-quite-ascended Adria alone. She then ascended and took the mantle of the Ori, including their genocidal plans for the Ancients.
******* Yes, Adria was on the ship with the Sangraal, but then she came back to the Milky Way, and ascended while on-board the Oddessy. The next time we see her is in Ark of Truth in the Ori Galaxy.
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== Either Destiny is nowhere near as old as Rush thinks, or the natives to whatever Galaxy they're in are horrible intrastellar warfare. ==
Seriously, a million year old ship that's older than all the ancient super-technology is apparently a match for a modern attack ship? What's more, even the shuttle is capable of taking out more fighters than you'd shoot down in your average [[Star Fox (series)|Star
Then again, the aliens didn't use Hyperspace, so...
* Remember what Rush says at the end of the episode: They weren't trying to destroy Destiny at all, so they weren't fighting all out. Also, have a look at the alien ship during the fight. Notice how ''Destiny's attacks never get through the shield''. The alien ship got out of the confrontation without a scratch, while Destiny was considerably damaged.
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** Valid point, but still, Earth is able to take on Asuran ships, and those are improved ancients, and win.
*** Which is not at all relevant to this situation. Earth massively cheated as far as technological progress is concerned, and the only reason they weren't utterly dominated by Asuran ships is because of the Asgard uber-tech they got. These aliens (probably) have had no such help, and may simply be at a point in their development where Destiny, regardless of age, is still superior to them.
* To me, the most likely answer is that the aliens are at a slightly lower tech level to the Ancients from the time period when ''Destiny'' was launched. At full power, ''Destiny'' could have beaten them outright.
* It may also be that the aliens don't unilaterally have the same level of technology as Destiny. They may be worse in some areas, better in others. Destiny may, even if of equal 'technological level', have information that would prove valuable or may have information that they could get but haven't yet due to time such as galactic maps.
== Rush is playing Camille at the end of "Space". ==
During the bit at the end of the episode, {{spoiler|Rush never explicitly said that he wanted to take over the ship, or even that he was for Camille taking over the ship. Something tells me he is not fully invested in either option, and that he's okay with Young in charge, especially after mellowing in a test tube for god knows how long with aliens picking your brains for secrets.}}
* Semi-[[Jossed]]. He was playing her, but not for that reason.
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== The guy trying to get people to stay on the planet in Faith is an alien. ==
I certainly don't recall seeing him before (Although apparently he was around). Still, he seemed awfully determined to get people to stay.
* He was the guy who discovered the downed fighter in "Justice". Was in communication room in "Space". Vanessa James' love interest.
== The planet in Faith is a trap! ==
It's a Honey Pot Trap. It's why there's no life. It's designed to be a paradise in a pretty inhospitable galaxy and to encourage people to come to it. Then, when they've settled in, the Obelisk turns on and the radiation kills them. It's why there are no animals.
== Ginn is going to be involved in an Ascension themed plot as a callback to Julie [[Mc Niven]]'s role as Anna Milton on ''[[Supernatural (TV series)|Supernatural]]'' ==
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Created by the ancients they where simple genectic creations. A slave laborforce. While testing their ship tech they would use them as guinea pigs launching them across deepest space. Not caring if they died. They survived, evolved and using old Atlantis tech to survive and reach the stars. They remember and fear their old 'Masters' and view the Destiny as their only chance to remain free.
* That doesn't seem consistent with what we know of the Ancients; ''Destiny'' was launched from the Milky Way, which means it's from after the schism with the Ori.
* They could have been a simple organic type artificial lifeform that evolved to be sentient. Let's face it the Ancients while brilliant did some questionable things. Created replicators in the Pegusus galaxy, created a weapon to defeat the Ori but decided not to leaving billions to be killed and or enslaved by the Ori.
== ''Destiny'' is a refitted [[Warhammer 40000|Necron (or Necrontyr)]] ship. ==
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== [[First Girl Wins]] will apply to SGU. ==
* Chloe will end up with Eli.
* Lt. James with LT. Scott.
* TJ with Young.
** Wouldn't apply to TJ and Young as Young cheated on his wife with TJ making his wife the first girl, not TJ.
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This seemed obvious after watching the latest episode with the Lucian Alliance working on getting to Destiny along with the conversations between Telford and Young. Young was practically taunting him about how it was supposed to be his reward and Young is in command on the ship and not Telford.
* Corallary: Telford will get aboard, but it will not last, or at the very least he won't get command. Given the situation Rush-in-Telford's-body is in right now, Telford is not going to have the option to overtly join the military should the Lucian Alliance manage to board the ship. Unless he can help defeat them without getting himself killed, it'll be a short trip.
