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* [[Internet Backdraft]]: ''Super Mario Odyssey'' was still universally praised within the gaming community, but its closing cinematic caused quite a stir after Bowser started shoving a bouquet of piranha plants in Princess Peach's face before Mario could get the chance to {{spoiler|pop the question, until Peach rejects them ''both'' after Mario grabs his own flower from the ground in a fit of desperation and joins in the fray with Bowser}}. Considering that Mario is [[Audience Surrogate|an avatar into his gaming world with whom it is easy for the players to imprint themselves on]] and that [[Most Gamers Are Male]], a faction of them feelfelt sorry for him and ignoreignored the fact that {{spoiler|piling pressure on Peach and jamming presents in her face, forcing her to choose on the spot between one or the other and [[Standard Hero Reward|expecting to get the positive response like she is a prize to be won]],}} instead makes Mario out to be an [[Man Child|immature]] [[Dogged Nice Guy]] and that this cutscene [[What the Hell, Hero?|''explicitly callspunishes him out onfor it'']] after Peach tells{{spoiler|is himabout thatto leave the moon on the she's'Odyssey'' hadand enough[[The Gadfly|calls out to Mario just before it leaves, causing him to have to scramble and jump on]]}}. There is also a good helping of the [[Ron the Death Eater]] trope to go around, since some have accused Peach of being an [[Ungrateful Bastard|Ungrateful Bitch]] for {{spoiler|rejecting Mario in such a cold and heartless manner despite overcomingthe numerousfavor obstacleshe todid rescuefor her from forced marriage}} and feelfelt like she owed him something in return}}, although other groups of people do point out that the most we ever see of their relationship is [[Smooch of Victory|a thankful peck on the cheek]] [[Super Mario 64|or on the nose]] even though most people assume there are romantic connections there (most of the [[Ship Tease|moments]] suggesting that their relationship ''could'' be romantic end up being a case of [[Flip-Flop of God]]). Since this topic concerns gender politics in video games, things can get really ugly, really fast.

** Princess Peach also gets this sometimes;, as some people havefelt takenlike theshe oppositewas stancebeing regarding[[Ungrateful Bastard|ungrateful]] in ''Super Mario Odyssey's''s ending and accuse her of being [[Ungrateful Bastard|ungrateful]], [[Entitled to Have You|feeling that Mario deserved something]] [[Standard Hero Reward|for what he'd gone through]]. Some even completely misconstrued the scene of Peach boarding the Odyssey as her deliberately leaving Mario and Bowser behind on the moon, even though she shouted to them, "Let's go home" as the ship was taking off.