Survivor (TV series)/YMMV: Difference between revisions

** "Idoled" is when a contestant is eliminated only because another player who has the same or higher total of votes against them uses the Hidden Immunity Idol to save themselves from elimination. So far, this has happened in ''Fiji, Micronesia, Samoa'' and ''Heroes vs. Villains''.

** "Loser Lodge" is a popular term for the Ponderosa, the nearby complex at which Jury members are sequestered before the final Tribal Council.

** Here's a few other popular(or once popular) fan nicknames for alliances featured on the show:

*** "Boran Boys Club" (Lex, Big Tom, and Ethan during ''Africa'')

*** ''The Onions'' (Marcus, Charlie, Corinne, Jacquie, and Bob during ''Gabon'')

*** "The Ometepe five/six" (Andrea, Natalie, Grant, Phillip, Ashley, Rob when it's six.)

** "CG-I", to refer to a player with an [[Out of Focus]] edit and seems almost digitally inserted into the show halfway through the season.

* [[Foe Yay]]: Some contestants can be a little-too-obsessed with a fellow castaway they claim they don't like.

** Clarence Black from the ''Africa'' season. After being ostracized by his tribe for most of the game because he ate a can of beans from said tribe's food rations while the others were away searching for a water source , he later on shapes up, works hard at camp and in the challenges, and eventually earns back their respect.

* [[Rewatch Bonus]]: There's actually ''quite a lot'' - the "Funny 115" site actually points out how easy it is to miss these, but if you rewatch a season, you can spot a lot of [[Foreshadowing]].

* [[Ruined FOREVER]]: In tandem with [[They Changed It, Now It Sucks]], the many changes the show has made over the years has incurred the wrath of some of the shows [[Fan Dumb]]. Here's a partial list:

** Replacing the Final 2 format with the Final 3 in the majority of recent seasons.

* [[Unfortunate Implications]]: On ''Cook Islands'', the original tribes were segregated according to race. ''Cook Islands'' was a response to the criticism that the ethnicity of Survivor contestants became racially homogeneous overtime. Jeff Probst even admitted that when ''Entertainment Weekly'' brought up how "the cast has never been whiter" when describing the ''Guatemala'' contestants, that tipped the producers off. The producers also promised to balance the ethnic variety with its cast in future seasons. In ''Cook Islands'' itself, the ethnic segregation hardly affected the game in any fashion, given how the tribes mixed up so quickly. The more noticeable [[Unfortunate Implications]] came from two things. One, the Survivor producers more or less recanted their promise to make the game more racially balanced (stating the difficulty of doing that, compared to the ease of finding a mostly white cast and some token minorities), and two, during the ''Cook Islands'' and especially ''Fiji'' seasons, some fans complained about the lack of white contestants when their numbers dwindled with deadpan seriousness, obviously not seeing the irony of their complaints.

** Some people have said some...unfortunate things. [[Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment|Best not repeat them]]. They often get called out on this in the jury, sometimes.

** And from the same season, Joel Klug. He was voted out of Pagong mainly because he thought this whole "alliance" thing might be a good idea to advance himself and his friends further in the game, and was promptly voted out for being ''arrogant'' to even bring up the idea and not just going with the flow and voting out whoever you feel like. Many viewers today may feel sorry for him for ending up on a tribe like Pagong, and wonder how he would fare on a season with modern players.

** Stephen Fishbach from ''Tocantins''. Post show, he's been very active in explaining his side of the story, and despite not winning, many praised his strategies (a few of the jurors even admitted that they'd have switched their votes if they'd known that he was as strong of a strategist as he was). J.T.'s blunder in ''Heroes vs. Villains'' certainly helped with this, too.

* [[What Measure Is a Non-Badass?]]: Any winner who most fans deemed as "undeserving" solely for not being both physically and/or strategically dominating and aggressive compared to their [[The Runner Up Takes It All|runners-up]]. Notable cases are Tina Wesson from ''Australia'', Amber Brkich from ''All-Stars'', Natalie White from ''Samoa'', and Sophie Clarke from ''South Pacific''.

** Sophie is an interesting case of this because she was both a strategic and a physically capable player. She was just more quiet about it.

** Or any runner-up. There were some people who thought Sugar deserved second because she played more of a strategic game than Susie; who merely did as she was told but won immunity when she needed it.

** Some people who defend the "Undeserving" winners point out that there is in fact a ''third'' "O" in the slogan. "Outwit, Outplay, '''Outlast'''." A lot of people forget about that last bit - this is a game of Survival at all. If you're in the finals, you certainly did ''something'' right.

** It's also most likely not a coincidence that almost all the players listed above [[Double Standard|are female]]. There ''have'' been male winners who get "undeserving/not strategic enough/just got lucky" accusations, like Bob from ''Gabon'' and Jud/Fabio from ''Nicaragua'', but the criticism they receive is still noticeably less vicious than for the "undeserving" female winners.

** Many fans were also skeptical on casting previous winners in [[Reunion Show|reunion seasons]] because they already won the title and the million bucks.

* [[The Woobie]]: Some contestants can be this at times, especially when they're in the minority or the victims of mean-spirited players. Sometimes, people actually ''are'' pretty woobie-ish, especially people who are having mental breakdowns or are being physically evacuated. A lot of people wanted to just reach through the screen and hug some of the players who were evacuated.

=== The band ===

* [[Darker and Edgier]]: The 1988 release Too Hot To Sleep, which had a distinctly hard sound, following the much [[Lighter and Softer]] Vital Signs (1984) and When Seconds Count (1986).

* [[Nobody Loves the Bassist]]: On multiple counts. You can search for images of any band member, and still struggle to find pictures of the bassist- even the longest running bassist in the band. And they have had more changes in that position than any other.