** As of the S2 premiere, Telford, surprisingly enough, survives the invasion of the ship and lives through the takeback. What this will mean is yet to be seen though one wonders if Telford will get upgraded, casting wise, or hung on to so he can be killed later. Given how the show seems to like to keep favorite secondary characters and even upgrade them (Beckmen, Brody, James to name but three), perhaps he may yet survive.
*** Seems likely that he'll be upgraded as a way to help integrate the Lucian Alliance, since they're the only real source of new blood.
== Franklin is starting to take over the ship ==
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== The Lucian Alliance has significantly stronger ties to Earth than the SGC realizes. ==
Where else would they get Earth weapons? For a group of thugs that are picking up where the System Lords left off they seem to have an awful lot of standard projectile weapons rather than Goa'uld Energy Weapons.
* They had guns prior to this episode. It's not that big a surprise. Plus, they have Telford to provide them with links to arms dealers.
** Yeah, but the SGC doesn't seem to be aware of those potential links.
*** Not casually, but it really doesn't take them that much effort to track such things down. Telford could find something if he was determined.
* Plenty of worlds in the Milky Way have developed firearms independently (Langara, for example). After seeing that Tau'ri firearms were superior to Goa'uld energy weapons, the LA went to those worlds, contacted the local arms manufacturers, and started making bulk orders.
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== ''Destiny'''s purpose is tied to Ascension. ==
And both the IOA and Lucian Alliance want it in order to control mankind's next stage of development. Joseph Mallozzi has repeatedly noted that the ''Destiny'' has some secret purpose that will be explored in the next season. Moreover, Kiva's interest in the ''Destiny'' seems to be less about the ship's technology than about its mission. Finally, there have been several references to Ascension over the course of the series.
* Perhaps the Chair is actually an Ascension machine, and that's where Franklin went?
** That's what I think also. Especially when you consider that previous stargate series have portrayed ascension as technologically achievable, but with the disadvantage of potential brain frying. This is why the room went super cold first, to cool Franklin's brain during the process. I also think that the aliens that may or may not be on the "Faith" planet depending on your opinion are aliens from this end of the universe that have ascended, possibly the blue ones. They could be benevolent, but just misunderstood, as they haven't hurt anyone up till now, they just want to study us for whatever reason, possibly to learn more about ascension.
* Semi-[[Jossed]]. It remains to be seen. {{spoiler|In an interview, Carlyle spoils that Destiny is tracking some sort of signal that exists in the background radiation from the big bang. In other words, it's looking for something beyond even the Ancients themselves.}}
** Of course, that signal could be somehow connected to Ascension. And the Ancients just managed to figure it out themselves without going to the source
*** Or the Ancients went to the source via the Destiny and that's how they learned to Ascend. Given that Ascension is a spiritual process and they're a technologically focused race (And most of the ones we meet show no signs of being at all interested in the necessary steps to ascend spiritually), even the idea of a spiritual ascension has to have come from somewhere.
== Chloe's ability to understand alien language is a [[Chekhov's Skill]] ==
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Based on all that evidence, I think that there will be some form of control gained over Destiny, a much better supply of food will be obtained, and the crew will spend more time discovering things about where they are now, since they aren't in a threat of dying every five minutes. This way, it will simply be a [[Darker and Edgier]] Stargate show, instead of [[Base Breaker]] incarnate.
** Seems likely. As well, the friendly (or at least, non-[[Ax Crazy]]) Lucian people (Varro and his men and perhaps their scientists) provide outside information and such that SGC may not have. They also provide a constant B-story threat.
** According to the Twitters of most of the Atlantis cast, they did ''a lot'' of shooting for this season and many of the SG-1 people were there too. It might just be cameos ala last season for O'neill, but the implication is that they're playing a pretty big role in at least a few episodes.
== Destiny will eventually turn against the crew. ==
Destiny's AI is programmed to do whatever is necessary to keep the ship active and continue its mission of following the seeder ships to new galaxies. This is illustrated by its ability to self-ration its power, alter its course, and defend itself from outside threats. The program doesn't currently view the crew as a threat to the mission so it has no problem letting them tag along for the ride. However once Rush starts to gain real control over the propulsion and navigation systems the ship will actively start to resist the crew efforts to gain control, as its mission will then be in jeopardy.
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== Chloe is a Goa'uld. ==
Fast healing after being off screen following contact with former Goa'uld servants who still have some snakes working in them? Slight changes in behavior? Sounds like it to me!
* The Lucian Alliance doesn't have any Jaffa in it and it is unlikely they would allow a Goa'uld to live very long if they noticed, which isn't very difficult once you know the signs.
