Strawman Has a Point: Difference between revisions

I don't think this qualifies as strawman has a point ,when its actually more "The Boy Who Cried Wolf".
(I don't think this qualifies as strawman has a point ,when its actually more "The Boy Who Cried Wolf".)
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** In "Prime Factors" the crew discover an alien race with the technology to cut 40,000 light years from their journey. They have a strict policy of not trading technology with outsiders, which Janeway decides to obey. When a few crewmen do the trade behind her back and attempt to understand the technology, it proves to be completely incapable with their systems and nearly destroys their ship. They were treated as being wrong for going behind Janeway's back, but if it worked they would be home the next day.
* ''[[Star Trek: The Next Generation]]'':
** In the episode "Q Who", Q appears on the Enterprise, offering himself as a possible crew member. Picard refuses on the basis that they (the Enterprise crew) doesn't trust Q, despite the cosmically powered entity stating that the Federation was simply unready for what they were about to encounter and that they ''needed'' someone like Q in order to deal with the threat. During their encounter with the Borg, Q continually tells the crew of the Enterprise that they cannot reason with the Borg, they cannot threaten the Borg, and that the Enterprise is ''absolutely'' not up to the task of fighting the Borg cube. No one, at any time, listens to Q, despite ''Q being absolutely correct in all regards''... because, after all, he's Q and thus is not to be trusted.
** Back when the Federation forcibly relocating a people was considered a ''bad'' thing, Picard had to relocate some people descended from Native Americans from a planet that was about to become Cardassian property. The problem for the aesop was that they were trying to do this for the colonists' own protection... and not in some thinly-veiled excuse, as the episode tried to imply by historical comparison, but because the Cardassians were brutal to the inhabitants of planets they occupy. Leaving the colonists on the planet would basically be selling Federation citizens into slavery or leaving them all to be killed, which would not only be bad in itself but also possibly shatter the fragile peace the border redraw had been done to maintain. In this case, historical bad taste or no, the relocation (forced or not) was in fact ''for their own good''. The Federation citizens in question opted to join the Cardassians so they wouldn't have to relocate, but had acknowledged the dangers involved.
*** Events in [[DS 9]] would support the Federation case, as colonists who remained in Cardassian space '''were''' brutally oppressed by the Cardassians, causing them to form the Maquis resistance. Eventually, when the Cardassians allied with the Dominion, the colonists would be massacred by the Jem'Hadar.
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* In the unaired 2011 ''[[Wonder Woman]]'' pilot, Diana has dinner with a Senator who expresses concerns about the way she does things - namely, using [[Cold-Blooded Torture]] to get information from criminals, giving the metaphorical finger to [[Reasonable Authority Figure|Reasonable Authority Figures]], and outright committing slander by holding a press conference to accuse Liz Hurley's character of being a murderous [[Corrupt Corporate Executive]] and '''admitting''' that she doesn't have any proof besides gut instinct. In fact, the only reason she's meeting the Senator is to get justification so she can go after Hurley. Of course, since Wondy-[[In Name Only]] is the [[Designated Hero|hero]] of this story, she's ultimately presented as right.
** It's really difficult to say. Though everything consistently turns up roses for "Wonder Woman" in most of her endeavors, the end of the episode shows her alone and fairly miserable. It's difficult to say whether the characters she opposes were meant to be the strawmen, or if the protagonist ''herself'' was being made into a strawman, who presumably would have been "redeemed" as the series went on.
 
 
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