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Ross isn't right even in the most technical sense -- owning someone's living body is slavery, which is illegal. Furthermore, as he originally obtained Banner's consent by fraud, he doesn't actually have any consent.
(Ross isn't right even in the most technical sense -- owning someone's living body is slavery, which is illegal. Furthermore, as he originally obtained Banner's consent by fraud, he doesn't actually have any consent.)
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* In the film version of ''[[Sgt Bilko]]'', the villain is a military higher-up who wants to run Bilko out of the Army for essentially running a team of [[Neighborhood Friendly Gangsters]] out of an American military base, and also for getting him blamed for a crime Bilko committed and getting the villain transferred to Alaska. Since this is actually a completely reasonable thing to do from any objective viewpoint, the villain is made to accomplish his goals through methods even more criminal and underhanded than Bilko's, in order to make sure he doesn't get the audience's sympathy.
* In ''[[South Park Bigger Longer and Uncut]]'', Sheila Broflowski ''initially'' has something of a point, which is actually illustrated in the early scenes of the movie. Just as she argues later, despite ''Terrence and Phillip: Asses of Fire'' being rated R, children still find ways to see it, and it actually ''does'' turn into a bad influence on them, [[Up to Eleven]] with Kenny, who [[They Killed Kenny|accidentally kills himself]] imitating the movie (though it's a scene where a character kills himself setting a fart on fire). It's only once she becomes a [[Knight Templar]] and prompts other [[Moral Guardians]] to ban it (and, you know, [[Disproportionate Retribution|start a war with Canada]]) instead of admit any responsibility over their children's actions, that she becomes a villain.
* In ''[[The Incredible Hulk (film)|The Incredible Hulk]]'', General Ross is wrong because he's obsessed with weaponing the [[Hulk Out]] for an army of [[Super Soldier|Super Soldiers]]. At one point, he says "As far as I'm concerned, that man's whole body is property of the US government". In a way, he's ''right'': Banner tested the procedure on himself, and that automatically made him the government's responsibility, since the experiment was [[Backed by the Pentagon]] to begin with. Ideally, the solution would be to give Banner a place to relax and be humanely treated while they work on a cure/synthesize it. However, Banner is determined to prevent the Hulk from being weaponized, so he stays on the run until he finds a cure. Of course, Ross could have saved himself a lot of trouble if he hadn't lied to Banner about the project's purpose(radiation treatments instead of Super Soldiers) so he could recruit a ''known'' [[Technological Pacifist]] for such a project in the first place... except that he seems to believe that [[Rousseau Was Right|most scientists ARE Technological Pacifists]] in the [[Marvel Cinematic Universe]].
{{quote|'''Ross''': He's a SCIENTIST. [[With Us or Against Us|He is NOT one of us.]]}}
* In ''[[Easy Money]]'', Rodney Dangerfield's wicked [[Evil Matriarch|mother-in-law]] uses a substantial inheritance to basically blackmail Dangerfield into giving up the things he enjoys most -- smoking, drinking excessively, gambling (it is shown early on that he can't control his urge to go too far and blow his winnings) and doing drugs (which he hides in the bathroom he shares with his twelve year old daughter), and losing excess weight.... and probably adds healthy years to his life by doing it.... she is made out to be all bad by the way she mistreats the staff at the department store she owns -- but when Dangerfield shows up there with his friend, they both are mocking and abusive to all the staff they deal with.
* In the made-for-TV movie ''[[Zenon]]: The [[Incredibly Lame Pun|Zequel]]'', General Hammond (not [[Stargate SG-1|that one]]) arrives to decommission the station, which was still suffering the after-effects of the sabotage in the previous film. His actions are seen by the main characters as evil. Here's what he really does: decommission an unstable space station before it falls to Earth, doing untold damage, attempt to apprehend a girl who thinks it's ok to smuggle aboard a shuttle, chase after spaceship thieves, and other actions perfectly in line with what any good soldier or policeman would do.
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