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* Ancients: Where some Ancients came onboard as planned, and never ascended.
* Rush: From a time line where the altercation between Young and Rush in "Justice" ended with Young being left on the planet. The question is...would it be Rush vs. Rush or Rushx2 vs. everybody else.
** It'd be Rush x2 versus everyone else, of course. And of course, while the two Rushes would be working together, they'd be actively working against each other as well.
* Well, one of the episodes in S2 is titled "Twin Destinies"...
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As a result of all the head and mental trauma he's sustained.
First in Darkness he temporarily lost his mind and collapsed as a result of nicotine and caffeine withdrawal.
After that Rush framed Young for murder, during their little scuffle toward the end of the episode Rush was knocked unconscious. He was then kidnapped by the catfish aliens and had his mind probed, most likely more than once.
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The combination of both the mental trauma and the head trauma has begun to take it's toll on Rush evident by the fact his dead wife is speaking to him in the second episode of season 2.
Now Rush is dealing with the stress of keeping the fact he can control Destiny a secret as well as living with the fact that his decision to stop at the planet with the buried Stargate cost a man his life.
Before the season is over Rush will have a meltdown and Rush seems to be currently aware of the fact that he is losing his mind.
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** Which is my solution. I then buy the season dvds when they come out.
** Comcast may try to save syfy from want NBC is doing to it or the 30 day delay is part of comcasts planes to lock up content just like what they do with CSN Philly.
** Well, several counter points. Most agencies that track 'stuff' (sales, TV ratings) do not yet have systems in place for online material. What this means is that tracking viewership is much more difficult with online material. And, at least for Hulu, advertisement time is much lower (Hulu usually has 3 to 6 breaks of one 30 second - 1 minute commerical each or 1 2-minute commerical; compare to television where there's 8 minutes of commericals in the average 30 minute show). In turn, this means that advertisers are less willing to pay higher prices for online advertisements/networks can't charge as much; for the most part, they still make much of their money off television ads. Thus the delay onto the Internet is to maintain that money off advertisements. Also, not everyone owns a television such as this troper and even if this troper did have a television, would not want to spend 30 bucks a month to watch less than a handful of channels and/or shows. And since this troper wants to support the show (because ultimately if a show doesn't bring in the viewers, the network will cancel it no matter how good it may be), venues like Hulu are the best option to show some level of support.
* Guess what wasn't renewed for a 3rd season.
== There is an ascended Ancient, possibly Oma Desalla hanging around Destiny watching over the crew. ==
This explains a number of the stranger signs of ''Destiny'' being aware of the needs of the crew before they are. This is also why TJ had that vision of going to the ''Faith'' planet and leaving her baby there with those who stayed behind. In some kind of attempt to help Rush fix the ship, as well as trying to keep him from going completely insane, it is appearing to Rush when he's alone to act as a kind of advisor, carefully prodding him in the right direction. This is also why Franklin disappeared.
== Rush has a brain tumor. ==
Likely in the frontal lobe area which is affecting his impulse control and judgment. The brain tumor may also be giving him chronic headaches but he's to stubborn to see a doctor and thus has no knowledge of his condition.
Or he knows he has a brain tumor and hides it so he can work unhindered, wanting to learn as much as he can before time runs out.
== Rush is Darkseid, or at least an agent of him. ==
A mysterious ordered signal in the background of the universe? A feverish quest to find it and thereby control the world around him? Sound's like the Anti-life equation to me.
== The ascended being hanging around the Destiny is not an Ancient. ==
Or if it is, it's an evil one. It's only helping because it needs the crew to find the message in the background of the Universe. What's more, Rush is wrong. The ancients did discover what it was, and it lead to the Ancient/Ori split.
== Eli will turn into Rush 2.0. ==
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== [[Joss Whedon]] has secretly joined the writing staff of [[Stargate Universe]]. ==
Well, he isn't writing the scripts, but he's contributing ideas. Come on, Eli and Ginn's relationship lasted exactly as long as [[Angel|Wesley and Fred]]. Tell me that isn't Joss at work!
* I buy it. We've had way more major deaths in SG:U seasons one and two than we have in SG-1 and Atlantis combined if you don't count Daniel Jackson.
* And he brought his typical low ratings with him.
* If Joss wrote SGU, Chloe would be played by Summer Glau, be an expert martial artist and walk around barefoot.
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== The tech allowing ''Destiny'' to hack into dreams exists in the gates, and is responsible for the [[Aliens Speaking English]] we've seen in SG-1 and SGA. ==
Think about it. For all we know, a fully functional gate might be able to access the travellers' subconscious and immediately translate everything without them even noticing. It didn't work for Goa'ulds because those are TWO lifeforms fused together and the system wasn't designed for this. Also, it didn't work in the movie because the gate had been buried for a long time and wasn't connected to a proper DHD, which didn't allow it to work normally. Not very likely, but I'd love the writers to try and find an elegant solution to this problem in SG:U. What about an episode with the system breaking down, and communication between Earth and Lucian Alliance members becoming impossible? and, of course, some additional effects for added drama. I even have a title for the episode: "Babel".
Ok,let me dream a little^^
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== Eli will turn into the SGU version of [[Deep Space Nine|Sisko]]. ==
He'll end up in the Captain's Chair, and turn from [[Big Fun]] into a dark moody [[Badass]] with a touch of [[Wangst]]. Maybe he'll even [[Grow the Beard]].
* He ''has'' a liking for that chair (because it has access to most systems, but still...). Also in an interview Blue hinted that Eli will have a lot of character development and will become a lot more active during this season. And since he is pretty much the only character respected (at least minimally) by Rush and trusted by both Young and Wray, I wouldn't be surprised. Maybe Destiny will choose him? I could imagine an episode when Destiny locks everyone out of control - except Eli. Though being turned into [[Crystal Dragon Jesus|CDJ]] wouldn't help the character.
== Ginn's and Amanda's consciousnesses are stuck in the waves of subspace. ==
To quote Mallozzi (badly): "Do you think you know what happened to Ginn? Think again, because this is sci-fi!". Now we think she is pretty much dead, she isn't in Amanda's body (because that's not how the stones work and SGU won't violate the canon) so the only explanation left is that their disembodied consciousnesses are stuck somewhere outside our spacetime. Maybe they will return later via the "Daniel Jackson Ascend-Descend Routine" [[
* This is, more or less, accurate.
== The drones are Replicators. ==
Because they're going to be in everything, and you know it.
== The SGU team are the least competent people ever. ==
SGU: OH MAN THESE DRONES ARE KICKING ARE ASS, WHAT DO WE DO?!
Telford: Why aren't you flying into the sun you can survive but nothing else we've ever encountered can?
SGU: Why didn't we think of that?!
Seriously, they could beat almsot any number of drones by kiting them back and forth through the star. Plus they have longer range than the Drones. Just go back and forth in various stars and snipe some every time you come out. Behold, no more drones. Sure, it might take forever, but it's a cheesy way to win without a huge amount of work. As a gamer Eli really should've though of this.
** Probably because most gamer tactics (or conventions for the matter) don't actually work when applied in the real world (or fictional versions there of).
*** But we know for a fact that Eli is a gamer, and that the secret to the Icarus project was hidden inside of a game. Clearly they have at least some concept of gamer tactics and "Hide in the Large firey object that destroys things that don't have our super shields" should not be much of a stretch.
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They consist of a host body and intelligent bacteria forming a hive mind. The bacterium is actually the alien, they reproduce by infecting another life form and taking control of it. That's what they did to Chloe. The transformation is usually faster, but they were unfamiliar with human physiology so that's why it takes so long.
* Then why hasn't Rush shown any signs of transforming? Are they just unable to reproduce in lifeforms with Y chromosomes?
** That would explain why it didn't infect Scott in ''Cloverdale''.
*** Does this mean all the blueberry aliens are female? Or would it mean they have different chromosomes all together like... S and R chromosomes.
**** Completely different chromosomes are the more probable theory. They are several galaxies away where the Ancients haven't treaded yet, so their evolution is completely different from MW and Pegasus evolution. They probably haven't figured out how to spread to male humans yet.
* Alternately they're an all male species with the exception of the "Queen" who normally would reproduce a new queen before dying, however she died before birthing a new queen and the blueberry aliens are kidnapping other species that are potentially compatible and injecting both sexes with an enzyme that will turn the "female" into their new "Queen". They inject both sexes with this enzyme cause they don't know which is the female of whatever species they used.
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== Ginn and Perry will become additionnal Avatars on Destiny ==
It only makes sense to bring them back this way - Franklin died in mysterious circumstances, yet Destiny was able to somehow assimilate him, or at least his appearance, and use it to communicate with Rush on the Bridge. I can imagine Ginn, at the very least, appeaing to Eli - good way to bring in some drama... Of course, thank you [[Syfy]] , because now we won't see any of it...
* Well, looks like we'll be seeing it after all.
** Guess what just happened in "Hope"...
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== The Destiny has already succeeded in its mission. ==
The ancients already unraveled the secret, that's why Destiny is in such bad shape and why there's no data on it.
* Except there is data on it, thousands and thousands of pages in fact, plus a nearly complete signal.
** No Data as in "Well, we went and looked and here's what we found." From that episode I understood it to be mostly background "lets go look at this thing" information, rather than "We went and investigate and found X/Gave up because of Y."
== The message encoded into the background radiation of the universe is the secret to Ascension. ==
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== The message encoded into the background radiation of the universe is the result of a [[Stable Time Loop]]. ==
The message is either put there by the crew of the Destiny at the end of their journey. Alternatively, the message ultimately contains the secret of Ascension, and was put there by an ascended ancient so that the ancients could find the message in the first place.
== The people from the alternate Destiny in "Twin Destinies" aren't really dead. ==
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== The SGC has no ability for subterfuge. ==
Alright, so, the Lucian Aliance/Langaran plotline in Seizure. It's pretty impressive, for the SGC. I mean, switch places using the Stones? But, no one seems to have considered ''having some sort of fallback option.'' Is it really that hard to break out a Voice Changer and pretend you've been taken over by a Goa'uld?
* Well, the whole thing smelled of something out of the NID's playbook. And we know how smart they were. [/Sarcasm]
* Even if it were plausible at first, this fallback option would still have left them outgunned and taken captive (or shot if they didn't stand down), at which point that subterfuge would fall apart too.
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== ''Destiny'''s mission is not a quest to find the meaning of life, the universe and everything... ==
''Destiny'''s mission is an ''experiment'' to find the meaning of life, the universe and everything. ''Destiny'' was left for someone smart enough to figure out the ninth chevron to find. Once aboard, the ship traps them, forces them to jump through hoops ("this Stargate's active and we need X supply, guess we better go through"), gets inside their heads and generally manipulates them all. Rush's "pattern" is a [[MacGuffin]] for those who are more science/goal-oriented. It's all a grand social experiment set up by the Ancients in which ''Destiny'' is both the laboratory and the scientist.
* This is totally in character for a lot of the Ancients we meet, too.
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== The Langaran Stargate going to be a Chekhov's Gun before the series was canceled. ==
The producers were going to have Earth's negotiations with Langara bear fruit before the full three years of the Destiny's current trip around the outside of the drone-filled galaxy was complete and dial Destiny with another solution, or at least a way to get to the next galaxy more quickly. And a supply line, as well. Think about it- there's no way that was intended to be a one-off plot point. It was going to come up again in the third season (and, I'm pretty sure, probably right at the beginning of the third season, too). But sadly, there will be no third season...
* Alternatively, it was set up to be an [[Author's Saving Throw]] to change the nature of the show in season 3. Three Years is more than enough time to work a treaty with the Langarans and deal with the Lucian Alliance. Come season 3, and a supply line, and we're set for radically changing the tone.
** You're probly right about the treaty with the Langarans. However, it's entirely possible that the Lucian Alliance thing wouldn't be solved in that time. if anything, it might've gotten worse in the intervening time...
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We're told that the Stargate on Destiny is the first one (Really need a citation for this). If the first Stargate is on Destiny it can be inferred that the Stargate was invented as a way of reaching Destiny. We've seen that the Alterans who split had plans for a Stargate (Arc of Truth) and thus assuming my previous conclusion is correct, we can assume that the Alterans and the Ori were aware of the structure in the cosmic background radiation at the time of the split.
The fact that Destiny launched from the Milky Way (Air) shows that the project was only started after they arrived their new home. If they knew about it before they left, but only investigated it after they arrived it stands to reason that it was only shortly before the split happened that the structure was discovered. Admittedly we know little of pre-split Ancient society but given the reaction that we have seen the Tauri have to this discovery including calling it "a message from God" and Rush vehemently disagreeing with this point the conclusion can be drawn that this perhaps is what caused the split. Discovery of the structure, that there was an intelligence present at the time of the Big Bang, I could certainly see that causing the tension in our current society between the more fundamentalist religious people and scientists to come to a head, we've already seen that these are the lines that the Alteran/Ori split occurred on and for all the mysticism built up in the early seasons the Ancients were very much like us and so perhaps can be expected to react in the same way. Only instead of ending in the civil war I can imagine our society responding to such a discovery with, the Alterans just up and left.
* Destiny's gate is most definitely NOT the first one (the seed ships were launched before Destiny). Otherwise, it makes sense.
** It *could* be if one were to assume that Destiny's gate was the original Earth gate that was transferred to the ship for the mission and replaced with the newly-built Antarctica model. This is just another WMG though.
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